We become two people when we masturbate.

Discussion in 'Problematic Sexual Behavior' started by ultrafabber, May 17, 2019.

  1. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    This is a newer version of an older idea of mine and it has a very theoretical approach that i'm sure many won't agree with.

    I kept thinking on what masturbation means and how bizarre it is when you think about what is really happening.

    Whether you watch porn and masturbate (which is really bad), or just masturbate to your fantasy, the point is that you still "fake sex".

    Most of the new "sexual theory" likes to state that masturbation is somehow a separate entity from sex but i find that to be erroneous at best. Masturbation merely mimics sex, it's not "self exploration" or whatever the term of choice is now.

    The thing is your body couldn't get aroused, get and erection, feel pleasure and your penis wouldn't end up ejaculating if your body/mind didn't register the experience as "sex with a woman". You're just tricking your body/mind to think it's having sex and you're providing the illusion (images and touches) but at the end of the line it's just "pretend sex". The term "masturbation" takes away this undeniable truth.

    Now, since sex is always a paired activity, you can't do it by yourself, you need a partner. This "partner" is your hand usually which represents the woman stimulating you.

    But what does that mean? It means that you have to "split" in two persons - there's the male you who "feels" the "woman" and there's the "woman" you that "stimulates" the man.

    This is in my opinion extremely damaging because you stop being the man only and start being a woman (or vice-versa if you're a woman).

    If you think about it in terms of sensations you get, you as the "man" get like 10% of the sensation of a real vagina/mouth etc while you as the "woman", though your hand, get 100% the sensation of stroking a real penis.

    This becomes even more problematic if you watch "boy-girl porn" and when you see a woman manipulating a dick while you're stroking your own, pairing the sensations your get (and stroking a dick is the more genuine sensation), implies that you're actually the woman in porn, not the man. Basically, you are manipulating the penis and you see a woman manipulating the penis, therefore you are the woman.
     
  2. Monk1415

    Monk1415 Fapstronaut

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    well that's a scary thought lol
     
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  3. Rairah90

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  4. You hate yourself and your body if you’re heterosexual. If you would love yourself you would be gay. Means you hate your dick. This is even more problematic if you’re really manly.
    ;-)
     
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  5. So the solution is to watch gay porn?
     
  6. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    Loving your dick is using it for it's intended purpose. If you think loving your dick is manipulating your dick, you should also be totally excited to suck it (hopefully you're not).
     
  7. oneotwo

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    Dude i agreed with you, i think mo is reely wierd act, and all the sex fantasy, ofcurse we canot shot down the fantaize at first they came out, but after 5 sec you can handle this and say its not for me, i wanna be in the present noy in the past and future.
     
  8. cigarettesatmidnight

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    This theory is really silly, sorry. Do you know child can masturbate? I don't think they are mimicking sex or splitting into two.
    I myself have masturbated long before I watched porn for the first time or even knew what sex was.
    Tell me please, how can you explain that?
     
  9. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    Children can do a lot of unhealthy stuff, just because some do it doesnt mean its normal or healthy.

    Childhood masturbation is associated with psychiatric issues like anxiety (separation anxiety) or others. Its in a way very similar to thumb sucking.
     
  10. george53

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    In my opinion this is what happens when you masturbate AFTER disovering P. I remember that the first time I did it I was thinking about a woman I actually knew, and it was like a flow of positive energy coming in. Then P came and it felt just bad and addicting.
     
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