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Tips for Edging?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by writer239, May 8, 2015.

  1. writer239

    writer239 Fapstronaut

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    So, looking back on all of my relapses, a lot of them stemmed from me starting to edge and not being able to stop. Now, I've been able to successfully make game plans for every other urge or possible trigger, but edging is the only thing that I can't seem to figure out how to avoid. My AP's are having the same issue actually, and I was wondering if anyone had any tips for avoiding or staying in control during edging?
     
  2. DannyCool

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    In my opinion edging is the key. I had to stop edging to go on a decent streak. There is no choice I never got away with it. I still don't edge and plan never to edge cause it is craving and suffering. I use to think the hope for happiness was happiness but now I know that all happiness is within or contentment. It is a bit like drinking salt water I never got fully satisfied and was always craving more.
     
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  3. DannyCool

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    Don't even start edging as it says on the home page you can consider edging as a reset.
     
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  4. DannyCool

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    This is an important factor surely finding a way to be content or knowing what contentment is otherwise the only happiness is craving.
     
  5. writer239

    writer239 Fapstronaut

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    I think this is exactly what I need - to stay focused and always remind myself of the reasons I'm doing this - and you're totally right. I'm working on being organized, content, and happy, but balanced isn't something I really took into consideration. Thank you for this.
     
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  6. IGY

    IGY Guest

    Actually, when you are edging, you are out of control. What I mean is, edging is masturbating - you just don't cum, that's all. In terms of the NoFap challenge, edging is the worst thing you can do. Instead of a 5 minute wank and shooting your load, you can go for half an hour or even hours getting close to orgasm but easing off and building up again. This just keeps triggering huge deposits of dopamine. Here is the science:- http://yourbrainonporn.com/what-if-i-use-porn-without-orgasm
     
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  7. ASmith90

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    @op don't edge

    I know it sounds like that stupid question how to never get addicted to smoking - don't smoke
    But it's kind of true. My dad always said "Resist the beginnings" (gtranslate) or "Nip it in the bud."
    This is kind of true for everything...

    if i have to do household stuff i keep my flat clean just by doing everything in the first place... well ok ^^ now it's kind of messy but normaly its almost clean.
     
  8. Edging = masturbating, keep that in mind.

    Yeah, while the orgasm releases the most dopamine levels, the rest of the stimulation is damn gonna release it as well and it will not help you at all with the addiction. Also, a couple minutes of jerking off and reaching orgasm is gonna release a lot of dopamine, but half an hour (or even hours if you're that crazy) of edging is gonna accumulate way higher levels of dopamine release.

    It's good that you're good with controlling other aspects of NoFap, but this is one of the most important ones next to porn itself. Once you start touching your junk in your bathroom and you don't let go, you're up for major failure unless you have loads of willpower left in the bank (which isn't logical since that would keep your hand off in the first place). Edging in my opinion is about as bad as a quick session of full-blown PMO.

    Keep yourself occupied and away from circumstances that lead to urges and make sure you have your hands AWAY from your junk. Once you get rid of edging, you'll find this much easier and you'll start building up a higher streak.
     
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  9. Kuaka

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    I'm going to throw a monkey wrench in the works. When I quit what I had termed "meditative masturbation" or "medibation", which would be a form of "edging", it did aid in my final breaking of the whole nasty habit. The monkey wrench is this...I had used MO since I was a child, and pMO often (little "p", not the extreme rapid feed of today's Internet stuff, but magazines and still photos). I was using it as pain management...both emotional and physical. Sometime in my 40's, my physical pain escalated. Mostly due to old injuries finally catching up...perhaps entirely due to it. That is when I capitalized the "p", since I was now "needing" pain relief a lot more. All of us here are well aware of where that goes. Desensitization had me escalating in frequency and extremity, and led me right into PIED.

    My breaking of the PMO habit was accomplished with four main components.

    1. Real pain management. My lingering chronic physical pain is pretty bad. I started a "real" pain management program which involves muscle relaxants, opiates, barbituates and anti-inflammatories. Yeah, its a pretty strong cocktail.
    2. Drop the P. That was actually pretty easy for me at this point, as I no longer needed the frequency for pain management. I still allowed myself to MO for a couple of weeks.
    3. Drop the O. That was when I wound up "edging". I would fall off the edge a time or two and O, but rather than considering it a complete failure and binging back on the PMO cycle again, I would just brush it aside and go on.
    4. Drop the M. This is when I considered myself "done" with the whole PMO habit, and it was easier than I expected.

    In a couple of months, morning wood started to return. I did MO from time to time more as stress relief than anything else, but was careful to leave p, P or even mental imagery completely out of the picture. By not considering those things an actual "relapse", I never went back to "square one". A stumble is not a fall. Since the thing I was overcoming was PMO and PIED, sometimes MO was only a minor setback and not a complete relapse or failure. This mindset allowed me to continue instead of restarting. If I had considered an MO a total failure, binging on PMO would have been more of a "what the hell, why not, I've failed anyway" thing. Don't discount progress over a stumble.

    Anyway, here's the monkey wrench. Once I quite all sexual activity for a while, something physical and terrible happened. I suddenly developed a fibrosis condition known as Peyronie's or "induratio penis plastica". This is NOT something you want. Excessive manipulation of the penile tissue causes micro tears which will want to heal. Like all tears, healing involves some level of scar tissue. In a situation such as successfully overcoming a bad PMO habit...so bad PIED has set in...complete cessation of penile tissue manipulation has a very real danger of allowing Peyronie's to develop. I am now stuck with a condition which is not easily treated. Surgery is a last resort, and scar tissue dissolving drugs are fraught with side effects. My only reasonable choice for treatment involves traction and vacuum therapy...

    Just a warning. When you think you are over a life destroying habit, be aware that a live destroying physical condition is a possible side effect of recovery. Had I been aware of this (I actually had an inclination, but no actual "knowledge"), I would have stopped somewhere between 3 and 4 above. The whole "use it or lose it" thing has much more meaning to me now.

    During my journey away from PIED and PMO, I learned a ton about brain chemistry. While for the average guy, O is a goal, the after effects of it are not something to be desired. This is where the whole concept of "male continence" comes in. Allowing sexual activity but no O. It is a tight rope, but one I certainly wish I had learned to walk before my current state manifested. If a man's penis is conditioned to lots of activity, which is the exact sort of thing that leads one to a forum like this, complete cessation has a very real danger. Truly, moderation in all things is the key. A severe approach to a severe condition may be workable for the short term, but anything severe has danger. Just saying. While I don't believe I was better off in the throes of PMO and PIED, I am certainly no better off right now. By being severe, I have traded a behavioral issue for a physical one, and neither is a good place to be.
     
  10. NoBrainer

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    Really? I've never thought of my testicles as magical items! :p
     
  11. Musta

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    [from Reddit/NoFap] Why you must not edge -"What you're describing is called edging. I PROMISE YOU if you continue to edge you WILL relapse there are no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
    TRUST ME this is as simple as 1+1=2. I stopped going on /b/ for that very reason. You have to cut out pornographic images in general, even perusing that busty girl's Facebook could be dangerous. Here's how it starts, "Man, I'm doing well at nofap. Already at 60 days?!?!? I don't even wanna fap anymore...hmmm...wow Stephanie is looking hot in that two piece...what can I say I just like looking at hot women. There's nothing in nofap against looking at hot women...Let me check out /s/ just to see what's goin' on, it's not like I'm gonna fap or anything. I just wanna see some tits...Wow, these girls are so hot. Let me check out /gif/ it's not like I'm streaming porn or anything, they're just gifs...Wow, I'm so horny right now. I'm sure it won't matter if I just touch myself a little bit...it's not like I'm gonna full on fap and orgasm of anything. These girls are so fucking hot. I know a girl on xnxx that looks just like her...It won't matter if I check her out. I'm not gonna finish, I just wanna see her and that vid is sick...OMG, I can't fucking help myself, she's so hot. I DON'T EVEN GIVE A FUCK ANYMORE. orgasm Wow...woooowwwww..wwwoooooowwww....90 days down the FUCKING drain...omfg.
    I might as well keep going now since I already broke the streak...what the fuck ever...fuck." And that my friend is how it goes. If you allow yourself to walk the tightrope you will definitely lose your balance. DON'T DO IT!" --Esbietoo

    This slippery slope is something that all of us need to watch out for! The key problem is that people think that they can "cheat" the system simply by edging themselves but denying the orgasm. However, the dopamine rush associated with browsing porn is still going to keep the addiction going... and as the floor falls out from under you as you get closer and closer to the point of no return while edging, following through and orgasming will simply be inevitable. Hence, I insist that everyone refrain from even edging! Thismission is [no porn/masturbation], not NoCum. Deal with it.
     
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  12. next1

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    On my previous attempts to reboot I'd edge to porn thinking that it wasn't a big deal. but it was. it would always lead to PMO. Maybe not that very session, but eventually it would.

    For me edging is failing. This time I'll do it better and so far its working out great.
     

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