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Whats the end goal?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Absentsounds, Oct 22, 2017.

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  1. Absentsounds

    Absentsounds Fapstronaut

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    So after 30 plus days of NoFap I have a good feeling I can live without porn. The urges are still there but I know it will be beneficial to me if I quit it for good.

    I want to start seeing progress and if I do that would be awesome. To people who start seeing benefits, do you just never masturbate again? I feel like masturbation can't be bad if its natural and not with porn. It just seems like a lot of people on here are encouraging to not masturbate at all.
     
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  2. Absentsounds

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    So you are never going to masturbate again?
     
  3. Never masturbating again is what you are supposed to do.when you pmo one time at any point in your streak It tends to repeat again,And then youre addicted again
     
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  4. I am thinking of 365 days of no masturbation and then I will see if I want to go back. Think of yourself as an addict that is not thinking straight and is telling himself "when I get better I will be able to smoke crack again with no problems".

    Just do your reboot and when you have clarity you will be able to make the right decison.
     
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  5. Kexas23

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    I honestly can't imaging going back to PMO. My goal is to get my counter up to 120 - 150 days, which should be close to a full reboot so that I can end my PIED.
     
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  6. I think the end goal is to have it really sink in that porn is a bad thing similar to drinking salt water to quench a thirst. Before rebooting I might have thought this -- especially after PMOing -- but I didn't truly believe it all the time. When I truly see and believe that triggers and porn no longer have any place in my life, then that will be the end -- whenever it happens, no matter how long it takes...
     
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  7. seaguy44

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    With 52 days in, the healing just barely barely is starting.

    People say that 90 day is when the healing starts to do what it’s supposed to be doing . I have seen few posts lately that people are now aiming for 120 days, instead of 90 days.

    My healing is completed less than 40 days away? No. It’s way too soon
     
  8. HacKadi

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    I dont think I will never masturbate again. That seems unrealistic to me, but I will reduce it drastically by having regular sex, thats the main goal. Although Im not going to do so for a loooong time until levels of dopamin related to porn reduce, Im never gonna masturbate fantasising to porn or even fantasising at all. Thats the main issue here: the seek for overwhelming stimulus instead of natural ones.
     
  9. Evig Faith

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    I always felt sex was more valuable without a PMO lifestyle, so it's my personal goal to abstain from it in general. Just take it one day at a time though, but I doubt 30 days or even 90 days will be enough to fully recover.
     
  10. jeffnofapp

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    Everyone's individual circumstances are different. Some people maybe try to add M into their goals again eventually, others don't. Some choose to never M again, and the intimacy with a partner is the only way they will choose to experience O. For some, M is part of a healthy life. For others, it's a gateway back to the hell of Porn or compulsive/out of control M.

    Me personally, I am not sure WHAT I can handle. No M ever again seems like a daunting challenge. But no Porn ever again? That seems reasonable. I do have a sneaking suspicion that my desire to M has more to do with wanting to avoid my feelings than it is about thinking M is about being healthy. :}
     
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  11. Back.to.Roots

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    "M" may work alone for sometimes but evintually it will lead in a certain point to watch P or at least look at hot "objects" around you.
    In my opinion this urge is built in us, and we cannot as a healthy men get rid of it, this is built to make families, take responsibility and care for others with love, and this how life continues... That's why, serving this purpose will make our life easy.
     
  12. jeffnofapp

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    I don't disagree. It's only amnesia that would ever lead me to think, oh, I can manage M THIS time around! But yes, eventually it always ends up pushing me to P down the road. P and M are totally intertwined in my neuropathways.
     
  13. Pranav1486

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    hello mates, this is even about no-0 in no_PMO. it is more strict on avoid Orgasm in sex with someone..
    just no-PM wasting time with self touching cause other problems in life
     
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  14. Pranav1486

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    what is my end goal? here is good question.. hmm
    no_P- to take more time in watching something productive/study ccie end of 2017
    no_M- to avoid wild imagination and channelize to work, get social- make 5 new friends
    noo-0- connect more with partner and prolong sex duration and ENJOY :)- make my partner shift with me by end of 2017

    goal with no end date is fantasy, so added time line
     
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  15. Absentsounds

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    I am talking just masturbation in general not masturbating to porn.
     
  16. Absentsounds

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    Porn is definitely a bad thing. However, I don't believe masturbation is a terrible thing if it is natural and not to porn.
     
  17. Absentsounds

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    Isn't fantasizing without using an image or video natural though?
     
  18. I think I can agree with this. IMO masturbation would be fine if one doesn't have a partner, of if the partner isn't available for sex for whatever reason -- physical or mental.
     
  19. HacKadi

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    I could be wrong, but I think that it is a dangerous practice that could lead to amore extrem fantasy and again to porn.
     
  20. seaguy44

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    I absolutely agree! Urges are built in us to make us start families. It’s impossible to get rid of it. So use it as we should be doing - sex with women to start families. Biologically speaking, that’s what urges are for.

    People think urges will be gone forever. Wrong. It will always be in you forever. Always. Monks still have urges. They just don’t act out on it
     
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