LOL This is your antithetical argument? This is terrible! Effects do not necessarily prove cause. Just because you can point out to me a "vegan bodybuilder" does not mean it completely disproves anyone's argument, not mine and not yours (your shell of an argument, anyway). If we understand how the human body works, then this should put some pretty reasonable doubt on the term "vegan bodybuilder", now doesn't it? "Cherrypick", my ass. That's just an excuse people like you use that can't reconcile what they're reading. Non-specific assertions that attempt to trivialize the issue. Moving on. The fallacy that your anecdotal evidence is just as good as my detailed analysis on the human body. Assuming you really do feel better, I'd wager that is the case because of the following reasons: It's because you're eating less (if not none of it at all) of processed carbohydrates. Biscuits, cakes, donuts, breakfast cereals, etc. And its these carbohydrates that are the cause of obesity. Bread, sandwiches, pasta, pizza, fries. These are all things you do want to limit in your diet since they cause too much insulin in the blood. Once you have too much insulin in your blood, your body will produce an uncontrolled amount of insulin and store the majority of what you eat away as fat. And since you're eating "healthier", you may be doing just that, you're breaking away from these processed carbohydrates. Sugar cannot leave your blood on its own. It has to be "escorted" by insulin. It is insulin that essentially takes the sugar's hand, tells it to come with it, and "opens the doors" for all the tissue in the body. Cells, muscles, brain, etc and pushes the sugar in. And then the cell can use that sugar for producing energy, which is why people like to carb up and consume sugar before a workout. It gives them energy to do so. HOWEVER, working out will burn that sugar and carb away, so instead of your body storing it, it uses it up for energy. When a person is dumping huge amounts of glucose for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, as well as in-between those meals all the time, the person ends up with too much insulin in their blood and thus, growing obese, and having to deal with that situation. Nevertheless, it still doesn't mean you're doing your body a favor. You're still going through a controlled malnutrition. So instead of giving me anything substantial, you basically say "pfft, that's stupid, biologists would disagree (which is an appeal to authority) and we can do well without meat because we can". Well done. Even if you actually give me something substantial after reading this, I shouldn't have to tell you to do so.