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What about hypnotism?

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by Lapirata48, Oct 26, 2015.

  1. Lapirata48

    Lapirata48 Fapstronaut

    Has anyone tried it?
     
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  2. Lapirata48

    Lapirata48 Fapstronaut

    There are lots of success stories out there about people quitting smoking using hypnotism so I wonder if the same could be used for porn addiction. Is there any reliable information out there?
     
  3. david-ca

    david-ca Fapstronaut

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    How about you don't even think about the easy way even if there is one and take this like a man?!
    Who knows if it works for you plus like what i said:Take this like a man and resist the urges and stop pmo!
     
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  4. Lapirata48

    Lapirata48 Fapstronaut

  5. A common theme in the hypnosis community is that "all hypnosis is self-hypnosis." There is a hypnotist involved who knows techniques and powerful language and things like that, but it initially depends on the willingness of the subject to give hypnosis a fair shot at working. It operates first at the level of the mind, rather than biochemically, so it directly interacts with your consciousness before being able to reach the subconscious. If you go in with the idea that it probably doesn't work, it won't.

    I haven't tried it for NoFap purposes, but I have researched it for other purposes and tried it for relaxation.
     
  6. suben380

    suben380 Guest

    Hypnosis attempts to say stuff directly at your subconscious mind. The subconscious mind easily believes things, if repeated enough. If your conscious mind isn't in the way, hypnosis works.
     
  7. PotentLife

    PotentLife Fapstronaut

    From this link.

    How can hypnosis help recovering sex addicts?
    Hypnosis can stop the purely cognitive functions the person is familiar with and engage him in new inner experiences which will produce different attitudes about sex. This leads to a lessening of the toxic core beliefs about the self which is the foundation for the sex addiction.

    Trance induction is using the power of the unconscious mind to re-work the neurological wiring, born of childhood experiences, that creates unwanted, self-destructive impulses and behaviors that continually result in adverse consequences.

    Hypnosis is used to retrain the client’s neurology to increase the ability to tolerate unpleasant effects/feelings that are often triggers for sexual acting out.

    The experience of the erotic haze is intense and compelling. One reason for its hold on people is that it is a psychologically stimulated neuro-chemical state, induced by the release of adrenaline, dopamine, endorphins, and serotonin that occurs when the sex addict engages in intense sexual fantasy, rituals, and behaviors.

    In truth, maintaining the high of intense sexual cruising and fantasy is more sought after than the sexual act itself. Like a gambler walking into the casino, sex addicts are high on their own neurochemistry long before actually acting out.
     
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  8. It took me a long time to realize that everything under the category of 'hypnosis' wasn't nonsense. This is sad and curious because in truth for my entire life what I have really been doing with most of my time is hypnotizing myself and seeking better ways to do it :D

    The first thing to get straight is what is hypnosis really? The simplest answer I have found to this is: "hypnosis is using imagination to alter your state of mind"

    It's obvious we do this to ourselves, and allow this to be done to ourselves all the time.

    Day dreaming, PMO, music, advertising, movies, objectifying etc. etc.
    These are all hypnotic activities where we focus on 'the imaginary' for the sole purpose of changing our state of mind... there is no point to any of these activities if they do not, they would be dismissed as boring and useless if they were not hypnotic

    ...and if you consider there is so much going on in your mind that drives your decisions and reaction that is not directly conscious (and if you are aware enough to recognize PMO as an addiction then you know this first hand), and that your unconscious mind is not actually hardwired (as we sometimes lazily supposed) but that a lot of it is more like an echo chamber of your conscious minds past experiences (real or imagined).... that were all seen and processed through your state of mind.... then in short: it really starts to matter what you do with your mind.


     
  9. Lunar Devil

    Lunar Devil Fapstronaut

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    All right I see, so its like practicing arts such as evocation/spirit communication...I assume concentration (mental) would help with this somehow
     
  10. Well kinda but those practices are specific and require an actual belief in the paranormal as well as ability to communicate with the paranormal... which is either true or false and at the same time cannot be proven or disproven... of course you could say that someone trying to convince you this is real, or you yourself convincing yourself it is real, is using something like a hypnotic process..

    But hypnosis in general is much broader and easier, a football player psyching himself up for a play is doing a form of self hypnosis. Likewise if he is rehearsing the play in his mind, visualizing the details and contingencies, is a form of self hypnosis. But the primordial example is staring at a woman, I'm an ass-man myself, the longer I stare at a hot ass the more mush my brain becomes. It is the hypnotic mechanism that puts my mind in the "fuck that" mind set. And btw this stuff is proven scientifically. You can measure a males ability to make rational decisions before and after looking at a sexualized woman. And yeah what car and boat advertisers have known all along is easy to prove: The male rational decision making process goes way the hell down after looking at hot women :p ...duh... it's one of the reasons we jack off after looking at porn...

    Becoming aware of how your state of mind changes and how to make it work for you rather than just reacting to other ppl trying to manipulate you... is the coolest thing.

    My own self hypnosis stuff is really simple. For one there is getting out of the PMO sate of mind by first deconstructing the illusion that gets me into it in the first place, as well as setting up reactions and red flags if I am slipping and techniques to get my concentration and motivation to do other things back. My will power only has sway over my rational mind... which is spaced out during a PMO slip... this stuff gives me a fighting chance over the non-rational mind.

    The other is with getting into the zone with music. If I visualize flows, like wind blowing through trees or water swirling through rivers, and really concentrate on that (while at the same time being utterly calm and relaxed and focused on the music) then it somehow becomes this parallel connection with the music I am making or listening to, the imagery of the flowing gets tied to the music and at the same time my awareness and concentration of the music goes through the roof, I am suddenly aware of smaller details and larger connections that I normally do not notice. This is the perfect example of hypnosis there is nothing true or false about visualizing something flowing, yet directing my imagination to that improves my ability to listen... I used to have to take drugs just to get a glimpse of that... just using my imagination is so much more powerful.
     
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