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What is your Contingency Plan in Case of a Slip?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Fenix Rising, Feb 18, 2019.

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  1. Fenix Rising

    Fenix Rising Fapstronaut

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    I was wandering if you have pre prepared plan what to do immediately after you slip. Please share it with us, if you happen to have one in place.

    From my personal observations having a slip (PMO once) is most dangerous when it happens after longer no PMO streak, especially when rebooting in monk mode. So I came up with a plan to have prepacked travel backpack and if a slip happens I immediately buy bus/train/plane ticket and travel away for a few days so I can't relapse. This saved me once before… It's all good but the plan has a major flaw; Sometimes it's hard to get a few days off work on zero notice. That's why I'm very interested to hear what is your emergency plan.
     
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  2. Nugget9

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    You can still relapse as long as your have access to your wanker. I think just bearing it and having the courage to keep going and change things if you relapse is the way to go. Good luck.
     
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  3. ZenAF

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    Spend more time figuring out why you want to "slip" in the first place rather than figuring out how to escape from yourself.
     
  4. bigboibez

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    Don't slip. Whatever it takes. Even if it means no internet.
     
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  5. Fenix Rising

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    Not slipping is great and all, but I'm talking what if it happens scenario. Don't tell me you have never slipped while fighting this addiction. It's like saying you'll never drink alcohol in your life while having debilitating hangover the day after a party. I think it's irresponsible not to have same kind of firm pre planed contingency plan in place when shit hits the fan. For example. My best hardmode streak lasted +200 days. If I had emergency plan in place to prevent me from having full blown relapse after I slipped, enabling me to continue on no PMO path immediately, minimal or no progress would have been lost. Slipping once vs slipping 300 times makes a huge difference when one is battling with addictive compulsive behavior. Every neuro scientist will tell you habits are all about repetitions. One slip after half a year being "sober" doesn't mean a lot, 300 slips means all progress is lost as your destructive habit is back with vengeance. So why not have a plan how to stay at one slip when shit happens?
     
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  6. ZenAF

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    You're 100% right, that continuous relapses are far worse than relapsing a few times. Not just in terms of conditioning, but also because you keep reactivating your reward system when you start a new streak and then you disappoint yourself. After a while you lose so much trust that it gets really hard to come out of that ditch.

    But you're asking for reasons on why NOT to have a contingency plan. Simple: You're giving yourself a subconscious message when you do that. Your actions, like preparing a backpack, have meaning to you. In this case the meaning is: "When I relapse someday I'll need this." Simply by preparing the backpack you already tell yourself that in your life it is possible that you will relapse. That means you admit to yourself that you're not through with PMO. You admit that there's a part of you that still wants it and because you know that part is powerful (another thing you unconsciously admit since you have to flee) you have to be prepared.

    I can't speak on abstaining from masturbation and orgasms. But as I see it they are separate issues from pornography. I do know however how to get rid of porn. The key is to stop wanting it. Not to just abstain from it for a long period of time, that just changes your neurobiology to some degree, but it doesn't change what you secretly want. We don't forget what porn is and how much fun it used to be, even if we abstain for 5 years. If you still on some level believe that it has value, you'll always be in danger of relapse. You need to change what it means to you. You need to make that last bit of ignorance within you understand, that porn will never be worth it again. That it may have offered you something once, when you were younger and naiver, but not anymore. You need to be able to look at it and understand why you don't want it. It's not about the arousal, it's about the fulfillment of your sexuality, your relationship to the feminine (assuming you're straight) and how porn is in every way inadequate for that. Once you stop wanting it, you won't have to fear to relapse, relapse is not an option anymore, because you know yourself better. No need to run. At least not from porn. As I said I don't know anything about conquering masturbation and orgasms, that's a different topic. I heard cold showers help and are generally cheaper than plane tickets. ;)
     
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  7. Fenix Rising

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    Thank you for very profound reply. A lot of food for thought… In my case compulsive binge MB is bigger problem than pornography. I had problem with binge MB years before I even encountered P. I've stopped MBing because I just can't do it in moderation. It looks like I crave for that prolonged dopamine hit. It's like drug to me. I've no problem abstaining from PMO when seeing xxx movie clip or nude photo. But every time I've tried to implement healthy MB habit into my life after reboot all hell broke loose. I'm one MO away going from person being in full control of my actions to someone on autopilot. Single MB attempt soon leads me to hours of binge MB followed by hours long binge PMO streak which can last for months before I completely exhausted come to my senses again. I want to prevent that from happening to me even again. Changing environment and walking for a few days helps me break this loop. It's like pressing restart button. I'm in complete control again when I come home from a hike.
     
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  8. ZenAF

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    That's a great milestone.

    I have a masturbation problem too, I know because it sometimes feels compulsive. I don't deal with it yet, I'm dealing with porn first, also I'm lucky to be in a good relationship right now so I only masturbate maybe four times a month to my fantasy. But I know that same as with porn, masturbation and edging in particular seems to give me access to something transcendental. An energy of some sorts. Like a secret headspace, my own little world only I have access to. I know I hold it sacred to some degree, because it's been with me since childhood and I see it as part of what I understand to be my sexuality. So I'm afraid to lose it. I'm afraid of being left in a void, with nothing left but normal everyday life.
    It's also attached to my pride because it gives me independence. If masturbation is gone, I'm dependent on an other person for sexual satisfaction. That bothers me a lot, I'd like to be free.

    I don't have answers to these knots yet. But I guess they will be about sacrifice, to make a different life possible with deeper relationships.
     
  9. Well said.
     
  10. safa61947

    safa61947 Fapstronaut

    I use the 5 step method:
    1. Take a shower
    2. 20 push ups
    3. Eat some and drink water
    4. Go to sleep

    Got this idea from u/JangoFett212 from Reddit.
     
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