What is the purpose of sex? What is sex and what is it for?

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  1. KlaipedaLT

    KlaipedaLT New Fapstronaut

    What is the purpose of sex? What is sex and what is it for?

    Sex and sexual activity is both the simplest and most complex of all activities.

    In a recent book Caroline Simon uses the example of going to get your eyes tested. When the optometrist puts different glasses or lenses in front of your eyes, the same thing can look a little different, similarly people see the purpose of sex differently depending on the lens they are looking through. And the lens each person uses is influenced by their belief system about sex.

    "pleasure" lens: sees sexual activity as something that is fun and satisfying without love, commitment or marriage. Sexual activity is something that is done to satisfy a personal desire for the intense feelings of arousal and orgasm. It is selfish, me-focused attitude.

    "power" lens: using another person as a sexual object. Using sex to get attention or control.

    "romance" lens: driven by feelings of romance or eros, which when fades, ends up in break-up, rejection, heart-ache.

    "procreation" lens: to create life and to obey God as He commanded in Genesis 1:20: "be fruitful, increase in number, fill the earth."

    "commitment/bonding" lens: sexual activity bonds a man and a woman together. Not just physical act, it is emotional, psychological and spiritual.

    Sexual activity has an impact on people around us, family, friends, and the community and society we live in. When sexual activity is practiced in a marriage context, all the lenses come together in a holistic way.

    What does God have to do with sex?

    Many people believe God doesn't want us to have sex. Because sex is enjoyable they think God doesn't want us to have sex. Is this true? Is God against pleasure? Is God against sex? Satan's most basic lies is that godliness or living how God wants us to live, is not a happy life. The truth is exactly the opposite.

    Godliness is joy. When people follow God's way of living, they show they trust him and believe that following him is the best life possible.

    People who think God is against sex respond in two ways:

    1) One way is to believe we are not sexual beings. This does not work because this is not true. God made us sexual beings and we cant escape sexual feelings and thoughts. God has chosen some people to remain single and celibate (no sexual relations). This is considered a gift from God (1 Corinthians 7:7-8). For everyone else, God's plan is marriage so that the sexual gift he created in us can be used as he designed (1 Corinthians 7:9).

    2) The other extreme is to believe sex, but reject God, to ignore God's design for sex. People who act this way have sex when they have a desire for sex. This only works temporarily and never in the long-run. God designed sexuality to operate within a lifelong marriage of one man and one woman with a supporting family of the church, the community of believers.

    The problem with both of these extremes is their starting point, they both think God is against sex. Therefore people believe we have to make a choice to believe God and reject sex or to reject God and believe in sex. Do you believe this? This is a lie from Satan.

    The Bible has good news about sex. God created it! He is not against it! He made sex to be part of the bigger picture of families and communities. God's plan for sex is the best because God invented sex! Our job is to understand his plan and follow it.

    The Bible on God and Sex

    God made us to enjoy relationships with Himself and with one another. Human lives are built on healthy relationships with God and with each other, built on trust, honesty, safety and love.

    In the beginning God created humans. We did not always exist. There was a time when humans did not exist. There was never a time when God did not exist, God has always existed as Creator. He chose to create humans. We are creatures that He created.

    In the beginning God created Adam and Eve. He made male and female in His image. Man and woman is created in the image of God.

    God made the first man and woman and they were perfect for each other!

    We can imagine they were very beautiful! Beauty is good.

    We can imagine they were completely comfortable with one another and they were both happy with one another. They knew that they were made for each other and they enjoyed one another.

    We can expect they were in love with one another, perfectly attracted by one another, and completely committed to one another. God wanted it that way. True love between husband and wife and between humans and God in the Garden of Eden.

    Then God gave them the command in Genesis 1:25 to have children, "fill the earth, take control of it." God commanded them to have sex. They didn't even have to get naked, they were already naked and they were comfortable with it (Genesis 2:25).

    God gave humans the gift of sex to make them one flesh (Genesis 2:24), to bring them together and for them to create new life.

    Sex, Sin and Satan

    God wanted Adam and Eve to stay in perfect relationship with one another and with Him, so he said: rule the world, make it yours, just don't eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:17).

    Satan deceived Eve and Adam followed his wife and they both disobeyed God. When this happened, "the eyes of both were opened" (Genesis 3:7).

    They knew they were both naked and they were not comfortable to be naked with each other anymore. They covered themselves with leaves and tried to hide from God (Genesis 3:7-8).

    God judged Adam and Eve and threw them out of the garden of Eden (Genesis 3:23). They no longer enjoyed the perfect relationship with God and with each other. Everything in God's creation was now fallen, and that included sex (Genesis 3:14-19).

    Today we are still living in the shadow of the first rebellion against God. Instead of being confident in our identity as male and female, people are inter-sexed, transgendered, transexual.
    In place of the pure sexual desire between male and female we now have a selfish desire that is there to make us feel good. And then some people turn this desire upside down and become gay and lesbian or want many other sexual practices and desires (Romans 1:27).

    We worry about our bodies instead of happily accepting them. Instead of caring for each other, we put each other down and think only of ourselves. Sex becomes something to use for manipulation and control and not for keeping a husband and wife together. Sex is abused and the result is destruction in relationships, communities, society (John 10:10).

    Sex Redeemed

    Here is the good news. God knows that we are fallen but he loves us and died on the cross to show us he loves us. If you believe with all your heart that Jesus died for you and resurrected from the dead, then he will give you a new life. He will give you the Holy Spirit and make you a new person. You will think differently because you will see everything from a new perspective (the mind of Christ) and you will act differently, based on God's word, the Bible. The Bible teaches us how to see God, ourselves, others and the world in God's way, and how to act in line with the new way of thinking. God gives us a choice. We can live God's way or we can choose not to live God's way. If we choose number two, you may wonder why in the long-run you are left empty and without any life.

    Living God's way sexually by keeping sex for marriage may seem too difficult but developing the strength is like going to the gym. It's about practice, after a while it becomes easier and you see the positive effects in your body and mind.

    That is why it is important to go to church. Church is people who believe in Jesus and who are learning to see the world God's way. They are there to help each other make godly choices in everything including sex.

    Sexual Desire
    God's gift or Satan's tool?

    The world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever. - 1 John 2:17

    Q: where would you be without sexual desire?
    A: you probably wouldn't be anywhere!

    If not for sexual desire, people would not have sex. If your parents did not have sex, you would not be here!

    Sexual desire is a feeling, an urge, an appetite. It is focused on yourself. It is saying, I need, I want, I must have. Sexual desire is inward-focused and self-satisfying. This doesn't necessarily make it wrong, it can be very good, but we need to be aware of this distinction.

    Sexual desire is an important and wonderful part of being human. Environment, culture, and personal choice affect what turns your sexual desire on and off. An important part of development is learning to manage sexual desire.

    God who enjoys giving gifts to his people made sex enjoyable and so he gave us sexual desire. It is part of the creation he made which is good.

    The book, Song of Songs in the middle of the Bible is a book of sexual poetry. The book is focused on marriage and a wedding is at the centre of the book (Songs 3:6-11). But the point is that it is unashamedly sexual (read Songs 4:9-11). Take the Bible and read this book together with some of your friends. What do we learn? God celebrates sex and sexual desire in the context of marriage.
    Love has different forms, romantic love, friendship love, family love. Agape love is the highest form of love and the only source is God himself and his children. We who are God's children have this love (and truth) from God and it is this love (and truth) that we need to share to the world. We have what everybody needs!

    Decades ago and in other societies still today, a young man and woman develop in a controlled and gradual manner under the guiding eyes of parents and other adults. This process is unfamiliar with many people today. In our fast-paced world, who has the time for building a relationship? Everything today moves fast.

    Modern society tells us that we can and we should satisfy our desires right away. Desire food? Go to fast-food restaurant. Desire information? Google it! Desire sex? There is porn on the internet. It is always fast, free and always available. No problem.

    We need to have the courage to practice and develop a pattern of non-sexual intimacy.
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  2. crushurcravings

    crushurcravings Fapstronaut

    I don't believe there is a god.
  3. and i don't believe there is anything like infrared light. but it is really exist.
    its good for you if you don't believe in god. what we believe has nothing to do with reality. reality never ask us anything before creating.GOD is always there you believe it or not.
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  4. crushurcravings

    crushurcravings Fapstronaut

    I'm not even sure what you're saying :D But I'm sure I disagree entirely.
  5. Back in the day, I used to be a Christian and was pretty involved in that religion, but then I came to understand that all that had happened is that man had just put God in a box and created their own conception of God. Humans created this idea of God through Christianity, that in my view is incredibly incorrect.

    Obviously, I'm no longer a Christian, but it is mainly the Christian view in the first place which influences other people to have a warped and incorrect view of God to begin with. There are many unloving ways in which people portray God in Christianity (no offence to the Christian religion). It isn't the people I hate, but the viewpoints of Christianity, as a whole, as a religion, I couldn't disagree with more and there are so many contradictions in the bible and about God that it is laughable.

    I spent a long time studying the bible (I've read the whole entire thing already) and have come across many interesting things that prove otherwise about God.

    First of all, many things about the Bible have been changed and misinterpreted. This is also something I could write a whole essay about.

    Since leaving the Christian faith, I went on my own spiritual journey. I freed myself and allowed myself to look at every different perspective (something that most Christians are afraid to do). I have since found many beautiful secrets about the universe, which maybe over time I'd share, little by little, depending upon peoples openness and willingness to investigate things further, the ability to be open minded, so to speak.

    My view, is that there is a God, but She (I say She, because God is an entity with both male AND female qualities, which it even expresses in the original, proper version of the bible) is just so far away from the idea that Christian present.

    One of the only ways for someone to prove that there is a God, is to have some of God's Divine Love enter your heart, and I've had this happen to me. In fact, it happens occasionally. You just have to ask for it.

    So just as a taster, one of the biggest misconceptions in the bible is that there is a Hell. There is not. There is not a place in the universe where a human can go and burn for eternity. Much of what was written in the bible was metaphorical. Not literal. Hell is metaphorical state in one's soul. For example, there is a place in the spirit world called "The Hells", but it is not a place of torment. Everyone, when they die, has an opportunity to progress into higher and more loving dimensional spaces. There are places in the spirit world that literally have matter in them, houses, lands etc... No one has to spend eternity anywhere. God is MUCH more merciful and graceful than what is portrayed in the bible. The concept that God would allow for someone to burn in hell for eternity is one of the biggest lies ever told and actually contradicts God's love. Also, there is no Satan. He does not exist, and why God would even allow a devil to exist in the first place is beyond me.

    Another lie is that God hates homosexuality. God literally created gay souls, AS WELL as heterosexual souls. Both were created for variety in the universe. Every single individual has a soul mate (and this leads onto the point of the OP's question about sex).

    Obviously, if you're gay, then you have a gay soul mate, if you're straight, then you were created to have a straight soul mate. It's as simple as that. It is we who complicate things.

    I could spend all day breaking down each lie in the bible, and to be frank, I really didn't want to reply to this post, but when people continue to persist in bringing up religious things, or theories from the bible that are not true, then what choice do I have? There is only so long that I can remain silent. It is just getting too much...

    There was no snake in the garden that literally spoke to Adam and Eve (who's real names are actually Amon and Aman). Yes, there was a first human couple who wanted to be like God, which led to the degradation of the human soul, thus, the reason the earth is hell right now, but it didn't happen how the bible expressed it did. The snake was a metaphor for the battle which goes on in side the human soul. There was no literal snake, just the same way there is no literal Satan. Back then, there were many poets, and magnificent writers. It was just how they decided to interpret things.

    God is INFINITE, and all Christians do is try to box God into one book. You cannot box an infinite thing, because it is beyond OUR comprehension in the first place. And also, anything that labels God to having any unloving characteristics automatically becomes false.

    Another huge misconception is about Jesus (Yeshua Ben Joseph) as well. This is one of the biggest ones. Jesus was a real man that once lived on earth, but he was not God, neither God's son. Because of Jesus' soul condition and how developed he was in love, he was able to become ONE WITH God, but was NOT God. That was one of the biggest things in the bible that was written wrong. Everyone has the ability to develop enough love within them to become one with God, not to be God, but to become ONE WITH. Yes, he was killed and hung on a tree back then, but not for the reason of dying for people's sin. He was killed because his message of truth was changing the economic system, so the government decided to kill him. There were many other reasons for his death as well, but perhaps I could go into that another time..

    Anyway, we were created to ONLY have sex with our soul mate. Everyone has one. Obviously, orgasms are real, and they are already proof that sex is supposed to be enjoyed, but only with one person. Obviously one of the purposes is to create more life, but that's not the only meaning for sex.

    I could go on and on, but I'll leave it here and anyone is free to ask questions.
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  6. KingRecover17

    KingRecover17 Fapstronaut

    Why not?
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  7. crushurcravings

    crushurcravings Fapstronaut

    Lack of evidence
  8. axy_david

    axy_david Fapstronaut

    I don't believe in darwinism.
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  9. crushurcravings

    crushurcravings Fapstronaut

    There's plenty evidence for evolutionary biology if that's what you're refering to. *Facepalm*
  10. axy_david

    axy_david Fapstronaut

    There's plenty evidence against evolutionary biology *Facepalm*
    You can argue with this engineer as long as you want, you'll still loose. Seek the truth and it will be revealed to you.
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  11. crushurcravings

    crushurcravings Fapstronaut

    We share 98% of the same DNA as chimpanzees and 95% the same DNA of the majority of the remaining ape-like creatures - They're our cousins. It is so much more than being descended from a common ancestor that is now exstinct. Every living creature on this planet has an evolutionary connection between one another. Evolution is the reason we get addicted to porn and masturbation even. The primitive part of our brain hasn't been developed to the point where it can distinguish between a screen and reality (which is also why sexual dysfunctions may occur in some porn users).
  12. axy_david

    axy_david Fapstronaut

    Amazing how people can talk their way to spiritual independence.
    98% fact is false, actually it's 98% in the best case depending in what you're comparing. A more accurate number would be about 95% when insertions and deletions on the DNA tree are included.
    95% DNA similarity amounts to 150,000,000 DNA base pairs that are different between them! That's still a lot of difference, and while it can be seen as a probable common ancestor it does not explain why all the species that are supposed to back up this theory are "extinct".
    This is not the main problem with evolution tho, one the main issues with it are the moral issues.
    According to evolution humans should not have any kind of morality. It does not help with survival at all, as you have been eager to point out with our brains, they are not very evolved.
    Heck, according to the evolution theory, humans should not even philosophise, that is definitely against survival because you procrastinate instead of ensuring your species survive.
    Maybe I should delve into more details, maybe not, how's this going to help with your survival anyway?
  13. Temujin

    Temujin Guest

    I understand where you are coming from. Though that doesn't discredit the DNA evidence. A mystery it may be but they are a separate issue surely.

    Edit: I'm discussing religion on the internets. Breaking my rule of no religion, no politics.
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  14. Lightningbob1964

    Lightningbob1964 Fapstronaut

    YAY! A religous argument. We might as well stop right now because nothing (or very little) will be accomplished by arguing about this subject. Few people approach the subject with an open mind and we would really need a live dialog to accomplIsh anything. For the record I don't know there isn't a god. I just don't believe there is. Also evolution probably happened as Darwin described that isn't proof there is no god.

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