What is the effect of P without MO?

I would say so. Porn is what messes up your brain. If anything the question should be reversed. MO is not the problem, P is. It's when you reward yourself with MO while watching P where you disbenefit yourself the most

 

I doubt it.

 

When you can find a control group of guys who watch porn without MO, let me know.

 

Its actually playing with fire, you can relapse very easy.

 

Tl;dr - Dangerous game to play. I would NOT advise it. It sucks but we are in this position BECAUSE of our P use. There are some things in life that you have to be an adult about and this is one of those things. P has stripped us of our purity and completely distorted our reasoning for M and O (among other things). It will continue to do so.
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In theory it would spike your dopamine levels consistently and I feel like it would also improve focus and short term (maybe long term) determination. The thing is that it makes you SO uncomfortable that it is incredibly difficult to do. Damn near impossible to do it long term.

I've tried and the longest I used P without MO was about a month. I can't even remember how I felt because once you relapse that first time it is a WRAP. The binge is going to take over harder than ever. THAT's when you start delving into weird stuff and thoughts. I've experienced this. Tbh I think i'm at this low point BECAUSE I tried to balance P without MO knowing full and well I hadn't made any recovery from P, M, or O in the first place.

I've tried to separate the 3 impulses but it NEVER works. It may work for one night, on the rare occasion a couple of days, even rarer a WEEK. I've gotten to a month with just P ONCE. and it was in October or November when my finances were good.

You're basically asking yourself can you watch P for the rest of your life without M or O. Putting it into perspective that sounds extremely uncomfortable and painful. Don't do it to yourself, take it from someone who has tried

 

I know how you feel. You're going to have to give up P because you've linked it so closely with MO. That's the whole point. People who haven't linked P with MO this strongly have no problem with it. For us, THIS is our moment to put on our big boy pants and do something to improve ourselves.

What are you interested in? It's time to focus on a goal. If there is no goal it's time to MAKE one. That's the only way we can fight the impulses. The idle mind is the devil's workshop. I know it sounds trash lol but the only way for us to get better is to CONSTANTLY be at work on something.

 

So when you are saying you feel the need to fap, just go do something else? Perhaps go work on your car or something like that?