Why do people of noFap considering masturbation as a toxic?

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Zillion, May 1, 2019.

  1. Captain!

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    How can u know the moderation of masterbation if it is addictive.
     

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  2. Great words, they exactly describe what I´m feeling about it.
    Moreover, I don´t have any problem with other people masturbating frequently when they are happy with that. I recognized that I´m not. It´s not the easier way, but it rewarding
     
  3. Completely wrong... it´s simply having fun with yourself. You don´t have to play any role, just using what you have, like using your legs for walking. No moral.
     
  4. xXkiller42

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    I was at 500 and still had none
     
  5. DeepParkWater

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    I dont, maybe im still a PA refusing ti conform to these ideals but i dont think MO is entirely a bad thing. Personally i hate the concept of sin as it bears such a negatuve connotation in the brainwashing associated eith religion.

    I think its a waste to view sexuality in such a negative light since honestly to a degree its a necessary evil in todays society. Unless you want to be the person whos never orgasmed in their life in high school. It just doesnt make practical sense. Such extremes for me in my childhood being raised in a strict christian household did more harm than good. Such extremes caused me to seek out other things to fill the void and as a child its not a good trauma to carry.

    I'm abstaining from PMO for my own personal reasons but I dont necessarily think its the right way to go about things for every situation. The withdrawl symptoms alone arent justifiable if you have important tasks that need to be taken carr of for your career depending on your situation. How you justify things are dependent on you though.

    I personally want to reboot my brain because i know for a fact my dopamine reward pathway is shot and the levels of grey matter have decreased in the past 3 years. The fastest way I know that can happen is through being PMO free. But if I meet a hot woman who i want a healthy relationship along the way will not sleep with her? Absolutely not because i desire a healthy relationship. Just my 2 cents
     
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  6. MarkN96

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    oh... my... god! hemorrhoids? white hairs? I HAVE ALL OF THOSE SYMPTOMS MENTIONED.

    and i had anal pain since january this year and the doctor prescribed me these pills that disolve in my rectum but didn't work at all, but i have an appointment with a gastroenterologist soon so they can figure out what's wrong. the most that i am scared of is people dying! thanks for sharing that, i gotta quit somehow. but masturbating to me is on the same scale as my soda addiction, say i won't drink it the next day, few weeks whatever, and then im back to it.
     
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  7. Captain!

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    I am thankful it affects you.
     
  8. DesertExplorer

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    For someone addicted to porn like me, masturbation leads to PMO sooner or later. So, that's why I would consider it bad.
     
  9. MarkN96

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    wait what? why?
     
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  10. xXkiller42

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    Jeez
     
  11. MarkN96

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    yep. you heard it from me folks. hes "glad" the ill effects it gives me.
     
  12. Headspace

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    Many people here do not claim masturbation is inherently bad, but rather see it as a slippery slope for themselves: For (former) porn addicts it is easier to quit porn and masturbation altogether, than to keep masturbating without porn. Just like an alcoholic who will rather quit alcohol altogether rather than go for a beer once or twice a week.
     
  13. DesertExplorer

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    Well said.
     
  14. MotivationWarrior

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    Personally I feel dirty a lot after relapse. Also masturbation demotivates me from meeting girls. Porn is a past for me. But when I masturbate I always fantasizing as most of us do so basically it's like watching porn. Masturbation without fantasizing that you are with the girl you like is impossible in my opinion. So you still live a life in porn.
     
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  15. Advocate109

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    As long as you feel its not impacting you negatively, go for it. But youre here for a reason im guessing so id at least try the reboot.
     
  16. Captain!

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    You do it for rewarding? But its effect to the brain is addictive. Masterbation is not like eating cake for self reward or celebration its like snorting a coke or higher drugs for their highs but very fast to crash down, it differs so much for dopamine release and acceptance. Big difference my friend. Don't do it, very bad for health.
     
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  17. MarinoBigFan1984

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    For some people masturbation is fine. If it starts to impact your real sex life than you need to make a change.
     
  18. MarinoBigFan1984

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    I view porn as more harmful than masturbation with limits of course. Not whacking off everyday or multiple times a day.
     
  19. DesertExplorer

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    I think you misinterpreted what he said. I've read his post a couple of times to make sure and I am positive he meant that abstaining is rewarding for him. Not masturbation.
     
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  20. sfmark12

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    Depends on the person I guess. I dont like masturbation because it strips my soul away. So i want to quit it so i can keep it.
     

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