Where does the energy go?

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  1. Steppingintotheunkown

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    This is a question iv been thinking about for some time. When we masturbate we are loosing energy, we see the pure white liquid and we feel drained. According to the 1st law of thermodynamics energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another. When we have sex we are exchanging energy with our partner. But when we are masturbating we are expelling our life force and energy into a tissue. So where does this energy go?
     
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  2. Mixolydian

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    Questions like these are fun. Sometimes they make you consider things you may not have previously. Alright, I'll try to answer, but while I do, I make no claims on whether or not life force exists. For the sake of the topic, I'll assume it does out of an attempt to be openminded, not that I'm closeminded to the idea at all. Let's also accept the idea that your life force is semen in a physical form, just for fun-sies.

    To start, this question assumes that the 1st law of thermodynamics is talking about spiritual energy at all. I'm not sure if Rudolf Clausius was talking about that since this would also assume that spiritual energy works in a criteria similar to thermodynamic processes... which I highly doubt.

    Many regard sex as a highly spiritual act and there may or may not be truth to this claim, but let's say there is. So if semen is a man's life force in physical form being expended out into anywhere but a woman, and we accept the unlikeliness of spiritual energy obeying the 1st law of thermodynamics... (since I don't know about you and sure, assumptions are a danger to logic, but I'd speculate that anything spiritual might obey some weird laws) coupled with Taoist\hermetic teachings (can't recall which one exactly), I'd speculate that the energy, due to being manifested in a physical form, probably does get destroyed and through masturbating, you're wasting a precious commodity on something meaningless and harmful.

    I think many spiritual teachings/religions regard masturbation as a big no-no. Perhaps that's why. We could also speculate that the law of equivalent exchange is valid (and no, I'm not talking about Fullmetal Alchemist, I mean that you can't create something from nothing, which is true), so perhaps this could also mean that in order to give life, you need to take some of your own.

    Highly speculative, though. I am assuming a lot of things are true here and fully admit I can't substantiate most of the stuff I said. :emoji_sweat_smile:

    (Also congrats on 32 days :D)
     
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  3. Red Riot

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    Is far more easier than you think. Testosterone is a hormone which several functions, depending on which cellular tissue it acts on. For example, it can be used to secrete dopamine after sex (or masturbation) or to increase the muscular gain (Some woman athletes inject themselves testosterone for this purpose). It also regulates the libido. Think of it like a booster.

    Our body is programmed to extract energy from food. After descomposing food, our body have some mechanisms, that allows it to obtain the molecule from which we extract energy, a molecule called ATP (Adenosin-TriPhospate). And from breaking this electrical link we obtain our true energy. The energy contained in that link, is transfered to another molecule to make a new link, and transforming it into a new molecule, one that that can fulfill its intended purpose.
    Just a brief introduction of how energy works on our bodies.

    Our body is naturally programmed to produce a certain amount of testosterone. When we masturbate, we use it (mainly) to secrete dopamine, the happiness hormone. Dopamine affects several areas in the brain, which affects it rewiring and reprogramming it, to oversimplify. That is what causes addiction.
    Body will produce more testosterone, and certain parts of our brain, over time, will get used to consume it almost all for itself. Moreover, just by producing testosterone, we consume energy. It's like a positive feedback loop: the more your brain consume, the more your body thinks we need, the more your body produces... That's why after stopping masturbating for a week, our testosterone levels increase (as it is not been used), and then it gets back to normal (as it estabilizes). Urges appear when our brain, which thinks of masturbation as a need, doesn't get their usual sexual relief.

    We don't magically obtain more energy. We just stop wasting the amount we have and use it in a more efficient way, and reprogram our brain back to normal, to a state when it didn't consume it so much.

    That's the reason why the best way to avoid urges, is to do things, specially doing exercise. Because we find useful and healthy ways to consume that energy.

    THIS IS JUST AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION, IT'S FAR MORE COMPLICATED. I just tried to answer your question in a non-technical way. I hope you find it useful
     
  4. WOODROW

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    This is a very intresting question. Where does such energy goes? That I'd something to ponder. Though I don't have PMO issue, I will due my research.
     
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  5. Nautica

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    They go to Archons. The earth is an energy farm in which interdimensional beings feed off of our negative energy such as suffering, expelling our life force, fear, torture, etc.
     
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  6. Steppingintotheunkown

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    I have wondered this. When I was heavily into pmo some creepy stuff happened to me. I know the spirit world is real.
     
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  7. Nautica

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    Yup, everything we've been taught about this world is a lie. The real truth is much stranger than fiction. What creepy things did you experience btw?

    For me when I was a child before I had ever masturbated and watched porn, and I would fall into sleep paralysis I never once felt the precense of any entities, I never saw any, and I never felt scared. After I got into PMO however, whenever I fall into sleep paralysis I've been feeling the precense of evil entities and seeing shadow figures. They always put a ton of pressure on my body as if I'm being crushed by something. I didn't experience this beforehand because I wasn't giving off much or any negative energy at all.
     
  8. Little Prince

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    Erm, nothing supernatural exists, there is no energy in our secretions. Energy was required to make it sure, but it's the same with spit really. You don't lose energy if you lose spit. There is no magical energy exchange with a partner during in sex. Life force doesn't exist.
     
  9. ruso

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    Why you trolling though xD
     
  10. Little Prince

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    I don't think he's trolling, that does happen to many people. It's not because anything supernatural exists, the brain is making that under certain circumstances. If he stops believing in those nonsense things he'll be fine.
     
  11. Nautica

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    That's just your belief and your perception. Many different religions, ancient civilizations, people who can travel to the astral realm, people who have had near death experiences, people who make the law of attraction work for them etc. Would disagree with you however as their experience tells them otherwise about what energy is and how it works.
     
  12. Little Prince

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    I am very well aware of all those beliefs and they are all wrong, all evidence suggests that nothing like that exists. It's not my belief or perception, it's reality.
     
  13. Nautica

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    That's what your governments science agency tells you so that's what you choose to believe. But my spiritual beliefs and experiences tell me otherwise. Therefore my perspective and experience is different from yours.
     
  14. Nautica

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    That's because you only listen to what your government has told you about how the world works and what "reality" is and you won't allow yourself to believe otherwise, therefore to you, "everyone else must be wrong!" But the spiritual experiences of millions of others cannot be ignored.

    The same way people criticize and censor nofap because of what they don't understand about it and how their governments have made them believe that porn and masturbation are "healthy" is the same thing science only believers do to people who are into spirituality.

    Ever hear of Plato's cave theory?
     
  15. Little Prince

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    Why don't you pick 1 supernatural event that you believe in and prove it. There are million dollar rewards for this. Many tried to claim the money and failed.
     
  16. Nautica

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    On youtube their is an interview with an old lady who has won over 4,000 contest using the law of attraction. Contest that range from money, to free cruises and trips etc. I have youtube blocked by my porn blockers so I cannot link it to you so you'll have to search for it.

    Theres a video of a homeless guy whom can literally make a deck of cards move around wildly without touching it. I don't know if this one is still on youtube or not but it could be on other sites.

    There's a guy that can light paper on fire with nothing but his hands.

    There are monks who used sound and vibrations through instruments to levitate huge rocks in which the video evidence was destroyed for obvious reasons.

    There's scientist who've figured out sound and vibrations can destroy cancer cells, viruses, bacteria etc. This would never go mainstream for obvious reasons.

    Nikola tesla himself said the secrets of the universe revolve around Vibrations.

    And for the game winner

    The CIA literally released documents this year confirming interdimensional beings, UFOS, psychic powers, reincarnation, the holographic universe, and the astral plane. I'm not even kidding.
     
  17. Little Prince

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  18. Nautica

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    An that's why I didn't want to waste my time typing any of that out because people like you will just ignore actual supernatural events and call them fake. I thought you would listen but I guess not.

    Also, how is the CIA releasing those documents fake? LOL
     
  19. Steppingintotheunkown

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    There are several things you could do to attract these entities, just a simple google search would tell you how. I would seriously not recommend it though, once these things come into your life it’s difficult to get rid of them.
     
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  20. Steppingintotheunkown

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    You seem to be looking at this from a very western science perspective. Spend some time in Chinese medicine, go and live in india for a month and immerse yourself in their culture, spend 24 with a desert African tribe, then tell me “they are all wrong”.
     

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