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Wet dreams - Cowpars fluid and Prostrate fluid vs Sperm.

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Mystical•Citra, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. Mystical•Citra

    Mystical•Citra Fapstronaut

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    There are 2 different types of wet dreams, and it is very important to be able to distinguish between the two types because the differences are huge.

    There are 2 glands that release a fairly clear sticky fluid and their jobs are to lubricate and prepare the ejaculatory tube for sperm to pass through it.

    The names of these two glands are the Cowpar's gland and the famous prostate gland. Both of these play a significant role in delivering our precious seed.

    When one has a wet dream and there is not an erection involved, more then likely the emission is only made up of these 2 fluids, and is lacking the sperm. This is much better then having an emission that includes losing the sperm. When an erection is present it usually involves a dream made up by your subconscious mind, whether you remember it or not. The subconscious replays what ever you think, fantasize, or see durring the daytime, so if you are watching pornography during the daytime, or even just fanticizing about sex in your mind, it will be replayed in your subconscious during your sleep, resulting in an increased chance of loosing sperm in the sleep state.


    Edit- New information found-

    "There appears to be a definite relation between disturbed functioning of the prostate gland and neurasthenia. In view of the fact that the prostatic secretion was found by Stern to contain "abundant amounts" of lecithin, which is an important constituent of nervous tissue, we can readily understand why the loss of prostatic secretion, a constituent of the semen, should tend to cause undernutrition of nerve-cells by depriving them of lecithin, and thus bring about chronic undernourishment of the nervous system, manifesting in neurasthenia. For this reason, lecithin preparations have been used for years by European physicians for the cure of neurasthenia, and with marked success. But there is no sense in administering lecithin externally if the organism is losing its own physiological lecithin through seminal discharges, the dietary prevention of which should be the first step in the treatment of neurasthenia."

    http://gnostictransformation.blogspot.com/2009/04/science-of-orgasm.html
     
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  2. beauty

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    I can't tell if my nocturnal emissions are clear or white because my pyjama bottoms absorb most of the liquid.

    On another note, I had another wet dream last night. That's two nights in a row... I'm hoping this isn't going to be reoccurring. :eek:
     
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  3. Mystical•Citra

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    I did too bro, I honestly think it has to do with the full moon, it is a very powerful moon right now. Mine had no sperm so I am relieved. Its been like 39 days since my last one. Lets see if they fade with the moon.
     
  4. Dad

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    Hey Citra

    I'm very interested in the production of these fluids.
    Do you have a source for your information?
    I would like to have an hour with a really good urologist so I could ask all of my semeninal fluid questions.

    I've been doing some experimentation with non-ejaculatory orgasm. I need to know what is happening with those fluids when they don't ejaculate.
     
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  5. Mystical•Citra

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    Just google search the two glands, the internet is loaded with information on them.

    I dont have any experience with non-ejaculatory orgasm's. I believe that any form of self stimulation in the name of self pleasure is bad, and only feeds the ego named lust. I know that sex between man and woman without ejaculation is extremely good, but only when performed with true love.

    My guess is that a urologist will tell you that it is like starting and reving up an engine without taking it for a ride to burn off the condensation which is terrible for the vehicle. This aligns with what they are taught in school. They do not recognize semen being able to travel anywhere but downwards, because they do not recognize the subtle energetic aspects of it.

    I think that it is a dangerous act personally. Here is a link that may help you find your answer

    http://gnosticteachings.org/forum/s...inal-fluids-for-men-and-women.html#reply-7917

    Either way, good luck I hope you find the answer your looking for!
     
  6. IGY

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    I thought Clumsy was as mad as a box of frogs, but nocturnal emissions based on the phases of the moon? Cum on! :D
     
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  7. Mystical•Citra

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    Ignorance is bliss, huh IGY. You can call me crazy it's cool, but for those who dont think im crazy now your statement makes you look stupid.

    I am just observing life from a non biased perspective.

    Remember that the cycle of the moon causes oceanic tide cycles to exsist, and the human body is 70% water..

    Remember that the cycle of the moon is heavily intertwined with the female menstration cycle..

    Remember that we used to think the earth was flat.

    Please stay out of my threads IGY,
    Thanks
     
  8. IGY

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    For the sake of clarity: William Cowper gave an early description of the bulbourethral glands (also called Cowper's glands). During sexual arousal both glands produces a clear fluid called pre-ejaculate (or precum). This fluid helps to lubricate the urethra for the sperm to pass through, neutralizing traces of acidic urine in the urethra. It also helps flush out any residual urine or foreign matter.

    Alexis Littré gave an early description of the urethral or periurethral glands (also called Littré's glands). During sexual arousal both glands produces a clear fluid called pre-ejaculate (or precum). This secretion of mucous protects the epithelium against urine. In addition to this, some men leak sperm into their pre-ejaculate.

    Men average 6 erections a night and it seems unlikely that this reflex would not be induced by an erotic dream, regardless of if it is remembered. I don't see how secreting precum is OK, but cumming is to be avoided. :confused:
     
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  9. IGY

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    Surely, you do know that the lunar cycle is not 39 days? Please provide any links to research into lunar wet dreams.
     
  10. Mystical•Citra

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    I refuse to exchange in senseless conversation with you IGY, but thanks for bumping my thread kid! :)
     
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    I really hope they do. I feel, excuse my language, like shit today. Although I've been drinking tons of water, and had a long productive day, I felt sluggish and I had a relatively short-fuse compared to other days. People began to irritate and piss me off.

    I hate WD's because this is what always happens the day after.
     
  12. Mystical•Citra

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    lol, that sucks man... I know how you feel though, This is not my first time that I have gone for weeks and then a full moon comes along and bam! wet dream. I found that on the full moon days I get irritated easier also, so full moon irritation plus post-wet dream is a rough combo!

    Weirdly, I noticed that anger seems to be a major player in my occurance of wet dreams also, and when I realized that then I started watching my emotions much more consciously throught the days and I think its paying off. When we get angry or upset we waste so much energy, I never noticed these things until I started my nofap journey.

    One thing is for sure Beauty, We are becoming better human beings every single day whether we realize it or not! I hope you feel better tommorow.

    Citra
     
  13. MelancholyWeightlifter

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    Try to be a little more polite Citra. IGY is warranted to show skepticism. If there is no research to back up your claims, just say so. That doesn't mean you are wrong, just say it's your opinion/observation.

    Also keep an open mind IGY. No need to needlessly put down someone else's ideas.
     
  14. Dad

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    Thanks for the link Citra

    I guess it comes down to what practice we adhere to.
    Right now I'm exploring a non-dualistic approach. Specifically I'm not subscribing to the concept of good and evil. The idea of black and white arts comes down to judgement. (Talk about ego, oj!)

    I totally respect your commitment to your path. It sounds so strong and clear.
    I don't have a problem with ambiguity, I rest on the Buddhist concept of impermanence. I'm 57 years old. I've been exploring spiritual philosophy since adolescence. I, personally, can't be bothered with dogma.

    Still, I'm very interested in what modern, conventional, science brings to the table. I like evidence based information. Unfortunately, that shines some lights on what goes on here at NoFap.

    I think that it would help all of us to loosen our grips a little on our own beliefs. Recovery can come through open mindedness.
     
  15. notouchee

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    Hello all,

    I'm just wondering. Why is sperm loss to be avoided? I mean, the goal of many of us on this forum is to eliminate porn, sexual fantasy, and either all/or just unhealthy masturbation from our lives. These are all voluntary lapses of self-discipline. Wet dreams are the body's natural way of "flushing the pipes." Many of my sexual, and occasionally wet, dreams have not been about any porn viewed, but my wife, old girlfriends, or even women I know in a platonic way. In any event, I've read that Freud believed that re-absorption of sperm made a man stronger, but there is no medical basis for that. Is it perhaps a spiritual reason?
     
  16. Mystical•Citra

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    Yes it makes a man stronger on all levels. It makes him stronger mentally, physically, and spiritually. My own experience has proved this to me without question, I have changed much since I began.

    If you look at any form of martial arts or boxing they will also attest to this being very true.
    Internal energy work is the foundation to most of your martial arts and the core of that is seen in arts like Chi-kung, Tai-Chi, Nei-Dan, etc. The foundation is to build up your Chi (bio-energies) and to learn how to feel them, then learn how to control and minipulate them. How do you think Bruce Lee performed his famous [one inch punch]. This is also how many eastern healers work, and even here in the west they are now begining to admit this with recognizing accupuncture and other ancient energy healing techniques. Western science is now waking up.

    In america especially we are very materialistic and technology dependant. We need to see it to believe it, but their are many things in science that are unexplainable with material science and the naked eye. For example, the meridians of the body cannot be cut with a scalpal or seen with an x-ray, yet they are definetely there.

    It is also well known that the complete scale of light goes way beyond what is visable with the naked eye, and even the most advanced technologies.

    I have no reason to say this or that must be true because of an adgenda that I am trying to fill or something like that. I am just like everyone else here who is trying to do their best to learn and gain control over my body and mind, with the goal of becoming a better, more awakened human being.

    Just like humanity used to think the earth was flat, I believe that there is still much to be explored in this world. I think that the west has become overly dependant on machines and technology, so we have essencially become materialists. We have ignored the energetic world, we have ignored the magic of energy and now with quantum physics progressing the most progressive scientists in the west are even starting to see how much we have missed along the way.

    Everything is energy, and energy cannot be destroyed. It can only be transformed or changed from one form of energy to another form.

    It would take me hours to sit here and explain what the male sexual fluids do for us on these energetical levels, so I will try explain it simply. The actual sperm is the final product of a huge process of breaking down and refining the food we eat. The final and finest of these materials is eventually broken down into blood, then the finest of our blood becomes bone marrow, then the finest of the bone marrow becomes our sperm. It is not easy for our bodies to manufacture the supplies needed to create this life sustaining essense. Do not forget that this is the stuff that keeps the human species alive. It has the spark within that can create a new human being, really amazing stuff. This makes it much different than prostate fluid, cowpars fluid, blood, or any other fluid in the human body.

    It is well known in the very deepest esoteric core teachings of ALL religions that the sexual energies are not to be wasted because it is the divine creative energy force of god him/herself. If you have ever heard of the ancient science of alchemy or freemasons, the philophers stone, holy grail, turning lead or mercury into gold, etc this is at their core. These esoteric teachings are very symbolic and the core of it all lie's upon the sexual energies, their transformations, and how they can be utilized to benefit mankind by awakening consciousness or destroying it.

    In symbolic terms the sperm can be collected in the body and when build up to a certain level your body kicks into transmutation mode. It becomes like a mini sun inside of you. This mini sun is transmuted slowly and radiates subtle energies throughout your whole body, the more that is stored and transmuted within the more power you have for use in all aspects of your life. When these divine creative forces are spilled out and wasted through desire for selfish personal satisfactions like the orgasm, they are polarized negatively through lust and negative qualities of your ego, causing degeneration of the mind, body, and soul.

    When stored and utilized properly they travel upwards fueling and fertilizing the central nervous system, activating parts of the brain, boosting the immune system, our will-power, creativity, and our physical health.
    When this subtle divine energy gets build up to higher levels it starts to spill out from the heart, radiating love and bliss. It also gets spilled out eventually through your "third eye", or pineal gland. This is the gland in the center of our brain that produces DMT (visions), melatonin (sleep), and physic powers (clairvoyance). The Pineal gland gives us real knowledge, knowledge from god, which for one example allows a person to realize deeper meanings behind ancient text and scriptures.

    There are so many benefits to taking control over our sexual organs and urges. When we gain control over our beastly animalistic nature and rise up into the higher plains of existance becoming a true human being, we gain unlimited potientials. When we allow our lower beastly animalistic instinctual nature to overcome and control our wonderful gift of will-power, we destroy our very own divinity and slowly de-evolve ourselves into the pits of suffering.

    Most people cannot stand to look in the mirror these days, this is the sad state our civilization has brought ourselves to, caused ultimately by a lack of self control.

    Today pornography and sex is used everywhere we look for profit, and we are encouraged to let our sexual organs control our very lives. Being members of a NoFap community you all know this very well by now.
     
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  17. Mystical•Citra

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    What better way of learning is there then experimenting with yourself. We can all perform scientific experiments right here with our very own bodies, we just have to be aware of what is happening inside of us thats all. Self observation is the key.
     
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    your right, i will work on that. I dont have any problems with skepticism but He was being very negative and just wanted to pick a fight it seemed. We have had other problems outside of this thread before and thats why I was quick to respond defensively. I apologize
     
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  19. Mystical•Citra

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    Yes, I know it is not 39 days man! I dont have any scientific proof for most of my reasoning to be honest. I am a firm believer that we can learn so much just from self observation alone. I am a very honest person I promise and I only seek to help others in whatever ways that I may contribute, while always keeping an eye on the bigger picture. I seek no personal gains what so ever. I am also quite the skeptic but I have experienced a lot within my 32 years of life on this planet, the biggest and hardest to cope with was the deception comming from the ones we are supposed to trust.

    I keep journals of all of my wet dreams and many other occurances in my life, and this helps me look back and figure out many things that otherwise I probably would never had noticed. I could provide all of the dates that I had wet dreams and when the full moons were and all of that but nobody is interested in that, so if you wish to take my word for it then cool, if not no hard feelings!
    :)
     
  20. ProperFool

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    First of all "sperm" and "semen" aren't the same thing; you're using "sperm" when you seem to mean "semen". Semen is the fluid, which includes prostatic fluid and Cowper's fluid as well as the cells, which are the sperm. So yes, "sperm" is indeed "much different than prostate fluid" :)

    I realize that you're not interested in relying exclusively (or even primarily) on Western medicine and "materialistic" science.

    I certainly agree that "Western science" does tend to be very focused on what is observable with a narrow set of instruments and senses. I think it's wrong to reject it as wrong, just because of that; just as it would be wrong to accept that only those things exist that "Western science" can explain. It's simply one way of looking at the world, and you've got another in terms of Gnostic philosophy. Perhaps we can agree that both ways are useful, for the limited extent of what they describe?

    If so, you're making specific claims about what living cells do. This is something that even "materialistic" science should be able to observe, such as your claim that "bone marrow becomes our sperm". So, do you have any particular evidence for this? Because "Western science" has a pretty good handle on the mechanisms of how sperm are formed and where the fluids come from, and none of them seem to involve bone marrow!

    Later, you write
    Actually, I am. You're claiming a correlation between the phase of the moon and the statistical frequency of your wet dreams. There are ways of testing this hypothesis. Admittedly, it would require "Western", "materialist" things like statistics, so perhaps you'd rather not submit your data to that kind of examination. If you were interested in discovering more in the data than just the descriptive record of what was going on, then there are ways to do that - that's all I'm saying.
     

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