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What is Jordan Peterson's view on pornohraphy?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Pauley, Dec 18, 2022.

  1. Pauley

    Pauley Fapstronaut

    I heard that Jordan Peterson has made his opinion on pornography public. I tried to find an article about that but they all refer to the YouTube videos. Since I'm currently not allowing myself to go on YouTube, can anyone explain his main view points? Thanks in advance ...
     
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  2. OhWhenThe

    OhWhenThe Fapstronaut

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    That porn is killing young guys' drive - both sexually and generally.
     
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  3. Raje13

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    You're right it is absolutely killing all our Sexual drive or ability to reproduce At all
    It needs to be eliminated
     
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  4. AbTheAb

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    Out of curiosity, why would you be interested in what he thinks about it? You do know Peterson was just recently shilling for Benjamin Netanyahu the infamous war criminal with ties to Larry Silverstein and September 11th?
     
  5. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    (from YouTube) @Pauley there you go
     
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  6. Pauley

    Pauley Fapstronaut

    I don't know any of those people and I'm don't see what you are implying. You say that he's partially responsible or at least fine with the attack?

    I never really seen to much of him, but I like many of his quotes here and there.
     
  7. AbTheAb

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    Yes of course, to lead you astray they have to let their men say some genuine things here and there, otherwise he can't make a following to later subvert them.

    They understand the problems they have created, and how in modern society most young men are lacking a father figure, they probably figured Peterson could pass as one, saying the things that fathers who are not there either due to divorce or heavy work load didn't say to young men. But he will slip in the poison to his audience amongst his genuine words and show his true colors when the real authorities need him which he already did BTW.

    Peterson didn't have anything to do with September 11th of course, but the person whom he interviewed (Bibi) did and is a well known criminal and pathological liar. Google is not your friend BTW, finding information using it is truly difficult nowadays with all the censorship, gosh, I miss the old days of the internet when a search engine gave you genuine search results.

    I've read some of Peterson's work and saw a lot of his interviews. He claims to be about integrity, never lie, etc.. Yet he lies for a living and is now interviewing criminals. I suppose Peterson is at the end of his run, and they milked him enough and they are just trying to get whatever they can from him while some people still fall for him.

    If you don't know Bibi or Silverstein I guess all this is probably meaningless to you now, but maybe in time it would.
     
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  8. Toni7

    Toni7 Fapstronaut

    He talks that you are third person. That you will get use to that and that is bad. Also that is to much dopamine for your brain. And all the negative side effects of that... Good talk with him and Andrew Huberman.
     
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  9. Pauley

    Pauley Fapstronaut

    Thanks, I want to check it out after my challenge :)
     
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  10. Toni7

    Toni7 Fapstronaut

    Yeah firat finish your challange, you don't have to just watch phone when you are watching videos. You can write something in notbook. Maybe something you hear from video.
     
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  11. Unmet Potential

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    Also not allowing myself on youtube, very annoying sometimes but definitely worth it, I'd waste so much time watching nonsense.
    I still watch shows but I don't find myself glued to the screen for 2 hours doing that, it's just, algorithms have a way of sucking you in
     
  12. Pauley

    Pauley Fapstronaut

    Yeah I can sit in YouTube for 10 hours straight.
     
  13. Neverfeelingdownagain

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    Jordan Peterson is your classic Center-Right/Stoic thinker/philosopher. I really agree with his views on masculinity and rejecting hedonism. I don’t really watch him anymore but he’s keeping men from becoming radicalized****
     
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  14. she-dernatinus

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    Not only that, have you seen this last video he posted where he was wearing a twitter suit ? It looks like to me, the guy completely lost his mind.
     
  15. silex_jedi

    silex_jedi Fapstronaut

    what lies exactly?
     
  16. silex_jedi

    silex_jedi Fapstronaut

    from the man himself source: YouTube The Roommates YouTube channel i cut some quirky vocal interferences:

    The Roommates: So what I've noticed that happens sometimes because of years of watching pornography, the men's sexual attraction become warped. And so what can a man whose sexual attraction to women has become warped to extreme ends do? [...] How can that man go back to now be attracted to you know, more natural looking women or women that can be around there [...]...

    Jordan Peterson: Deprivation is helpful [...]. I think it's reasonable to assume there's a novelty edge in pornography like there is in so many quasi addictive phenomena [...]. Because novelty is a sexual kick it has to stay novel and that means over time it's going to become more extreme... so that's not good.
    So how do you re-sensitize yourself in some sense? Well you stop. You stop... and then hopefully you recover and then you deprive yourself of that outlet let's say.
    And then you might say "well is that absolutely necessary maybe there is nothing wrong with pornography"... It's like well I don't know man like: have you every really made a guy who is proud of that? [...] that makes him feel like "I'm the guy I'm watching pornography and getting off" I don't believe anyone feels that! [...] maybe I'm wrong to me it's pretty cheap it's easy.
    [...] I say that knowing that (I believe) research evidence shows that if you introduce pornography into a community that rates of sexual crimes committed by men upon women actually decline. So there is perhaps some utility in the outlet. But that's a unidimensional analysis and doesn't take into account all the other effects of pornography (including the ones you described). I think that those are real... It makes sense that they're real you know cause it's super satiation.
    And it's a non trivial technological problem you know it's now possible for young men to look at more beautiful nude women in one day than any man has ever seen you prior to 10 years ago 20 years ago than any man in history has every seen that's not nothing, that's something. And to think that doesn't do anything to you like... NO that likely does something to you.
    So don't substitute the false for the real. and don't underestimate the utility of deprivation... You know what do we need to drive us forward to have the adventure of our life? you know well... Some deprivation that's for sure that heightens desire and drive. And maybe you need that maybe you're afraid to approach a woman well you remove part of your drive with pornography and so now you don't have the sexual urge to overcome that anxiety and so you stay timid for your entire life you know. Maybe not, but maybe!


    I hope you'll find something for you.
     
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  17. Pauley

    Pauley Fapstronaut

    Thanks, sounds reasonable! Who are the Roommates though?
     
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  18. silex_jedi

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    from their about section: "Hafeez and Chris present to you The Roommates. A channel for the everyday man. The Roommates is the everyday man’s guide to becoming the best version of himself by leveling up physically, emotionally, spiritually and financially."
     
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  19. fredisthebes

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    Peterson is clearly a smart guy, but he always comes across as pretty troubled as well (eg his recent addiction problems). As a modern lifestyle guru, he's a odd figure. A guy going through a very public middle age crisis, who talks like he is on the verge of tears a lot of the time. A soft-spoken, academic man working in a traditionally feminine field and selling self help techniques that I associate more with women's magazines (eg personality tests), than the ultra masculine advice associated with the wider manosphere (eg forget therapy and just go to the gym).
     
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  20. AbTheAb

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    LOL Thanks for the laugh :D Just saw it now. I am at a point where I can't even stand the sight of him so I don't really follow him, just every now and then it seems his shilling takes such new heights that I would get notice about it.

    Some think they have something on him and that's why he shills so blatantly as with his interview with Benajmin Netanyahu, but I am not sure if it's the drugs he has been on or what exactly, but either way, I guess they are probably trying to find or build another false father figure to promote for the disgruntled masses but until they do that, for now I suppose they can milk good old Peterson some more until he completely loses credibility.
     

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