What will happen when we die?

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  1. Nuhope

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    Sure, He is love. God takes the good ones in heaven cause of His love, and the bad ones damn themselves. It is not God who damns anybody, it is the man or the woman who say their final No to God. And that is hell. Because every human need God in total, saying No to God means not to have Him - because God and Heaven (=be with Him) is voluntary. Nobody is forced to be with or be without Him. It is our voluntary decision. So to be with God (heaven) or be without Him (hell) is not a reward or a penalty - it is our free will.

    I believe that we have a freewill to say yes or no to God. I condemn nobody because I do not know what the subjective situation of the acting man or woman was. I really don't. But I know that I have a freewill, it is no illusion. I know that sometimes I used it for good, and sometimes I used it against God. If we says the final Yes to God, we reply His love and His love can take us in full without rejecting Him. If we says the final No to God, we don't reply His love and say Yes to the distance to Him and this painful distance is that what the catholic church calls hell (I think the orthodox too). Our final decision is for eternity.

    I am a catholic christ (a bad one, but I try to get better). The three children of Fatima told there is a hell, Saint Faustina told there is an eternal hell and Don Bosco warned his pupils of beeing lost forever. Pope Benedict, the predecessor of Pope Franc, wrote it and it is part of the official catholic catechisme.

    I know there a lot of theologians who tell there is no (eternal) hell or the hell is empty. The bible tells differently. I agree with the official catholic religion.

    It is not about fear or the intention to control. It is about understanding that life has an absolut meaning and we should take the time, we have, to say our Yes to God forever.

    Your video tells the belief of heaven and hell would combine the eternal destiny to the religion they have. No, that is wrong. Maybe there are some theologians who tell so, but it is not the official catholic religion. The eternal destiny depends on your moral decisions relating to that what you think is right or wrong. Even the term of sin is defined subjetivly: If you think something is ok (even it is objectivly a sin) and you do it - you don't sin. But if you think something is a sin and you do it (even it is objectivly no sin) yo sin. So your video does not convince me.

    But whatever it is - let's get out of porn addiction. Whatever we will meet after death, it is better to have reduced PMO to as zero as possible.
     
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  2. Nuhope

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    Goed does not deny anyone, it is the human beeing who denies God or replies the love of God.

    First sentence: The video starts saying, the religion would tell, if someone beliefs in the wrong religion, he or she goes to hell. The catholic religion tells, if you accept the love of God, if you say Yes to Him, you will come to Him. If you deny His love, if you deny God, if you say No to Him, you distance yourself from God, meaning you go down to hell, because distance from God is Hell.
     
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    @SuperPowers: I never meant to stress you. Let's focus on getting out of our addiction, maybe we're leaving hell that way.
     
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    No, you never stressed me :)
     
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