What is the difference between masturbation and real sex with your wife

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Ardis31, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. In order to do that you will probably have to get rid of video cameras, paper, writing utensils, and art in general

    Also @UnitedWeStand as an example you give that 2 times a day is healthy. But I think we should clarify that 2 times a day might be ok for some people, but it is certainly problematic for others.
     
  2. StarRider

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    Video cameras are like guns. They are fine until you put (naked) humans in front of it.
     
  3. UnitedWeStand

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    @FellatiousD Of course we are different. If i masturbate twice i end up drain, but i know people who are fine after m twice. We are all different i guess
     
  4. You can't put chains on people's imagination
     
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  5. StarRider

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    Imagination doesn't harm humans like porn production does.
     
  6. Yeah but it's why porn exists. Some people like sex and aren't always able to have it or witness it in person, so they draw it or record it

    You don't have to be so zealous about this
     
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  7. UnitedWeStand

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    @FellatiousD no need to be offensive to someone who dont agree with. @StarRider has his opinion and we should respect it.
     
  8. mr.incognito

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    Porn exists because of masturbation. Art exists because of imagination. Your opinion has already been defeated in other threads. You can say that you still personally like porn and masturbation but you can't defend or promote them any more. Your arguments are redundant anyway because the mainstream opinion is that porn and masturbation are healthy, so we have already heard everything you have to say for our entire lives and we're sick of it, while you don't have that problem since everywhere you go you find other people like you. It's your side that is zealous, since it's everywhere, otherwise there would be an equality of opinion and we would have a balance of arguments from both sides everywhere not just this niche website which still isn't on our side.

    As I said in the other thread no healthy straight man wants to masturbate to porn, they do it as a substitute for having sex with beautiful women, but now you write "Some people like sex and aren't always able to have it or witness it in person" that's called a substitution and it's sub optimal, that is, it's inferior to some other option which could be sex or any number of other things. Again "some people like sex and aren't always able to have it", no man is able to regularly have sex with 11 women who look like models and actresses, let alone twice a day, if something isn't possible in real life then the simulation of it is an anomaly, the body isn't made to handle it.

    That you wrote this shows that you don't know what you are talking about, it also shows you to be a post modernist whether you realize it or not. I actually don't even know where to begin because it is so wrong. Video cameras don't lead to porn or cause porn. Pretty much no straight man masturbates to erotic literature, that's what females do with fanfiction, they are so-called autochlorissexual or aegosexual - I call it scared to have sex, and shame and fear of the body, racism too - a condition which exists because female sexuality is cultural and easily manipulated. And "art in general" is not porn, although there are genres of low grade art which are mostly pornographic - art and porn being separate things - few men masturbate to actual art: the Sistine Chapel, Schubert's Unfinished Symphony, illustrations by Howard Pyle, poems of Emily Bronte etc.
     
  9. fishfoody

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    In my thinking sex with wife is about giving and receiving. It is love. It is the most intimate moment in two people's live. sex is also a human purpose of having an offspring.

    Masturbation is about pleasuring yourself and yourself only. Your brain thinks you are having sex with potential woman but in reality you are mating with your pixels on screen. that's why you feel bad and incomplete as soon as you done fapping.
     
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