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Using PMO to hide/run from emotions

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Aug 17, 2018.

  1. hello all, i have been a user on this forum on and off for a few years now. and have had to do some deep self digging to try to function without the use of PMO. Ive tried hard mode many times, and always failed. I have realised that PMO wasnt the causing issue. I now believe that PMO has been used as a coping mechanism, along with my heavy drinking which i no longer do. only when i stopped the drinking totally did i kind of realise that my PMO use sky rocketed.....because the other main coping mechanism of alcohol had been removed.

    It seems that i and i dont doubt many other people on this forum seek a number of things from PMO

    1)Distraction: from the things they find difficult in life or uncomfortable
    2)The O: which for me was and is the sole reason i used it
    3)Emotional avoidance: In my own use i noticed that after a hard day or tough emotional day i would look forward to unloading it so to speak in the way of PMO. to make myself feel better. Any instance of anger, fear, insecurity, low self esteem, worry, jelousy, sadness, self hatred or boredom i found myself feeling incredible urgs to PMO to make these feelings dissappear. Which on closer inspection i have come to the conclusion that i myself cannot and have not faced emotions, felt them or allowed them to pass naturally for around 17 years. Which would explain why i am struggling to stop PMO. so for the future i have not looked at PMO as a failure....but i now have noticed that in order to rebuild my life i have to get used to feeling emotions in order to grow from them. process them and learn something from each one. Not ignore them or numb them like i have done with PMO and alcohol or drugs.

    So it seems everyday for me is a learning exercise. its n ot just as simple as stopping PMO, in my case i had to understand why i was using it in the first place. and it is plane to see for me that it was just i do not like to feel anything but comfort and happiness.....which if i want to attain my long term goals....this is an impossible state to be in.


    So feel the emotions guys.... even if you sit with the emotion for 2 3 or even 24 hours then relapse...you have still felt these emotions and allowed them to be with you., which i believe the body and mind will get used to them being there after some time.

    I mean i used to PMO because i was horny....but after serious traumas in my life the useage changed to forgetting my problems rather than being simply aroused.


    take care guys.

    were all in this together
     
  2. Great post helterskelter. You've got to allow yourself to feel those uncomfortable emotions that otherwise would cause you to run back to your addiction. I've been on a decent streak with P & M, but I've been eating more food to suppress the emotions that I'd otherwise quiet by P & M.
     
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  3. Iamdone

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    Very good post, I too am an alcoholic but have not had a drink for many years. I think that alcohol abuse and PMO Are virtually the same.
     
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  4. and that's how addiction forms as it has for most of us, we look for an artificial remedy but in truth it is only a plaster that never sticks which we have to keep putting on each time. The key is to cure the infection not to cover it up and to do that we need support and to be able to talk about our emotions, let off steam in a healthy productive way and find new ways of fulfilling ourselves rather than new ways to find pleasure because pleasure is temporary
     
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  5. Bigguy4u

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    Aye, for me PMO was always a crutch. Loneliness, sadness, fear, anxiety, insecurity. It's what I used to escape during my childhood, little did I know it only made these problems more severe. It is an extremely unhealthy relationship to have with your own body, and can lead to some disgusting developments.
    I wish you luck in overcoming it, I hope you can do the same for me, god knows I need it.
     
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  6. Thanks for the replies. It's a tough situation isn't it. Pmo because lonely and emotional and then complain I'm lonely and emotional....longest I did was around 26 days and I was trying to get every other woman in the sack.i felt great. Suppose we gotta ride it out. And keep strong
     
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  7. Marcothebest_1995

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    That's a strong post. I got to understand that masturbation isn't the problem. And, after a long time, I understood that porn isn't the problem. Not even chats, which can sound absurd! My personal problem is that PMO joint with relational problems with girls have made me not evolving. We used to PMO, when we were 14/15. Then other people started to move towards girls, I remained in the same habits as before.
    I did in the last year a lot of work, Hard Mode of NoFap was a part of it, and I developed the mentality of finding a partner, in the end. It was a hard task, but I did it in the end.
    What I am doing now is cultivating this part, as I am building a relational part from nothing. As long as I will not have a relation, it will be OK, but I will have to cultivate this mentality, by going no porn and no chats (for me)
     
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  8. HereAndThere

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    Yes, its usually that, addiction grows because we have nothing else which makes us feel better. Alot of thing can make us feel this way. It took me a while to realize that PMO by itself might not solve my problems but at least it makes it easier to face them. Little steps, little improvements are something we can do.
     
  9. Dandelion30

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    I can somehow relate to this,. after a long tiring day full of different negative emotions, i used to do PMO and after that i feel emotionally numb but deep in me is a lot more sadness, regrets and disappointment. Because of this post, i understand some reasons why i keep doing PMO but i keep trying my best not to do it anymore. Thanks for this post. Great Job! Good Luck to us :)
     
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  10. Bigguy4u

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    Same here, sometimes i'd come home feeling like a failure, and PMO'd it up. Seemed to numb the pain, if only i'd known what it had in store for me.
     
  11. Marcothebest_1995

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    It is an escape from our problem, at least IMHO
     
  12. Heath

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    For me, porn provided (what I thought) was excitement in an otherwise boring life. Finally, I realized that I deferred to porn because I didn't want to face my life/myself.
     
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  13. Marcothebest_1995

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    Yeah, since a certain moment I suppose that porn has become a way to escape from my personal development. Why boring myself to improve in order to find a so while I had porn available?
     
  14. Westsidejimmy

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    Well said,
    I feel the exact same way. I've suppressed emotions for years. I grew up in a family where men didn't cry. Then went into the military which is oh so helpful with emotional maturity (sarcasm). It finally got me when my dad said a while ago "I couldn't change the world so I had to change myself". And he is one tough old bastard.
     
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  16. Iamdone

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    Great thread guys, Getting educated about my condition has been very important to me and I am greatful to nofap did this. I am amazed at how long we can live in oblivion with PMO, we are completely unaware of how it is transforming us into something we don’t want to be. When I look back at the relationship problems that I have experienced in life, I’m saddened because all those who got hurt didn’t really stand chance, they didn’t know what they were dealing with and I didn’t know was dealing with. Porn kills relationships & it deadens those who use it. I have a long road in front of me but I have to be honest I’m kind of inspired now to travel it. For the first time in my life I feel like I have the tools to deal with this and I understand so much more than I ever did. My goal is to be sexually healthy, to live in a healthy functioning relationship. I know I cant make up the ground that I have already covered but I can certainly make sure that the rest of the road I travel will be different. We should all feel fortunate that we can reboot & start a new. This form is a blessing. Thanks
     
  17. trivial

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    And that's why you have to heal yourself after that traumatic event. I mean this addiction is just a manifestation of something underlying, something unsolved. It's a call deep inside, begging us to heal ourselves. Unless we heal ourselves, or we will never escape this addiction.
    So I switch my attention to the other problem of my life. I investigate to the past, to the events that could possibly underrated and caused the trouble. And even when I relapse, I feel more sympathy for myself because I know that I need to fix the other things.
    Guys, why some people watch P and never have any problem with it while some of us seem so vulnerable to it? There must be something in common. That's the question I asked myself when I tried to find another answer for this riddle.

    Peace.
     
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  18. I believe some guys don't have a problem with it because they're not trying to escape life. Like a guy who is addicted to alcohol can't have 1 or 2 drinks then go home. They simply cannot do that. That is their chosen escape route. And choosing a new route is incredibly hard. I wrote down some things to help me remember why I want to stop.....


    Emotion:sadness,loneliness, low esteem
    Action:pmo to my hearts content
    Result: more feeling of low esteem, unworthiness, loneliness.....

    More of what I'm trying to escape.

    A better way I've found is this....
    Emotion:sadness loneliness.....
    Action:feel the emotion.....allow it to be there. Allow pmo cravings allow anger and frustration....
    Result: emotion passes naturally ususlly within 20 minutes, no more feeling A of guilt or shame....instead a feeling of power and accomplishment.


    Nothing us easy though.but we have to constantly remind us of our goals in order to achieve them.

    And my goal is to find a good woman I can love....And whilst I'm viewing women as useable objects, this will never happen.


    Good day guys
     
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  19. Kick

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    bro I agree to that strongly ,cause I also do pmo even there is no arousal everyday.
     
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  20. Marcothebest_1995

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    It's true. I accepted that these streaks are cycles that are very likely to end with a reset (trying to get the difference between reset and relapse) until I will solve all my personal issues. Now one remains, the last one.

    I have two tasks, in this new view: the first one is to stand as much as I can, my obj is still not having resets nor relapses. The second one is that I have to react whenever I reset, going for a new streak.
     

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