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WHY Does Pornography exists?!

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Furozima10, Nov 19, 2022.

  1. Gabriel Knight

    Gabriel Knight Fapstronaut

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    The name of the doc is "Hot girls wanted"? I would like to watch it. It is good stuff to get people informed about the dangers.
     
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  2. AngLucero

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    Don't you think that it's a great business? And it is so successful because it is something forbidden.
     
  3. That documentary is very triggering! I wouldn't watch it if I were you.
     
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  4. Gabriel Knight

    Gabriel Knight Fapstronaut

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    Ok, thanks for warning me, i will reconsider it some other time when i am more in longer streaks.
     
  5. Liminal

    Liminal Fapstronaut

    Sorry if it’s a bit long, but in my opinion it’s because most people are slaves who want instant gratification and pleasure, hence find ways to achieve such things in the easiest ways possible. Whether it’s drugs, sex, alcohol, masturbation, overeating, people develop tolerance to these things and they keep seeking them for pleasure either to momentarily fill a void left by trauma (which only gets bigger as the addiction in question develops) or just for the sheer tolerance built to such pleasure, which leads to wanting more and more of it, either through higher quantities or stranger variants.

    I think the matter of addiction is strictly rooted with human nature and the pursuit of happiness. Such pursuit is swayed by momentary and instant pleasures, which are achieved by enslaving yourself to instincts and passions, aligning your will with the former and the latter. Doing this will bring you momentarily satisfaction, but it will make you unsatisfied in the long run, as you’ll never just be happy by following an addiction, since you’ll just be want bigger high, after being left more drained and unsatisfied after each high.

    The unsatisfaction found through addiction is, again, strictly rooted with human nature. If you look at humanity, at men, what really distinguishes them from animals is being conscious of their instincts, being apperceptive (conscious of perceiving) of them. This consciousness/apperception is at the very base of free will. Man is essentially conscious of his instinct and he can hence choose whether or not to align with them. When an action is mediated by reason, hence by an impartial view of things that is uninterested and indifferent towards instincts and passions, hence free, just like human nature is, that is when free will is being used for freedom, at least in theory, as such an action, although it may become ingrained into the will, shall need power (or willpower) to come into action. That’s where discipline and/or faith come in and give man the ability to live by nature (the human, free nature) not only in theory but also through practice. Living in this way will bring man satisfaction, as he’s honoring his free will and apperception, not annihilating them by blindly abiding to instincts and personal and instant gain or gratification, but by making such apperception evident through his thoughts and actions. By living according to nature man does good towards himself, as he achieves his purpose, which is that of being free, and also towards others, as he doesn’t need to potentially use them for his personal gain and pleasure, as that would indeed be a form of slavery, which is why self-sufficiency is so important in the path to freedom and is often cited and practiced by many philosophies and religions (see stoicism, cynicism, epicureism to a certain extent, Christianity, although in this case self sufficiency is read as sacrifice towards your neighbor and, as any other religion, requires one to have faith to be put into practice, which also requires you to align your will with that of a revealed, higher being, and not to sheer reason (which on the other hand is what philosophies do), in order to achieve freedom; you have other forms of self sufficiency in other eastern religions too, such as some forms of monastic buddhism).

    So from all this we can assure that satisfaction does indeed come from living by nature, hence from being free from passions and instincts and mediating your thoughts and actions through impartial reason, which will, if truly impartial, will lead you to realize your true nature of free being, hence will make you self sufficient and even ascetic. The highest forms of freedom were in fact almost always achieved by those who, on a purely socio-economical level, were losers. Look at Zeno of Citium, who lost everything and kept his integrity and moved on to create stoicism, look at Epicurus and how he let himself die, look at Diogenes, who lived in a barrel and had nothing, look at Christ and at how he died to save those who hated him, betrayed him, tortured him and killed him, look at how few things he had and how free he was, and following his example, look at saint Francis, striping himself of all his wealths to live among the poor, according to faith, dying at a young age, look at Baruch Spinoza, a 17th century philosopher who lived a simple life, but had such great intellect and reason that princes and kings offered him wealth and hospitality, which he refused because of his love of freedom and self-sufficiency, dying of disease at a young age; look, more contemporaneously, at people like Simone Weil’s sacrifice, or at Edith Stein’s conversion and tragic death, or at father Kolbe’s death in stead of someone else. And there are so many more examples of free men and women through history, people who defied instincts and pleasure for the sake of freedom and for sheer love of humanity and the substance of freedom that makes it up. They were all good people who did good to themselves and others, we can hence say that freedom is easily categorizable as good, and the opposite of it is, slavery to instincts and passions, is equally easily categorizable as evil.

    We talked about freedom but unfortunately people are rarely free. Most people do in fact choose to be slaves while being under the illusion of being free because they are “choosing” to be addicted to something, whether it’s physical, material, or social pleasure. Such “choice” is an illusion because right in the moment in which they may try to get away from the idol they are serving, they won’t be able to, or at least not without struggling. Deep down they know this so they will usually try to rationalize their slavery as freedom, using a reason that is deeply corrupted by the very same pleasures and instincts that they are blindly following. These people are either under the illusion of being satisfied, although they constantly show the opposite as they continuously chase for the very same pleasures that they say have satisfied them, which of course is a contradiction: you’re evidently not satisfied by whatever you achieved if you keep looking for it every time; such a behavior is the very definition of chasing an illusory good from which these people actually depend on for momentary fulfillment, through a master-servant relationship with their addiction that is purely symbiotic.

    Freedom is not as light and easy to achieve as most people will want you to believe, it in fact requires you to free yourself from all these idols, which, if you’ve been depending on them for quite a while, will be like losing part of yourself, as they engrained themselves so much into your essence that they effectively replaced themselves with it, hence effectively becoming you, making the real you die. Look at the people who fall into depression or even kill themselves after losing something or someone; people committing suicide after losing their job or their house or any piece of property, or after losing a beloved one; their suffering/suicide is nothing so sudden or unexpected, but just the demonstration of how the thing or person they lost made up their very essence, and when that certain thing changed or ceased to exist, they too changed or ceased to exist. This is the exact opposite of self sufficiency and leads to harm towards yourself, as you enslave and condition yourself to external things, on which you also have no control over, and potentially towards others, as you’ll use them to achieve either the material object or person you desire to depend on, or will damage those who may “get in the way” of achieving it.

    Slavery will lead you to commit evil, which is the demonstration that slavery is indeed evil, as opposed to the good that is freedom. If you look at all evil people in history, you’ll notice that each and every one of them had secondary aims, whether it was power or fame or wealth, all things, substantially, are synonymous with pleasure and personal gain and gratification, through momentary and external material/sensorial things; most people will follow whatever is easier to achieve and brings momentary pleasure, and this is were drugs, porn, casual sex/prostitution, alcoholism , overeating, gambling and so on come in. They come from most people’s slavery to instincts and passions, from the evil they commit against themselves and, potentially, against others.
     
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  6. WinningSystem

    WinningSystem Fapstronaut

    Yeah facts, why does pornography exist?

    It's disgusting! No real community would allow it's production. Should definitely be made illegal. And in general sexualization must be curbed. It's obscene and wrecking havoc on the world!

    The internet has allowed porn to be so widespread and dangerous. Thankfully the Creator of the universe is stronger than all things and can lead us out of addiction. As slaves to him, we don't have to be slaves to lust.
     
  7. If porn becomes illegal - then every single man will be imprisoned.
     
  8. WinningSystem

    WinningSystem Fapstronaut

    If porn is legal - then every single man will be imprisoned by porn.
     
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  9. The best we can do is walk away from it. If it can't be illegal, I think onlyfans needs to hear from the people who have been addicted. Like, they really need to know how bad it is.
     
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  10. tawwab1

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    It exists because powerful people choose to look the other way.

    So are we going to play victim or take responsibility for what we consume?
     
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  11. I think taking responsibility for what we consume is one thing. But why can't shitty behavior and acts be stopped?
     
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  12. Evans59

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    I don't think it will ever go away. As long as there is any technology that makes it possible to share these videos and pictures with other people and put them on display for all to see, porn will continue to exist. People like to watch it, and no one is restricting people from watching it. The government, for example, doesn't even pay attention to the magnitude of the problem. I don't think anything will change for years to come, which sounds sad.
     
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  13. Plus, the sexologists all say there is nothing wrong with it. I kind of despise them for that. Because it was viewing porn that ruined my entire sex life.
     
  14. I think I know what group OWNS the porn industry, but we are already so far gone and backwards as a society that even if this “group” was not prevalent, there would still be people making porn for views.
     
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