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Tired of this empty pleasure seeking

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by alameda, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. SavageDeathclaw

    SavageDeathclaw Fapstronaut

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    Porn addiction is an addiction to dopamine brother, in order to overcome you must start limiting all unhealthy dopamine sources e.g. video game and netflix binges and constantly browsing the internet. It's okay to partake in the aformentioned activities in moderation however they lead to the mind being constantly stimulated with a consistent source of dopamine. This leads you to become dependent on dopamine and you will have difficulty abstaining from porn because you are so dependent on a constant stream of dopamine. Learn how to be comfortable with boredom and i think you will find nofap much more manageable
     
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  2. Vinsent

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    Sorry to hear about your cat. I've had a pet death in this week too. A whole lot of tears shed. Well done on abstaining in the face of such sadness for you.
     
  3. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Hey, I think you make a valid point and I do believe that from my own experience that my use of internet and video games is definitely connected with the dependence perhaps on dopamine. However I do feel its unavoidable to an extent in this going forward as technology is bound to keep increasing in its influence on our daily lives.
    Read this article and let me know what you think? I suppose the key is everything in a healthy amount.. http://yourbrainhealth.com.au/dopamine-cause-digital-addiction/
     
  4. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Imreally sorry to hear about your loss also. Yes, it has a hit me hard but I do believe more often than not there are solutions to things. I am getting my mother a new kitten today. Tigger will never forgotten though. RIP Tigger 1998 - 2017
     
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  5. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Day 21 without P and day 11 without m or sex.
    I've recently put images back on the internet as I feel a little bit more resolve in terms of my triggers though if they do get strong I will definitely take images off again. When I watch soccer I tend to uninstall k9 as its impossible to watch games with that on. However; this has been a time where it has been off and I just simply go to a page and before I know I am pmoing.
    I feel though that I am connecting more with the real world again. Im helping people more and hiding away from problems a little more. Im not living perfectly but I do feel calmer and better about myself. Maybe just maybe 4 years off and on trying to battle this addiction I may have finally gone through enough relapses to know where I tend to slip up. Anyway my goal is to fantasize less and read more and be less addicted to the internet. But im not pushing that of side of myself just yet. Simply staying from pmo and making peace with that is enough I feel.

    Im having less urges today and I think im definitely finding it easier by cutting masturbation or sex. This definitely started to push much strong urges. I think im going through the "flatline" period now.

    I also feel like if bad setbacks happen in my life I still dont know how Ill react. But I feel im very aware that using pmo as away to escape would be the very worst one for me considering my addictive history with this habit. Id rather drink alcohol or do something like that to cope than pmo.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2017
  6. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Day 22 with p day 12 without pmo

    I tried Karezza (sex without goal of orgasm) It was better as a way of connecting with my girlfriend and it sort of happened naturally.
    I am not planning on having sex again during these 90 days as I dont want to mess with my recovery by getting tempted by the possible chaser effect this could bring about. Feeling urges still when I sometimes feel a little negative about something...

    I've noticed as well that when im in a energetic mood sometimes I want to relax myself so I can focus a little more. (i got to pmo) This can also be a trigger...
     
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  7. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    day 23 with p day 13 with pmo
    Today is so tough. I have no idea how dont ejculate for 90 days... How the hell do you do it??
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2017
  8. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    relapsed...
    I have plans though... 90 days is my aim nothing nothing less. 23 days with p 13 days hard mode. Hard mode is very difficult but i already notieced huge gains. Each day as it comes. I have been totally on guard today. Already I notice that im objectifying everything and everyone. BUt is it possible to actually do work if you go on a 90 day hardmode. Are we just really uptight by like 10 days. do we not need some sort of release. is 90 days basically saying give up other things and let this be your main focus
     
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  9. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    I was about to binge again. But I went to the emergency. and this totally sums up the situation im in.
    "I've been there. It's an obsession of the mind and it must never be underestimated. Truthfully you're now in a difficult place and THAT must not be underestimated either. Your mind will now start saying, "you've had a fap, you've ruined your streak, so hey... why not have a good look at porn / go for broke... cause tomorrow you'll get on the wagon". DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR HEAD AT ALL COSTS. Like I said, I've been there. Your head is trying to get you back into addiction and what will really happen is:

    • you'll binge like crazy
    • you'll fill your head full of chemicals with the binge (all that dopamine)
    • you'll feel awful and disgusting when you start coming down
    • you won't like those feelings plus the knock to your confidence
    • your self esteem will drop like BAM
    • you'll be back to where you started
    You're at a crucial stage in recovery right now."

    I made it. just about. phew....
     
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2017
  10. w95chris

    w95chris Fapstronaut

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    You have to keep going do not let failure get in your head.There is a voice inside your head that tells you to fap and to try things that will keep you from your goal.Whatever you do DO NOT listen to it keep telling yourself that you will do it that you will succeed.

    Falling down is an accident but staying down is a choice so it is up to you.How bad do you want it?

    You know i tried so many times to quit but could not do it.I always said well next week i will give up faping and then the week after and so on.Until one day i just stopped and that's it.I still think about sex and faping but i am able to control myself and i tell that voice inside my head to be quiet because i want to succeed because i want to stay as far away from this bad habit as possible

    So bottom line is that you CAN do it just keep telling yourself that and watch some motivational videos trust me it helps a lot.Come on @bathtub no time like the present learn from your mistakes and keep moving forward
     
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  11. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Thanks man I really needed that. Ive just done 60 press ups instead. And youre totally right it is a choice!
     
  12. SavageDeathclaw

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    Don't let a small setback turn into a binge brother. Beating this beast requires momentum and after 23 days without P then you have a lot of momentum. This relapse doesn't mean you are starting from ground 0. You are like a ball rolling downhill, you hit a bump in the road and though it slowed you down it didn't stop you. You are NOT starting from scratch so don't let this slip ruin your progress by making you binge and start from scratch. And beware of the chaser effect, you are in a dangerous place now and much more likely to relapse. You need to be extra vigilant the next few days.
     
  13. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Thanks man, I really appreciate this advice and to be honest its very true. Im super tempted today... But this support makes me feel like I can push through.
     
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  14. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Day 1 today.
    pmo makes me feel so crap afterwards. I know its pressure but I feel this is my last chance if Im ever going to actually trust my willpower and belief in myself as someone who can actually honour their word. The fact I chose to relapse/ I chose to self destruct.
    IM goi 90 days but I also I cant avoid staying in as I work from home so im going to really push my passions and push through in all areas.
    1 No working energy drink (seems to make my decision very instant gratification oriented)
    2. get better sleep. (no energy drink, or coffee from 12 onwards
    3. Meditate daily
    4. Give more to others
    5. Take images off the internet
    6. Keep k9 on at all times (not even to watch soccer - watch at the pub)
    7. Exercise
    8. get an accountability partner

    I need to remember

    how crap I feel after I pmo the lack of energy/ the depression/ the emptiness
    How crap sex is after I pmo

    If I relapse this time I promise here that I cancel my internet connection and get rid of this smart phone. No more of this.
     
  15. w95chris

    w95chris Fapstronaut

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    Come on @bathtub one step at a time. During the first days you will feel a strong urge to fap but don't give in just remember how awful you felt after giving in.

    Don't think about faping don't say if I fap just keep saying I won't fap i will succeed.

    I have been this way before and I relapsed many times and I always said well next time i will take strict measures to not let it happen again. But of course i did nothing

    Be cautious and keep moving forward
     
  16. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Day 1 today. Since my relapses my cravings have been so strong (Luckily ive ignored them) Just in case I didnt know a relapse was bad I do now. And just in case I ever questioned im addicted to p I now know I am. Anway I am feeling so grateful that this forum exists. Its good know there is support and acknowledgement of this problem as It really worries me sometimes that I wont get past this. Anyway I have not meditated recently but ive been doing a bit of exercise.

    One of my main triggers is image so i've taken images off the internet again.

    Im going to continue writing in this everyday as it helps me process my thoughts.
     
  17. w95chris

    w95chris Fapstronaut

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    You have to keep going the first few days of NoFap are the most important because at this point the urges are really strong but you must ignore them.I know it is easier said than done but in the end it is all worth it.I remember myself in my last efforts i was really horny i mean everything i did my mind went to p.I struggled but i made it this far and so can you.But you need to try harder do not let yourself fall into the old habits again

    One day at a time.You might want to fix everything right away but these things take time so be careful and don't let that little voice inside your head to take control over you
     
  18. StunBaton

    StunBaton Fapstronaut

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    Man, I really feel for you, I really do. You seem to be struggling hard, and you will definitely get there. Just keep up your fight :)

    Just wanted to emphasize something, however. Unlike many guys in this forum, you are in a relationship, and you definitely value your GF. My point is, do not forget about her and don't let your struggle get in a way of your relationship. Avoiding sex with her just for sake of a NF streak may lead to some bad consequences.

    The best thing IMHO would be to let her know about your addiction and what you are going through. Hopefully, she will understand and help you in your journey.

    If it is not an option for whatever reason, you may need to rethink your strategy. Remember, your primary goal at this point is to eliminate your dependency on P. From what I can tell, you already made some improvements in that area. At the same time you are also trying to abstain from MO and sex, but it may be too much for you to do that all at once.

    So, maybe it would be easier for you to do this in steps instead? Say, you keep away from P and triggers at all cost, as you are doing now, but still resort to occasional MO (with no external stimulants and focusing on your GF, preferably) and also having sex with her occasionally. After you have gained some confidence and, most importantly, sensitivity, gradually replace MO with more sex with her.

    Many folks take the NoFap methodology as an "all or nothing" kind of thing, and it may work for some all at once. But everyone is different, and it may not be that beneficial when you're pushing yourself too hard and risking some important things in the process.

    For myself, it is a different kind of "hard": I am dealing with a recent bad breakup and have no other GF as of now. I resorted to severe PMO just to supress my pain and jealousy, but I went too far. Thus, NF for me is an extreme way of dealing with my present issues, and I am just starting.

    Peace and good luck!
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2017
  19. alameda

    alameda Fapstronaut

    Thanks man. I actually took your advice and have been having sex with my girlfriend/ for now I am just abstaining from P. I do plan to do hardmode but for now I feel just gaining more days without P is enough. Thanks for the great advice
     
  20. StunBaton

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    I am glad that I could help somewhat. Stay strong and good luck!
     

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