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Why did YOU reboot?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by lennyoo, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. lennyoo

    lennyoo Fapstronaut

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    Hello guys,

    I want to know what main things drive you to abstain from PMO.

    Personally, I'm an atheist and I have absolutely no moral issues towards MO (P is debatable, but not inherently). I feel bad for the people who feel like they're "sinners" for giving in to PMO, but still wish them good luck of course.

    My reasons are these, basically:
    1. I want "real sex" to feel more passionate! Right now I just try to find out if I can actually come inside my partner which is not the reason to have sex. When I think I can't (because I already lose sexual energy from PMO), I get bored and stop. That's messed up!
    2. I want more energy. I can't remember the last day I didn't wake up just a little bit tired. I heard that orgasms consume a lot of energy which really tire you out if you have them too much. Can anyone confirm? I'd love to be more energetic so I could work on my constitution and weight by working out instead of fapping.
    3. I want to be less socially awkward. I don't know how this could help, but I feel that when I'm tired, it's hard to actively participate in group convos etc. I don't know if this'll help, but it's worth a try.
    4. I can't get on a frigging condom. It's embarrassing but I just can't get it done. I lose my erection and the girl loses her mood. I think that with more sexual passion, I would be able to perform.
    Any thoughts/additions? Please share!

    Thanks in advance and stay strong.
     
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  2. Knight Solaire

    Knight Solaire Fapstronaut

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    I did it to save my relationship. PMO kills love buddy.
     
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  3. lennyoo

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    Thanks Sun Bro.
    Is this because you see tons of girls on the Internet and get off on all of them? Or something else? I'd like to know.
     
  4. Knight Solaire

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    Well bub, I guess you could say that you are cheating on your SO when you PMO. Not to mention destroying your sex drive, love, motivation, and self esteem all at once.

    I was literally causing my SO so much distress to the point she had no self esteem and insecurities out the wazoo. You aren't just hurting yourself in a situation like this. Finally, I was able to get on the right track and our sex and love have never been better.

    Nofap saved my relationship buddy. It'll save your life too. We are so much closer and can communicate so much better now.

    You are cheating on your SO if you are using porn because you are still getting off to other women. Hope this helped buddy
     
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  5. Jodokus

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    Hi lennyoo, nice to meet you!

    After reading your list I wonder: are you actually addicted to pmo? or just masturbating a little too often? (serious question :))
    here my top 8:

    why I want to stop porn (and MO) and what I hope for

    0) free my mind, get rid of an addiction
    1) do my duties: so often I had other things to do but I pmo'ed
    2) real women not virtual ones, real sex instead of porn
    3) self-confidence: bc of not hiding anymore (my "hobby", my browser history, my dirty hands, my dirty mind)
    4) control: not being hypersensitive to certain pictures or views anymore, better control of feelings, thinking and doing,
    make my own decisions - which leads to:
    5) taste and sexual liking: become more congruent with myself in that behalf (i.e. I never liked to do facial but I've watched it so
    continuosly that I just love to see it by now)
    6) time: have more of it - includes better sleep (no night-pornsessions)
    7) mental balance, less selfish, social improvements - maybe some impact here too
    8) energy and atractiveness - would be awesome too :D or is it just a myth?
     
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  6. lennyoo

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    Hey Jodokus!

    Thanks for the reply.

    That's a good question. When is one addicted? I'm at day four now (night five, haha). I generally MO'ed to fall asleep easier -- it relaxes, after all. But also to wake myself up. Kind of weird how the same thing causes two seemingly contradictive feelings. It's 03:34 AM right now and I'm wide awake, because I didn't O like normally but also because my body is craving it even more now. That answers the question that my body really expects its periodic fix, so I guess that could be called addiction. Furthermore, I desperately want to PMO right now because it's getting very difficult :p

    Normally I PMO'd about twice-thrice a day (during the morning and again in the evening), and I use porn to get inspiration.

    It's difficult to assess how much influence it has on your life, how much it alters your brain. I can only think of the problems in my life and how PMO could have caused them. And then, NoFap is worth a try :)

    How is your situation?
    Thanks!
     
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  7. lennyoo

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    Might I ask how "severe" your situation was? I find it difficult to assess if it's also the case for me and my relationship without comparing it.
    I'm glad you found this forum :) Stay strong!
     
  8. Knight Solaire

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    Probably everyday lol. I don't really remember because I've been trying to quit so long. PMOing since 14 or 15. 6 years. Could you be more specific? About how "severe". I don't exactly understand I guess.
     
  9. ptcompetitor81

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    My reasons why I'm rebooting:

    -Taking control of my life. I want to use the energy that I've always expended on PMO all the time and apply it to constructive and positive elements in my life and being productive as well
    -Socializing with women. I got so hooked on PMO that I didn't have a need or desire to talk or date women. Now I can get myself to being out there and talk to the ladies.
    -Tiredness. Fapping always made me exhausted and always woke up with little to no energy in the morning. Since going a few weeks without PMO I'm very alert and also getting better sleep day by day.
    -Getting rid of that guilt after PMO. Even though it was a great short term pleasure, I always felt crappy and guilty everytime I PMOd. Now because I'm being more productive I feel more of the long term pleasure of being a better version of myself.
    -Athletic performance. Surpisinigly me doing NoFap has increased my performance in the gym working out in terms of strength, stamina, endurance, etc. So its a major motivator for me to keep this up.
     
  10. NoBrainer

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    Nice reasons lennyoo. :) These were my reasons for starting nofap:
    • To improve my social skills
    • Because I realised porn was ruining my life
    • To improve my ability to interact with women
    • To become emotionally clean
    • To stop feeling empty, physically and emotionally
    • In the hope of one day having a meaningful relationship with someone
     
  11. NoBrainer

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    Hey buddy, nice reasons! You're not a software person by any chance are you? Only I couldn't help but noticing that your first reason was numbered zero! ;)
     
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  12. Harman

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    Hey Lennyoo!

    I don't believe that the transmutation of energy is actually a real thing. Sexual energy cannot be converted into any different type of energy in my experience. However! If you are being worn down because of your addiction and your obsession with P or M or Oing then that can be energy draining. There are a million different reasons for being tired throughout your day that may not be linked to PMO'ing. Just to clarify my point I was tired all day because of my caffeine addiction and if I masturbated I would fall asleep no matter what time of day, but it was due to the caffeine addiction. Also motivation, I found love again this year and woke up earlier because it meant I got to see her. So I don't know if I believe in the whole NoFap more energy stuff, because it's never been obvious to me that, that is what the reason for my long energy driven days are. Also no carbs helps my energy levels because I'm sensitive to digesting them. If you want to check out more stuff on energy levels, youtube Paul Chek or Yuri Elkaim.

    As with the social awkwardness, it's something that you have to practice. It's how you interact with the world not what you do in your spare time. Taking time out of your day to say hello and speak to people who you interact with, is important and a skill set which you need to learn and develop. Cutting out porn helps because it helps you respect women differently, but the M & O, for me haven't really done anything to help my social skills. I've read pick up artist books and all of these social manipulation books but they are all bull and end up saying that you just have to be comfortable with yourself in order to talk to people and have relationships with them, it's not just the technique of manipulating, it's the technique of relating. A great book is Dale Carnegie "How to make friends and influence people". THE TITLE IS MISLEADING. It's the most down to earth book I've ever read. Because he actually cares about the people he meets and he gives you techniques to help you help them want to talk to you, in a business driven world. It's worth it.

    I've had the condom problem, but for me that was psychological. It was annoying that I had to go and get the condom and break the passion and intensity of the moment to frig around with it. Wasn't really to do with ED. But it sure does help when you have a harder erection because you quit PMO'ing and can appreciate her much more.

    Hope this helps and wasn't too long haha.
     
  13. Jodokus

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    No I'm not and I admit it's somewhat strange to use the 0 as first number (maybe not for a software person?)
    I was thinking "free my mind, get rid of an addiction" must stand on the top but it also sums all other reasons..

    @Harman
    this might be true what you say about (p)mo, energy and women. The book of D. Carnegie: I've only read some pages of it at the place of a friend. So it's really worth reading? Thank you!
    Glad you defeated ur coffee-addiction. Actually everybody that I know with a high regular coffee consum thinks this is good for him/her :rolleyes:
    Well I guess that there are always addictions in our life...
    "When have somebody a problem? When he has a problem." a friend told me.


    @lennyoo
    guess the main thing is that you want to change s.t.
    the best for you!

    btw I also had PIED for about one month. In all occasions with one girl - happening when tried to use condom. We didn't talk about it. I was aware that pmo was too much (she had no idea) but didn't realized that this here was the most likely explanation. I broke up with her. I was very stupid, wasn't I?
     
  14. lennyoo

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    Hey mate. I don't think you were stupid. We have phases in our lives in which we need to figure out who we are in order to become the best we can be :) perhaps you really felt like working on yourself. If you really had a click, you'll find your way back to each other. Don't despair, my friend!
     

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