Traditional Chinese Medicine view on ejaculation and its effects on health

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by digiter, Jan 20, 2014.

  1. digiter

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    This is crucial as Jing and Yin deficiencies can not be replenished only by abstaining, breathing and exercises (Yang is much easier to replenish by means like qi gong, etc.). They are substances and other substances (food) must be refined to replenish them. First step is leaving the addiction but the damage is done and must be reversed.
    I will also put some links to specific herbs You can buy over internet (which address the issues):
    http://www.iherb.com/Planetary-Herbals-Rehmannia-Endurance-637-mg-150-Tablets/1582
    http://www.iherb.com/Dragon-Herbs-Rehmannia-Six-Combination-500-mg-100-Veggie-Caps/33147
    http://www.iherb.com/Dragon-Herbs-Super-Jing-500-mg-100-Veggie-Caps/23132
    For tonifying Yang (only after tonifying Yin!):
    http://www.iherb.com/Dragon-Herbs-Dragon-Jing-500-mg-100-Veggie-Caps/22355
    In IHERB during first order type code: KIQ663 to receive about 10$ discount.
    They send packages to Europe and I have never had any issues with customs (just pick the cheapest package option - standard post). It takes up to two weeks.
    There is also a great store in UK I found lately: http://www.healthylicious.co.uk/
    They have pretty big choice, just search for the formulas I wrote in former post.

    Also remember the diet (I already wrote the specifications) and rest!
     
  2. digiter

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    Women gain very little of man's energy and only if the ejaculation was without condom. But it is a very minimal portion compared to what you loose. So it is bad for both sides and for the relationship altogether. Although it is extremely difficult to convince a woman that male ejaculation is bad, it is certainly worth it. Women orgasm is on the other hand not dangerous at all, in fact it betters their mood because it relieves liver qi stagnation which is VERY common in single women (that don't have sex).

    For everyone interested in specifics I recommend reading the book:
    http://s3.amazonaws.com/bbemail/PROD/ulib/64he1k/docs/Mantak Chia - Taoist Secrets of Love.pdf
     
  3. FireGuardian

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    digiter:

    You linked to quite a few different variations of herbs. How should one know which herbs are right for one's particular situation if they all do slightly or significantly different things?
     
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    I believe everyone is searching for the perfection of our gender. The perfection of life itself. I also believe that everyone is sharing their experience regarding what works and what is harmful or not beneficial. I would like to share my thoughts as well.


    Ejaculation
    Semen being very important to the male and the high energy level that one experiences when not ejaculating is inarguable. The longer I have abstained from ejaculation which is also from masturbation which is also pornography, which is also fantasizing, which is also from being alone, the more energy I have. I belive there are many variables that are at play and that ejaculation should not be the only factor considered. If you will allow me to dive deeper on an invisible level I will also argue that since Semen is a precious gift of man that is released to shared, if and when it is release and it finds no one, the sacrificial offering is rendered null and thus consequences ensue. A man giving his semen to his wife is a sacrifice, it is a gift, it is an offering of love.


    Tired
    I believe ejaculating makes you tired like exercising tears muscle and makes you tired. Fortunately we know that the muscles only tear to again rebuild stronger which is to say that we cannot judge the act of ejaculation based on the immediate effects of being tired. To do so is like saying the Fathers who bought his son a Christmas gift lost money. Yes, he lost money but he gained something much more in the process.



    I hope this was beneficial and helpful.
     
  5. Mark

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    If I could just offer a quick suggestion for people new to this who would like to 'ease' their way in gently (just to avoid overload etc) and again, these are only suggestions.

    Firstly, read a book called 'Sexual Energy Transmutation' by Jay Onwukwe as its a really quick and easy to read little book that should help get newcomers to this stuff started/enthused.

    Then get hold of 'Taoist Sexual Secrets' by Lee Holden and Rachel Carlton Abrams who both studied with Mantak Chia for 20 years and have written books with him. This audio programme (and phone app!) really breaks down the practices Mantak Chia writes of at great length in his books into very plain and simple language and (with some application) can really get you started on the practical side of things (exercises etc)

    Then read the book 'Taoist Secrets of Love: Cultivating Male Sexual Energy' by Mantak Chia which will offer a much more comprehensive understanding of the above but will also be much easier to digest having 'softened the soil' with the other two suggestions.

    :)
     
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  6. digiter

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    I shared links to formulas that are generally used for depletion of kidney energy that comes after excessive ejaculations. If You want to customize it for Your own health concerns You will have to visit TCM practitioner who will prescribe You something specific and customize it for Your concerns.
     
  7. Computer_Geek

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    Great thanks for the stuff, digiter! I have reviewed it and it helped me to reassess my (until now deteriorating) health!
     
  8. digiter

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    Many fappers and ex-fappers develop pretty much the same health symptoms after years of this addiction.
    First of them is Adrenal Fatigue Syndrome, which I pretty much explained on the first page and also provided some treatment options.
    Second symptom is less severe and usually does not ruin life but is very problematic as modern medicine does not have any clue why does it happen and how to treat it.

    EYE FLOATERS and VISUAL SNOW
    Eye floaters are small specks in view area that are usually transparent but you can see contours. They have different shapes and they flow slowly with the direction of gravity. They are some metabolism products that flow in vitreous. They are especially visible when looking at bright white places like snow or clouds. You usually don't see them when it's dark.
    Visual snow is the feeling like you see an old tv that is not tuned. I will provide a link since I cannot explain it better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow
    For me it's also more visible when I look at bright places.

    Modern medicine doesn't have bloody idea what are the causes of these ailments and does not offer any treatment.
    TCM on the other hand.... http://www.itmonline.org/arts/floaters.htm
    They have an explanation as well as treatment. Of course the underlying reason is indirectly caused by kidney energy depletion which is caused by over-ejaculation.
    Eyes are bound to the liver energy channel and liver energy comes directly from kidneys.
    If You experience similar ailments or other eye problems, You may try these formulas. I'm currently on second phase of treatment (Scrophularia decoction) and will keep you posted if my eyes will get better.
     
  9. Tobias

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    ok... im going to be a bit controversial and for many think it's disgusting ;p What's the effect of eating your own jing? do you get absorb back energy dispensed?
     
  10. digiter

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    No. The energy in semen is very hard to re-absorb after it's pushed out of the body and the digestive system will destroy most of it. The only way to save the energy is to not to waste it.
     
  11. Mark

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    Hi digiter, good to see your doing so well :) I dont suppose you have any thoughts on how a vasectomy might impact on transmutation etc? I had one about 8 years ago and so as far as im aware if I was to ejeculate there would be no sperm as the tube has been cut and only semen would be ejeculated (I dont know if thats technically correct?) and as far as I know the sperm just flows out of the tube and back into my system (presuming its not sealed at both cut ends?) and I just wondered if you had any thoughts/understanding on this and if it would impact on anything? It may even be the case that even if I was to ejaculate that I wouldnt even lose as much energy as someone who hasnt had a vasectomy as one theory I read was that some of the energy is generated by 200, 000, 000 little sperms flapping their tails (and I know that might sound silly to some but I guess it does make sense!) No worries if you dont know as I know its an unusual question. Thanks :)
     
  12. popshot

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    Jing could be a fancy word for testosterone lol. Just a thought. Anyways I've been having all the symptoms you've been listing, plus my sinuses are always stuffed and like crazy allergies that showed up after I started pmo'ing. I'm wondering if you got over all your symptoms?
     
  13. digiter

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    Vasectomy won't help, You will still loose Jing with other fluids as far as I know. The only way is not to ejaculate or have usual orgasm at all.
     
  14. digiter

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    Testosterone can be identified as a part of Yang energy (but Yang is more than that). Jing is the source of all Yin and Yang in the body so it's much more than that.
    Some symptoms still remain, but overall my health is much better. Sinus problems are usually connected with too much damp and/or phlegm in the body, I had similar issues.
     
  15. Mark

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    Cheers. In the time since that question was posed I have decided to lose no fluids or energy at all via usual ejaculation and even though my current understanding is that I would lose no sperm even if I did ejaculate (due to vasectomy), having been practicing taoist transmutation exercises for some time now I dont even feel tbe need to ejaculate anymore which is 'liberating' to say the least. Thanks again
     
  16. popshot

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    Yep that's exactly what my problems are, too much mucus/phlegm. I hope that goes away for good, I've been having these problems for years now. :/
     
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    Really interesting posts thank you so much for the information. I have always wondered about what happens to a mans energy when he has had a vasectomy.
     
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    if you are following Chinese techniques to quit your bad habits its great. but I feel the article is little exaggerated . I am suffering from ibs syndrome and I have over come it by changing my eating habits and medicine. masturbation isn't a cause for ibs , I wasn't addicted to masturbation .I used to masturbate average twice a month . I used to go to gym since I was 17, I used to play football before that ,but still suffered from IBS . so masturbation isn't related to IBS
    even a small medicine reaction could cause you to suffer from ibs .basically ibs syndrome is related to mind rather than sexual organs


    but masturbating daily is a bad habit .

    so if are trying to quit masturbation or any bad habit I have some great tips for u kids

    1 find a physical activity - it could be playing football ,basketball, cricket or join gym .
    (I m sure exercising 1-2 hours u can quit any of your habits )if don't like any of these you can try martial arts or yoga . you will get a great sleep and your urge to masturbate will be reduced by 70-80%

    2 try to avoid fried foods - its best way to get a great health . it will also reduce night falls .but night fall isn't a disease .so stop worrying about night falls .

    3avoid chatting over social sites - better read some good books or play video games

    4 if you have some online friends its great ,but human is a gregarious animal . so you should have some real friends , and step one will help you to make some new friends

    5 anxiety is a main cause for most of disease . mind controls our body . so should be free from any kind f anxiety . so if you have strong will power u could recover from any kind of addiction .so stop worrying about masturbation or any addiction . worrying cause more damage than disease.

    6 last not but the least -try to avoid grammatical errors in my comments :cool::)

    summery - exercise , keep yourself busy , good eating habits, make good friends , avoid anxiety


    if u r suffering from IBS I could help you to get out of it
     
  20. headedup

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    This seems to be fairly legitimate, whether or not it is placebo. Many historical remedies actually have a real chemical effect that we have only recently discovered.
     

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