This society is only getting worse and worse

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  1. I'm a christian so this is my point of view
    Matthew 24:37-39 King James Version (KJV)
    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    Now how was it in the "Days of Noah?"
    Genesis 6:5
    And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    It's not going to get better things will be ridiculously crazy as the years go by just look at how far away from morality and common sense is diminishing from our planet. It's insane the number of things people want normalized. This is
    only the half of it.
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  2. I feel the need to say something here. This is not the only interpretation of eschatology.
    There are passages within the gospels that suggest the return of Christ was a past event and the Book of Revelations isn't necessarily about the future but the past.

    Matthew 10:21-23
    Brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death, and you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

    You can't know that how things will actually be in the future (neither do I btw). But the fact is Jesus said some things in the gospels that pretty much wreck any futurist interpretation of eschatology and many scholars who have studied the Book of Revelation in its original language say the number of the beast comes to Nero and the book is written for those living under Roman rule. I'm agnostic about the whole thing because no one actually knows the future but there are holes in a futurist interpretation of the end times. I think it's likely all prophecies in the Bible have already come to pass and pretty much all of them took place in AD 70.

    The subject of paedophilia is brought up. The fact is it was very common in the Roman world.
    Here's what Tim Challies writes about this issue:

    The pursuit of beauty and the obsession with the masculine ideal led to the widespread practice of pederasty—a sexual relationship between an adult man and an adolescent boy. This had been a common feature of the Greek world and was adapted by the Romans who saw it as a natural expression of male privilege and domination. A Roman man would direct his sexual attention toward a slave boy or, at times, even a freeborn child, and would continue to do so until the boy reached puberty. These relationships were seen as an acceptable and even idealized form of love, the kind of love that expressed itself in poem, story, and song.

    In the Roman world “a man’s wife was often seen as beneath him and less than him, but a sexual relationship with another male, boy or man, represented a higher form of intellectual love and engagement. It was a man joining with that which was his equal and who could therefore share experiences and ideas with him in a way he could not with a woman.” Pederasty—pedophilia—was understood to be good and acceptable.

    You could actually say it was worse back then because there were no laws against it.

    Things might seem like they're getting worse but if you take a good look through history you'll see things have always been this bad and maybe even worse. Sure we have technology and the internet but as Werner Herzog said, "When we speak of the horrors of the internet, it’s not the internet we are talking about – it’s humans. And human nature manifests itself in a way we have never seen before, because it’s anonymous and it’s on a massive scale. But it is not like nature, that is not it at all. It is human beings using the tool of the internet". Human beings have always been capable of great evil, it's not new.

    And as I said NoFap didn't exist 10 years so it's not all bad. There many good things happening and bad things happening.
    It is my opinion many of these end-time preachers are just trying to scare people into buying their products. People don't think clearly when they're scared.
  3. You're agnostic so I don't expect you to believe me but I'm standing by this.
    Breaking down the book of revelation which has yet to occur to prove that these events have not happened.

    I am sure the early fathers had read Revelation 17:11, where it is predicted that the beast that “was, and is not,” along with Isaiah 24:18, which states, “he who comes up from the midst of the pit,” to apply the prophecies to Nero. This is an incorrect interpretation of Scripture and tradition.

    Hebrew Gematria-
    There are two main languages in which the letters of the alphabet can be interchanged with numbers: Greek and Hebrew. The Greek language contains twenty-four basic letters, and
    the Hebrew language has twenty-two main letters. Hebrew uses only consonants and no vowels. The dots and marks underneath or above certain letters determine the vowel pronunciation.
    Revelation 13:18 states, “Count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man”
    Now how could the beast mark every human?
    With the large computers, computer chips, hand scanners, and eye scanners, there is now nowhere to hide.
    Such technology was not present in AD 70.
    However, looking back at the text in Revelation, there are three ways given by which a person can buy or sell:
    • The mark of the beast • The name of the beast • The number of the beast.
    Another interesting insight about the mark of the beast emerges when examining one of the oldest Greek manuscripts. In most of today’s translations of the Holy Scriptures, the number 666 is spelled out using “six hundred, threescore and six.” However, in some of the oldest manuscripts of the New Testament, the 666 is actually identified by three Greek letters.
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    letter chi? It is interesting to note that the Saudi Arabian civil ensign is in the form of two swords that cross one another, laid out over a green background. Saudi Arabia is the most important nation on Earth in relation to the Islamic religion.
    It is quite interesting to observe the form of the second Greek letter used in Revelation 13:18, the Greek letter xi. Former Muslims have noted that the Greek letter xi was very similar in appearance to the Arabic letter that forms the name Allah, the name for God used worldwide among all Muslims. The name Allah is the Arabic name for God and is the name all Muslims use when speaking of God.
    All Muslims will tell you that this name Allah is the name of the same God worshipped by both Jews.
    previously: Scholars note that the name Allah was actually not a name formed by Muhammad but was the name of a pre-Islamic moon deity that was worshipped in pre-Islamic times among the Arabs throughout the Arabian Peninsula.
    It is clear that the beast empire rules in and around the Mediterranean Sea, which is a stronghold for the Islamic faith. If these three letters are symbols, as some former Muslims suggest, then:
    1. The letter chi could allude to a symbol of two swords used in Saudi Arabia, the headquarters of the Islamic religion. 2. The letter xi could refer to the name of the god that will be worshipped during the time of the Tribulation.
    3. The mysterious letter stigma could refer to the mark that will be used on the right hand and forehead.

    Throughout the Bible numbers have had special meanings.
    It is unique how the number six is linked to the Islamic religion. • Muhammad was forced to flee from Mecca to Medina in the year 622 (the Hijra). • Muslims worship on the sixth day of the week (Friday). • Muhammad’s name can total to 666.
    During his forty-two-month rule the beast and his kings will control all global economics and influence world political decisions. Those who differ or oppose these policies will be beheaded (Rev. 20:4). I am certain the Antichrist will take this passage from the Quran as his inspired reason for beheading the “infidels.” “I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: you smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” . . . It is not you who slew them; it was Allah. —SURAH 8:12, 17 Those who will submit to his plans, purposes, and policies will be permitted to buy and sell using the “mark of the beast” (Rev. 13:17). Those rejecting the mark will be killed. The peace initiated by the Antichrist will bring survival to his followers and death to his
    enemies (Rev. 20:4). According to Islamic tradition, the Mahdi will institute Islamic justice through peace. But his justice will be exacted by the sword of Islam. Anyone who rejects the Quran or Muhammad as the prophet and refuses to follow their strict, twisted concepts will be killed. Again, this accurately fits the description given by biblical prophets about the coming beast and his kingdom!

    The Bible clearly teaches that a new temple — which will be called The Third Temple — will be built in the future. The First Temple was the one that Solomon built and which was destroyed in 586 BC. The Second Temple (516 BC to 70 AD) was built after the Jews returned from Babylonian captivity. The platform on which it sat was greatly expanded and beautified by King Herod, as was the temple itself, but since the sacrifices were never stopped during this renovation and expansion, the new temple was still considered to be The Second Temple.

    The Third Temple will exist during the Great Tribulation. Daniel refers to this temple when he says that “the prince who is to come” (the Antichrist) will enter it and stop the sacrifices in the middle of the Tribulation (Daniel 9:27). The Apostle Paul mentions it when he declares that the “man of lawlessness” will profane the temple by entering it and declaring himself to be God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4). The Third Temple is also mentioned in the book of Revelation when John is told to measure it — a symbolic way of telling him to assess its spiritual condition (Revelation 11:1-2).

    This raises the question as to precisely when the temple will be rebuilt. The Bible does not reveal the answer to this question. All it says for certain is that the temple will be in existence when the Antichrist reveals himself (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4), and that will be in the middle of the Tribulation (Daniel 9:27). Since this will be only three and a half years into the Tribulation, many have concluded that the temple will likely be rebuilt before the Tribulation begins, because how could such a magnificent building be constructed in such a short period of time?
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  4. I'm not agnostic, I'm agnostic about eschatology meaning I think you might be right but you might be wrong. I think no one can know what will happen in the future and we shouldn't pretend we actually know. At the end of the day, it's just guesswork.

    All I will say is I've read through the whole gospel of Matthew, took note of Jesus said about the end times and it seems to me some of the things he says go against a futuristic interpretation. I would encourage if anyone is interested in this to read the gospels and take note of what Jesus actually said on the subject of the end of the age and his return and then make up your own mind. By all means, listen to what people are saying but don't think of peoples opinions and interpretations as facts.

    Here's a good video on the subject:

  5. truthseeker17

    truthseeker17 Fapstronaut

    ahh man .. I am a muslim btw .. and this is ridiculous lol..

    We have no symbols in Islam. the swords used as Saudi Arabian civil ensign is a cultural thing and not something religious. It has nothing to do with "In the name of Allah" .. but good one lol you tried .. it's just not correct ..

    Listen bro .. we aint your enemies except if you want it. We both have the same enemy, the devil, Lucifer what you call him. We call him Iblees, shaytaan the cursed one. We also believe in the antichrist, we have more information about him then any other religion. You better study it for your own information. Please forget these numbers and 6's and all this weird math.. Focus on who the antichrist is when he will come and the signs before his comming.

    Just a little hint ... his comming is closer then we think. Most of minor signs are already witnessed.

  6. Of course you're not my enemy.
    Ephesians 6:12 New International Version (NIV)
    12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
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  7. Gotham Outlaw

    Gotham Outlaw Fapstronaut

    Idiocracy is the first time a comedy became reality.

    It's so fucked up that people support that. When I saw the south park episode with nambla I thought it had to be made up. I was wrong, a new a little bit disgusted.
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  8. FancyCoolDude

    FancyCoolDude Fapstronaut

    I know what you're talking about. But the fact is that sex sells. Companies are playing on our natural desires, and earning lotsa bucks off that. Porn industry expanded massively, affecting our daily media sources like TV, Youtube, Facebook, whatever comes to your mind. And by that, society thinks it's okay, because it's everywhere anyway, why question it? Perhaps it's a new way of controlling minds of people? Who the hell knows. But for sure, it is effective. It dehumanizes and weakens men. Government would benefit greatly of docile society.

    But yeah, I'm also disgusted by the massive sex advertising. I saw my classmates discussing pornstars or browsing daring photos on Instagram multiple times, and I felt nothing but sorry for them. They get excited to these fake pumped up breats and butts, they give in to fantasy.

    Guess this is the world we live in now.
  9. BlueDragonfly

    BlueDragonfly Fapstronaut

    I don’t believe that most kids can’t read an anolog clock.
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  10. Amen brother. Amen.
  11. andyandy7

    andyandy7 Fapstronaut

    Ageed. Our freedom is limited by other's freedom. yet, you have yours, so respect other's.
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  12. Ecco

    Ecco Fapstronaut

    All we can do is live right and be a positive influence for others.

    If the Apocalypse started right now, would you rape and pillage or would you defend and protect and help others to safety with you?

    Society is crumbling but has a long ways to go before all out chaos.

    Just take care of yourself and help those you can and leave a positive influence of some kind for those yet to come.
  13. andyandy7

    andyandy7 Fapstronaut

    Well that's quite an interesting material you got there. I'm Muslim myself, and my teaching told me those future events will occur actually, yet the way our religion told us about it, all I can say, there's no doubt we used to be the same religion, and those following events in the future, we just had a different point of view about how it'll happen.
    What im trying to say is, in the end of the day we believe what we choose to believe.

    Have a good day mate.
  14. Youssif

    Youssif Fapstronaut

    One word..... illuminati
  15. Gideonite

    Gideonite Fapstronaut

    I like your point of view as I have had the same thoughts lately. I discussed this with my younger brother and he was on and off from PMO for about a month and after I told him abput my struggles and many others he stopped immediately, so you should definitely talk to your brother about it, because the sooner he knows, the sooner he can stop.
  16. Buzz Lightyear

    Buzz Lightyear Fapstronaut

    The problem is that though we are individuals we are also social animals - there is such a thing as culture, and we are able to think about things in general terms. Because of this, it's only right that we look to influence the world in some way for the better...
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  17. EthanW.

    EthanW. Fapstronaut

    The "sex cult we call a society" that you refer to has another name: evolution. We are evolved to care about the sexual reproduction of ourselves and our lines of descent. You can be disgusted by it if you want, but it is human nature. You cannot tell people not to be sexual.

    He (She) falsely equalized a human being with a train. Human beings are not trains. Human beings can survive and express themselves in a city or in a jungle. That is the adaptive quality of our species. A train was created for the purpose of driving upon tracks to reach specified destinations; human beings a unspecified because we had to evolve.
  18. EthanW.

    EthanW. Fapstronaut

    ...But Allah is? His subjects and religious inspiration is the basis for the Tribulation and the figure of the Antichrist, no? Isn't that what the argument you presented implies, since Allah would be the principal authority and power influencing the ruling body of Islamic institutions?
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