[TUT] Blocking porn on all devices. Give your willpower an aid! Easy streaks
Thank you man. I did everything.
Deleted all dating apps, deleted all open porn tabs and blocked porn. Hopefully will never relapse again
ZenAF
Fapstronaut
As if it's that straight forward. You don't seem to understand much about the human psyche. How you see yourself affects your performance. The narratives you go with in your head affect your performance or "how strong you are". So in what you call pretending there's something genuine. If you call yourself weak, you're definitely weak. You'll never surpass your own expectations.
I'm not gonna fact check you on this, but either way, what's the point? Blockers are your gun? Your improved way to deal with porn addiction? Now when I send you a video of some rapper you gonna tell me you can't watch it because your Youtube is restricted? Doesn't sound like a technology jump to me like the sword to the gun. More like from sword to those wooden training sticks, at least you can't cut yourself with those.
It's not about practicing willpower. That's the brute force approach and it doesn't work. Try understanding how you work, what you value in life, why and when do you watch porn, how is it connected to your sexlife, to your relationships, how does it affect it, what do you like about porn what do you dislike, how does it make you feel, are you more likely to watch when you're down or when you're up and why. I've not cured my addiction by pursuing those questions but I've greatly reduced the consumption. And I continue to study myself. I have no trouble to not watch it 4-5 days before I'm gonna have sex, because it affects my sexual performance and that's more important to me than the high of watching porn. But I had to understand that first.
Oh boy, for the second time, yes I've watched it. You misunderstood it if you think they "control" you. They can make accurate estimates of your emotional state and serve you the kind of content which you're most likely to watch with the sole purpose of keeping you on the page the longest to increase ad revenue. After 15 years of social media I bought one pullover from an Instagram ad, and I love it. Otherwise I spend zero money on these companies who gave me an incalculable amount of information and entertainment. But boohoo they are so evil and control the planet, turning everybody into mindless drones, destabilizing countries and what not. If you feel bad about this stuff, I recommend taking a walk in nature, things aren't as bad as you think.
Yeah that's not an option anymore in the 21st century. Unless you live in the woods, Life Below Zero style. (Great show btw)
Yes, because it's not the same thing. But hey, 2 days are not bad, some might've relapsed immediately.
Yeah I get it. To be really honest, I'm not so sure if a life completely free of porn is possible. And I'm also not sure if that's necessary to have a good life. What's important to me is to have a healthy and satisfying sexlife, a strong relationship, career etc. As long as porn doesn't stand in the way of any of that, and it clearly has in the past, I don't care. But that's what I'm saying with the understanding, it's necessary to find mental leverage against this stuff. Personal mental leverage, things that matter to you specifically. A study that shows how porn decreases gray matter just doesn't do the trick.
the300clean
Fapstronaut
i think the correct approach is to see life as balanced: to understand that you need to encounter the forces that try to pull you to different directions, and also to understand that you need to grow a strong will of your own. not just rely on some outside help to do it for you.
however, you seem to hold only one side, and claim that all i have to do is to have a strong will and understand yourself and you psyche better.
i wish you were correct, i hoped in the past you were correct.
in fact, everyone who will ever use a blocker has probably believed or hoped to believe that what you have said is correct, until they found out that they can't escape the sad truth: man are hardwired to fuck. and not hardwired to say no to a naked woman in front of them.
they can DELAY the urge. but to prevent it completely. they need an actual blocker. something physical: it can be a punishment, it can be social pressure, but it has to be outside pressure.
take Muslims for example: 1.5 billion people, and they have decided that the best practice to handle the woman sexuality is to cover her up.
i am not saying that what they did is good or bad, i am just saying that if so many people think that they can't handle woman sexuality by "looking into themselves" and "growing a strong will" , and need to cover her up, and it's backed by a religion of over 1000 years old, than i guess SOMETHING about what i said it is true. and you dismissing what i said like it's nothing, is not very honest of you.
if whatever you do works for you works well - than that's great ! i truly am happy for you, and even envy you a little.
but can you tell me how to replicate your success ? no really. and that's the biggest problem.
blockers are easy to replicate: you download it, you activate it. end of story.
and that's why your talk about how to be clean with understanding yourself better won't be adopted: you can't easily explain how to be clean like yourself, while i can.
skaterdrew
Fapstronaut
Is it now possible to block a smartphone where it is near impossible to bypass?
I have a really good blocking system on my laptop where bypass is next to impossible. At the very least it would be an extreme hassle to bypass it.
But with smartphones I just found bypasses far too easy, so that is why I chose to get rid of mine a few years ago. I also couldn't restrict smartphones as much as what I could restrict my laptop.
So yeah that is the problems I found with a smartphone. I couldn't restrict it anywhere near as much as my laptop, and it was far too easy to bypass the restrictions on a smartphone.
But you're probably aware that people are now literally being forced to use a smartphone. Yes it has reached that point, you must own a smartphone. What is happening in the UK, and probably a lot of other countries around the world is you must have an app on your phone that proves you have been double vaccinated to enter a lot of buildings.
So yes we have reached that stage, literally being forced to use a smartphone is here.
So yeah it looks like I am going to need to get a smartphone, if I literally can't enter a lot of buildings unless I have an app on my phone that proves I have been double vaccinated.
I was just wondering if any of you have really good blocking systems on your smartphones, good restrictions, difficult to bypass etc? What smartphone is easier to restrict, an android or iphone? Has anyone used pluckeye on their smartphone? If you have what is that like?
I have a really good blocking system on my laptop where bypass is next to impossible. At the very least it would be an extreme hassle to bypass it.
But with smartphones I just found bypasses far too easy, so that is why I chose to get rid of mine a few years ago. I also couldn't restrict smartphones as much as what I could restrict my laptop.
So yeah that is the problems I found with a smartphone. I couldn't restrict it anywhere near as much as my laptop, and it was far too easy to bypass the restrictions on a smartphone.
But you're probably aware that people are now literally being forced to use a smartphone. Yes it has reached that point, you must own a smartphone. What is happening in the UK, and probably a lot of other countries around the world is you must have an app on your phone that proves you have been double vaccinated to enter a lot of buildings.
So yes we have reached that stage, literally being forced to use a smartphone is here.
So yeah it looks like I am going to need to get a smartphone, if I literally can't enter a lot of buildings unless I have an app on my phone that proves I have been double vaccinated.
I was just wondering if any of you have really good blocking systems on your smartphones, good restrictions, difficult to bypass etc? What smartphone is easier to restrict, an android or iphone? Has anyone used pluckeye on their smartphone? If you have what is that like?
sinner76
Fapstronaut
I hope so, man.
sinner76
Fapstronaut
Man, you have a point. I agree with what you said, you have to study the whole thing. In fact, we have to do that to gain insight not just about the addiction but about ourselves and our behavior. At the same time, there is nothing wrong with using blockers. I have a friend whose counter is at 100+ days now. He used to relapse a few times a week. What he did is that installed the shitiest blocker in the list on his phone which probably a 3 year old kid could bypass. But it worked for him, he went on a 100+ days streak. all what he needed is a block page when he opens phub.com. It makes him remember that he doesn't wanna do this shit.
Guys, it's not a fight on which "best" approach is better. we should use everything we have.
sinner76
Fapstronaut
I asked the guy I told you about with a 500+ days streak, how did you do it? He said I just lost the taste for porn. He doesn't know how he did. I just assumed he's become old.
Hey @sinner76, I remembered this older post. Do you know if I can report sites that aren't blocked? If so, can you send me an email address? Over the last few months I found some sites that weren't blocked (but should be in my opinion) that I blocked via router.
Edit: I just found the website and email through your start post.
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For Cleanbrowsing DNS, you can join their forum and report sites there.
You can also use Cloudflare DNS. I have used Cleanbrowsing DNS in past and it has many loopholes. Also, Reporting new sites is very difficult for cleanbrowsing. For Cloudflare, you can just go here and enter sites Domain Categorization Feedback | Cloudflare Radar. It is easy. I switched and it is far better.
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Download TestDPC. Set it up. Like Private DNS, Safe Mode, Disallow 3rd party app installation, etc. Then Setup chrome in Managed Configurations. Uninstall unnecessary apps and other stuff on phone.
Hide and lock Test DPC with Inbuilt-app locker (ask someone to setup password for it). Then Lock Playstore or anyother app.
Infidel.48
Distinguished Fapstronaut
nah, family link is better. ask a friend to set it up for you, its way more convenient and good for accountability
skaterdrew
Fapstronaut
Thanks guys. I am going to try hold off from getting a smartphone at the moment, and hope the UK ends up scrapping these plans that require you to have an app on your phone to prove you have had two covid vaccinations to enter a lot of public places.
However if this does become a thing long term, where you do require this, then I will have no choice but to get a smartphone.
The sort of set up I am most interested in is being able to restrict myself and not needing to count on anyone else. So I wouldn't want another family member restricting me through google family link on their phone. I would prefer to have my own password that I don't know that would be restricting me, and I would have a delay system that took me time to get this password.
I really like the screen time passcode on the iphone. I would probably want some sort of set up as close to this as possible. But I know iphones are not worth the money for what I will be using the phone for, so I will likely be left with an android, and I don't know if it is possible to restrict an android phone the same way you can restrict an iphone?
The sort of set up I would want on an android phone would be blocking the majority of apps, chrome, the playstore etc, not being able to download apps from anywhere else, then I would want to use the pluckeye browser on the android phone, and import my configuration from my laptop onto the pluckeye app on the android phone. But I would then want a set up where I would require a password to change unblock or allow any new apps. I would want a set up where it is impossible, or near impossible to bypass all these restrictions without this password.
But I don't know if everything I want is possible?
skaterdrew
Fapstronaut
Yeah I got rid of my android smartphone back in 2018 for a reason. I couldn't restrict my smartphone anywhere near the way I could restrict my laptop, and I could easily bypass any restrictions I had on the smartphone. The laptop restrictions I have in place are far more superior, and bypass is next to impossible, or at the very least an extreme hassle to the point it isn't even worth trying.
This is the sort of level I want with restrictions. But I just don't know if it is possible with smartphones. With android smartphones anyway, I do think iphones seem better for restricting than android phones.
But yeah I am quite annoyed about all this. I chose not to have a smartphone because I can't restrict it anywhere near on the same level I can restrict a computer. But now the UK government could be making it mandatory to require a smartphone.
ZenAF
Fapstronaut
Because you can't half-ass that mindset. You can't say you're in control when you relapse, but you're also not in control. It's either one or the other. You may be leaning to one side but you pull the trigger. So either you take the responsibility that it's you who says "yes, i'll PMO today" or you push that responsibility away from you and say "no, I couldn't help it, my hands moved on their own, i was possessed by lust, I couldn't have said no even if I tried". You know what I mean? It's either one or the other, there's nothing in between, no greyzone. A choice is a choice, that's my point about the mindset.
Now when it comes to strategy, which works best for you, there's no one answer that solves it all. I pointed out the drawbacks of blockers: If you want to get rid of them at some point in the future, you will struggle hard to stay off porn. If you're fine with keeping them all your life, go ahead and use them. If you're fine with relapsing in the future, but you want to experience a few months without porn and see what that's like, go ahead and use blockers.
Now this:
I agree with you. Which is why I mentioned earlier that I'm not sure if one can stay completely away from porn without blockers, or if it's even necessary. I have a social pressure point, which is my sexual performance. That to me is more important than jerking off, flat out. I take pride in fucking a woman properly, I hate to not be able to deliver on that front, I'm competitive that way. And that urge is stronger than porn. So I can stay off porn for a girl. But if I can't see her for more than a week, guess what, I'ma watch some porn. Because there's not enough pressure points to offset the benefit of PMO.
But I rather spend the time finding out what I care about than to simply install some blockers and consider my porn addiction a solved issue.
Yes of course they have influence over us but that's part of what it means to grow up as a man. To not be enchanted by the mere sight of beauty. The average 14 year old dude will not argue with anything that comes out of a girls mouth while she has her tits out. But when you grow older you learn to not lose yourself at the sight of sex. You should start to gain control over whether you want to become horny in any given moment or not. Whether you stand in front of a naked woman or look at porn makes no difference, you're not forced to become sexual. It's just most of the time it feels good and there's barely any downside, so we do it.
the300clean
Fapstronaut
not at all, it's the understanding that my behavior is because of many various reasons: culture, social pressure, law enforcements, availability of evil , privacy of doing bad things, ect.
again, you simply something that isn't simple at all.
so the girl is basically your "blocker" lol. you fuck her, get to relax a bit, and than you dump over me because i don't fuck a girl as a replacement for porn like you do...
to be honest, i think i work on my problem better than you - i try to stay completely out of sex and porn, and try to be really clean. while you fuck girls as a porn replacement and claim to have a moral superiority over me, that's absurd.
neither do you, apparently.. you keep sleeping with girls...
from my understanding, the Muslims cover woman for everyone, also grown man. you can claim that you know better, but you didn't confront the fact that a 1000 religion old has decided that the best method is to cover woman up. so you basically mean you understand better than 1.5 billion people, that you (while keep having sex with girls) know how to control yourself better with porn (duh! you have sex !), and they speak BS ? you have completely avoided the subject, again - not very honest from your side, and not for the first time
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Infidel.48
Distinguished Fapstronaut
no one's hardwired to pixels, unless you start doing it.
Guys this a thread to help blockers and improve tips , not for bullshiting and arguing, go create an another thread