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What is the difference between masturbation and real sex with your wife

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Ardis31, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. Ardis31

    Ardis31 Fapstronaut

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    Hello,

    I want to know the difference between masturbation and real sex with woman. Why masturbation is harmful while real sex is not ?!
     
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  2. UnitedWeStand

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    Masturbation isnt a harmful. Watching porn while masturbating does harm the brain and sex life.
     
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  3. Ardis31

    Ardis31 Fapstronaut

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    This is wrong .. I was masturbating during 12 years and I noticed that it did harm my body and my brain .. Now, I stopped masturbating 4 months ago and I am suffering from withdrawal symptoms.
     
  4. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    There are lots of different reasons for giving up masturbation, and each one will give you a different answer to your question. I gave up masturbation because I needed to quit porn and masturbation kept leading me back to porn in a way that sex with my wife did not.

    You want a simple answer to a question that just does not have a single answer, nor a simple one.
     
  5. UnitedWeStand

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    Every mammal does masturbating and doesnt have any negative effect on it. Lets not demonize a natural act because we got addicted to a drug. Its like saying using syringes is bad for you when it is used for medical reasons just because you are addicted to injecting heroin.
     
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  6. Teenager

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    I don't agree . Masturbation is really harmful .I've been masturbating without porn from last 4 years and now iam suffering from brain fog,rhinitus,restless legs,PE.Masturbation has really messed up my life .
     
  7. UnitedWeStand

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    Of course it can mess with you if you do it more that 5 times a day. But on a healthy number (say 2 a day) affect noone.
     
  8. Psalm27:1my light

    Psalm27:1my light Fapstronaut

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    It will still affect you. It’s not sex, it’s self pleasure. And 2x a day is a lot! I thought you were going to say 2x a week.
     
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  9. Twice a day is way too much. Masturbation on its own can be harmful if it's excessive. I'd say masturbating every 3 days or so is a good thing.
     
  10. No matter what you think, because it's your opinion, saying an addict will return to their drug is a terrible thing to do. I don't care though, because I'm finally overcoming my problem with porn and some nobody on the internet won't bring me down :) Good day!
     
  11. Ok.
     
  12. Are you done?
     
  13. B787-8

    B787-8 Fapstronaut

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    Dude for my perspective that sex with wife is healthy because in sex other hormones required, in masturbation you required 5seconds.
     
  14. UnitedWeStand

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    @StarRider Dont tell everyone a sex addict and try to explain everything through addiction. Masturbation is perfectly fine and natural. Of course excessive can drain you a bit but it wont kill you. Before high speed pornography people masturbated 2+ times a day on puberty and noone got ED.
     
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  15. Maramalade

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    I think We all agree Masturbating with porn is harmfull.
    As for just masturbating, I believe less amount of it, say 2 times a week as some of you mentioned, is not harmful. However, our brain cannot keep it like that, wants more thus do it multiple times. While we can't have sex everytime we want. So over thousands of years of evolution, our brain recognizes it as normal act rather than an addiction although the fact that having sex causes more dopamine release as other addictions. Moreover i watched one guy on youtube said scientifically brain functions differently while on sex and masturbation. Maybe that's why we want to masturbate much more tjan sex.

    Btw it's just my opinion guys.
     
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  16. UnitedWeStand

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    @StarRider This isnt what im trying to say here. I dont tell you to stop sharing your experience, in fact i embrace you to do this but your experience isnt the same to everyone here. Dont be harsh on your words and strict into thinking a different senario. Good luck on your journey, keep on sharing experience! Wish you the best! Also i dont love masturbation, i havent masturbated in 300 days actually!
     
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  17. I agree. In fact, I too am abstaining from masturbation, been doing it for 12 days at this point. I don't love masturbation either, like @StarRider would have you believe. He should seriously reconsider his position, going around telling real people with real problems that they're going to fail, especially surrounding an addiction like this which can definitely ruin someone's life, is not cool. People are not all the same, they have different needs and issues. It's ok if the mere act of masturbation is bad for you, but to go around saying everyone should stop doing it altogether when humans and other animals have been doing it since forever is silly. Masturbation, when used in moderation, is a great tool to destress, clear your head, just like coffee or alcohol. Of course, all these things can be harmful in excess.

    Instead of being preachy about how people should live their lives, why don't you focus solely on improving yourself (the whole thing of this forum, "get a new grip on life" and etc)?
     
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  18. UnitedWeStand

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    @StarRider As @khabastos said dont try to put people down, and focus on yourself. Being stricted on your routine against addiction can be fine but pushing this to other people as "the only way" of recovery is not cool. This forum is called "NoFap" yet it is a forum against high speed pornography and its negative effects as its founders said. Good luck
     
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  19. Just watch me reach 90 days :)
     
  20. It sounds like you like to call everyone an addict without actually knowing.
    No one is justifying addiction. We are explaining that there is nothing inherently wrong or unnatural, or even addictive about masturbation. Just like food is not inherently addictive. I eat food 3 times a day but I'm not addicted to it. Someone else might actually be addicted to food and they feel unable to control when they binge on it.
     
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