Truth about NoFap

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by r4429, Jun 19, 2017.

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  1. r4429

    r4429 Fapstronaut

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    What you are experiencing is a simple placebo effect. People told you that not masturbating will be good for you, and you believed them. No credible scientist would ever say there is anything unhealthy about masturbation. NoFap is just another of may puritanical ideas put forward by social conservatives to shame people for their sexuality, especially men. They have been doing it for hundreds of years and this is just the newest version. You fell for it. The effects you have received from it are from the changes you made to your lifestyle to accommodate for nofap. Of course porn is a different story.
     
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  2. If you would have read the About section of NoFap you would have realized that NoFap is not an anti-masturbation website, but you didn't because you're an idiot.
     
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  3. The_Common_Sinner

    The_Common_Sinner Fapstronaut

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    Nobody is forcing you to do NoFap, if you think it is fake then you are welcome to leave. There are some people who already know what you said, about the benefits being placebo, while some make it their motivation to keep doing good.

    Here's a little bit from the About section of the page

    NoFap is not an anti-masturbation website. A clear majority of NoFap’s users and administrators alike agree that there’s nothing inherently wrong with masturbation. A small number of users may believe otherwise, perhaps due to their moral principles, but find NoFap’s broad-minded approach works better for them than the moralistic focus of “chastity” websites that dot the Internet. NoFap does not encourage lifelong abstinence from masturbation or sexual behavior. Rather, we encourage our users to abstain for a period of time for the duration of their reboots—typically around ninety days. While some abstain for longer periods of time—even for life—most of our users then return to masturbation having freed themselves of the need to use pornography. Our users choose what is healthiest for them and best serves their goals.

    NoFap is not a sex-negative website. In fact, we believe that quitting porn is one of the most sex-positive choices a person can make. NoFap doesn’t argue that individuals should abstain from sex or masturbation altogether for the rest of their lives, nor do we argue that individuals should “save themselves for marriage.” We might recommend that our users abstain from sex for the limited duration of their reboot. However, we ultimately want people to enjoy sex! We argue that heavy porn use makes real sex less enjoyable by desensitizing the brain’s reward system, which has consequences on sexual performance and intimacy. Most users return to sex soon after their reboots only to report vastly improved sex lives.

    I hope you don't find me rude, just pointing out the obvious would help.
     
  4. i_wanna_get_better1

    i_wanna_get_better1 Fapstronaut

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    According to your premise, all the people who show up here with fantasy and masturbation issues don't really have a problem at all and that it's all in their head. Their lack of motivation, their failed relationships, their troubles at work, their physical side-effects, their pain and anguish are all because they feel guilty for not living up to society's strict social/sexual expectations. Your premise would suggest that happiness would result from living with less morality and behave according to your baser instincts... in other words, be selfish and act like an animal.

    However, people and cultures who do whatever they want, whenever they want, as much as they want are not happier than the rest of us. It makes you selfish, self-centered, desensitized, and dissatisfied. Doing what 'feels' right is not the road map to happiness. Doing what 'feels' right got most of us into trouble. Only when we start acting less like animals and more like humans and live by a higher code of conduct are we able to find true happiness and contentment in life.

    Maybe your 'enlightened' view works for you but there are over 100,000 people here who will disagree with you.
     
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  5. IggyIshness

    IggyIshness Fapstronaut

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    Masturbation makes me feel like shit, It is not healthy because i am not sane nor in a state of well being which means i will never PMO never again and it is seriously detrimental to you physically and mentally. I dont need no bullshit doctors to tell me what to do.
     
  6. There's nothing wrong with drinking alcohol in a party with friends, but if you're an alcoholic you probably shouldn't drink. The same thing goes with nofap, some people out there can't just masturbate one day and then masturbate maybe a week later, or a month later. Some of us get so hooked on that dopamine hit we indulge in it deeper and deeper, we get into porn so deep we start to numb ourselves from reality, real sexual experiences don't excite us as much as pictures on a screen.

    We get lonely, we get depressed and socially awkward, nofap simply brings the opportunity for addicts to clean their brains from this addiction and live a normal healthy lifestyle. The benefits are real because the science backs it up.

    if you can casually masturbate and not have an escalation problem, if you don't have delayed ejaculation, if you don't care if you watch porn or not, then congratulations, just don't try and speak for the rest of us.
     
  7. If you think it's bull crap, then why don't you simply leave and let people be? Either that, or you're a paid shill to get others back into PM addiction. Science cannot prove everything. Personal experience trumps all forms of evidence every time, so don't wast your time here.
     
  8. I was wondering about if he was paid to say that.
     
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  9. Sorry, but you're just as bad if you think any form of self-sexual pleasure is good for you.
     
  10. We'll never truly know for sure, but who knows. One must be pretty arrogant to criticize a person's own personal experience if you ask me.
     
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  11. Screw the word Nofap because people think it only includes porn. "No self-sexual pleasure" is a much, much clearer and concise term. That covers everything, including didoes, watching soft porn, etc. Anyone who thinks any form of self-sexual pleasure is good for you is in for a bunch of hell.
     
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  12. I know I'll be labelled as a religious extremist for posting this but I agree.
     
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  13. Totally agree. When you m, you throw away your life force.
     
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  14. You know what? I'm going to make my own website in the future called "NSSP," standing for "no self-sexual pleasure." This Nofap website is strikingly similar to "luke warm" Christian churches, among other "luke warm" groups. You can also bet your bottom dollar that people like the person who created this thread will get banned before they can say "masturbate."
     
  15. That's the problem with my generation, nobody has the balls to stand for anything. My great grandfather almost died fighting for something he believed in, yet you millennials will bend over to the enemy and take it up the booty. Pathetic. People like that wouldn't last a day in prison.
     
  16. Unless, you know, that's your cup of tea. I'm all for it. We could use some clowns in the penitentiary once in a while.
     
  17. Our generation has been influenced a lot by the media who overplays and overendorses sexual content and partly also Gen X. I'm not bashing Gen X but they kinda opened the door to the normalization of this sort of thing, they might to be blame for how the millennials see PMO. I'm not deffering blame away from millennials but the media and Gen X did have some influence over the way that millennials see PMO.
     
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  18. Please tell me more. What exactly is Gen X again? I've even heard my grandpa mentioning that his generation "opened the door," and I always raised a brow when he said that. However, I doubt my grandpa would be consider Gen X. Tell me more though.
     
  19. Gen X: born between 1961 and 1981. They were raised in an era undergoing massive societal and cultural change especially with sexual expression. That's why I said that they kinda opened the door to the normalization of PMO.
     
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