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Why have sexual trends gotten so weird?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by greenmtnboy, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. greenmtnboy

    greenmtnboy Fapstronaut

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    I've thought about the current trends in porn; look at the evolution of the first men's magazines with Hefner in the 50s. It was more a style thing, the "in" girls were on the silver screen, women like Marilyn Monroe, Jean Harlow, and the like. In the 60s trends changed again, and then the natural look was all the rage.

    From then until 2020 the changes have gotten weirder and more provocative. Oral and anal got more intense, as normal sex I guess got boring. Is there any rhyme or reason to the changes and do people here think that porn is driving the trends?
     
  2. VanGuy

    VanGuy Fapstronaut

    Hi, No I think porn just actually just boring on some level... we all realise it’s lacking.. you look at your favourite scene from 2 years ago and now it’s only ok.. why?
    I actually think the reason PMO is so addictive is you’re always looking for something that it can’t deliver.. I honestly don’t get very genuinely aroused by any of it any more.. once the excitement of a scene has been experienced it loses its appeal pretty fast.. so after a while you start looking at the awful shit.. shock value.. the porn industry has to supply so much awful shit to give it’s customers somewhere to grow in the future.. it’s only going to get worse... poor kids these days don’t get to start at dads stash of playboy magazine. they get fisting, scat and gas masks as a starting point and escalate to god knows were... my 2 cents✌️
     
  3. SeekingPower

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    I tend to think that moral boundaries are falling.
    It is naturall to like wierd and hardcore sex. Be since start of civilization we have been limited by morality.
    Now morality is falling
     
  4. CodeTalker

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    It needs to be shocking so that people are hooked and don’t get bored of porn. It will continue to escalate more and more.
     
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  5. hubbawulf1234

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    We as a society have removed consequence and shame.
     
  6. VanGuy

    VanGuy Fapstronaut

    That’s an excellent point.. imagine how embarrassed you would feel if your porn history was revealed to your friends and family.. it says it all really.
    It’s funny I remember years ago there was an April fools joke going around where your Porn search history was shown as being automatically shared with your Facebook page.. (it was something like that)
    Thats some funny shit but imagine that.. who the hell would want to look at Porn if everyone knew what you looked at.. I sure wouldn’t... what I look at in my dirty little secret entitled world embarrasses the hell out of me..
     
  7. hubbawulf1234

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    No joke! I'd straight up die from the embarassment!

    No imagine the 80s or 90s when you had to walk into a store to purchase this?
     
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  8. Bobske

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    This has been researched.
    It is indeed a result of addiction. The (porn) addicts needing more and more stimulation= weirder things to achieve the same level of stimulation. Downward spiral until all you want to do is get that buzz.
    Like an alcoholic needing more booze to get drunk, or at least feel drunk.
    This works across addictions and that is the danger. People going from soft drugs to hard etc.
    Just look it up and read about it.

    It is also why getting rid of an addiction is so hard.
    As you addiction to f.e. dopamine drops after a period of abstinence, you become more easily stimulated, aroused.
    If you give in, because you get a better buzz again, the circle starts again.
     
  9. ultrafabber

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    Bacause the act of jerking off is inherently abnormal and it does not satiate so people need more stimulus to be able to do it.

    Ejaculation from jerking off has been demonstrated to produce 0.25 of the prolactin produced by ejaculation from piv sex.

    You simply need more of it which dulls the sensors which in turn force you to need more stimulation.

    Shock, anger, shame, fear, etc will all generate more stimulation so that the person can get aroused since he can not get aroused in a normal and natural way.
     
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  10. Zimzi

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    Not a very fair analysis although true. No one would want friends and family to see them having sex even if vanilla because it’s just shameful on some level. So no one wants any part of their sexuality revealed to friends regardless of if it’s extremely shocking as in porn, or if it’s you slapping ur girls ass and her squirting everywhere. Imagine...for girls they wouldnt even want a voice recording of their pleasure sounds exposed even though it’s perfectly natural to moan. Point is yes porn is messed to show to family and friend but no one would want to show even the most appropriate things we all know we do behind closed doors. Doesn’t mean we wouldn’t want to have good sex tho. It’s nAtural to not want anyone to see it.
     
  11. greenmtnboy

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    Or think of complaints of neighbors about one another's behavior, what they smell, see, hear, etc. through the walls. If you live in an apartment, likely that neighbors affect one another with noises especially.

    I live next door to a neighbor who is a musician, so I was thinking the guy has acute hearing and may have reported me to management even though in the past if I watched porn, I kept the sound down and tried to be considerate.

    On his side of the fault line are prohibited activities like cigarette smoking in this housing. He and his wife are immigrants from Eastern Europe, they are clannish, expect Americans to help him not vice versa. People have to try to forgive one another.

    One of the weird things you see in porn vs. say sex in R rated broader audience movies; is that the actors and actresses "eat one another alive" as if it were some sexual endurance contest or sexual wrestling. In under xxx movies you see far more subtle sexual activity, the body is not fully exposed to every angle of the sex activity with it going on for 20 minutes.

    I guess life can imitate art sometimes but I haven't heard too many people having sex for a long time though a younger fellow worker talked about having sex with his wife for 3 hours which must be pretty stressful for the woman.
     
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  12. It's like the way of the entertainment industry. What was shocking years ago is mild today. We the viewing public require ever greater doses of nudity, violence and depravity in order to pique our interest.
     
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  13. greenmtnboy

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    That may be wanted in the porn viewers, but not in mainstream R rated content; they have limits and can't do what is common in porn. So with lesbian R rated movies you won't see the actresses engage in crazy levels of sex as the porn shows as romance is the popular thing not ever more aggressive forms of intrusions into the body. With more mainstream hetero R and X rated films over the years again you don't see crazy amounts of sex, just relatively normal levels of sex sessions. You look at the average sexual encounters based on statistics and they aren't that long; so mainstream videos show things in line with that.
     
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  14. I have had sex with my wife for 3 hours or so a few months ago! Granted, it was when I had broken a NoFap streak and my wife and I were watching p0rn, it wasn't penetration all the way through (I did go soft at times) and I had to play with her and satisfy her, but it was pretty incredible! And she was really turned on, I just wish there had been no p0rn involved!
     
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  15. greenmtnboy

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    Which just goes to show that sex should be affectionate, loving and gentle; not demanding, compulsory, abusive, unhealthy and overly frequent.

    People'e expectations are often unreasonable, so they get burned out in relationships. People should be getting to know their significant other as a friend, and affectionate helper and lover before sex starts happening. The woman's menstruation is a limiting factor and her emotional state need to be respected at all times. The feminists are having a big influence on relationships. If the relationship is going to be long lived respect should be shown at all times.

    In porn unreasonable appetites are generated as if girls at 35, 45, 55, etc. are going to be as willing as at 20-25. Many women lose interest in sex especially if it isn't done right.
     
  16. Yea, women reach their sexual peak around 25, which explains why so many women don't initiate or aren't interested in in sex after that age, especially once they've had kids.

    Guys, on other hand, don't reach sexual peak til around 40+
     
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  17. greenmtnboy

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    Women still want sex as they get older, if the guy respects them properly, is romantic and loving and knows how to please them. Intercourse is not necessary in relationships, oral sex, guy on girl should be enough; the problem is backing off while in the throes of passion.

    In my father's generation, the men initiated it all, and the women tended to be passive and willing (and powerless) agents. Many of the men were piggish in their appetites, smoking and drinking too much alcohol, did not have regular exercise regimens, and were overweight. Sex is pretty crappy as people get older with people who are in poor shape with bad habits. Fortunately there is a lot more awareness of what constitutes good health.
     
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  18. VanGuy

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    I think you make a good point.. I don’t think your comparison is strictly fair either.. I think porn is much worse.. to me the lack of boundaries and active encouragement to escalation into darker and weirder shit, by its nature has way more potential to be something to feel ashamed about.
    I 100% get your point about not wanting someone watching and I hadn’t thought about it like that.. that’s really true so thanks..
    I do think that great sex is nothing to be ashamed about at all.. at worst embarrassed maybe in the example you said about your gf moaning ..true embarrassed but not ashamed and yes I wouldn’t particularly want an audience..but on a deeper level sex is still natural and a Porn isn’t.. no one is looking down on you for great sex.. Porn is not really even related to great sex.. porn is an electronic replication of sex.. PMO is actually a grown man batting off to someone else being paid to perform sex. Voyeuristic and weird.. Because it’s only a surrogate for sex it’s unreal and ultimately pretty limited, so it just gets weirder and weirder until you’re looking at stuff you wouldn’t even contemplate in real life or even enjoy.. that’s why to me anyways it feels potentially very very shameful rather than embarrassing...
     
  19. Hi VanGuy,
    great post. You write very well. Your point about the lack of boundaries regarding porn is very insightful.
    Like you I find PMO a very shameful activity. The internet is a stealth bomber. It has hooked people on porn that otherwise would never have been!
     
  20. Honestly as a woman I'm not fond of oral sex at all, I believe in fact that piv is very fulfilling and don't think I'll need much stimulation. The only problem is how much women tend to become desensitized as they get older, and even if they can climax with other forms of stimulation I still think it's very much possible to pleasure them with piv.
    A very good advice is to look at the internal part of the clitoris to understand how To satisfy your partner with PIV. The clitoris is not made only from the little nub you see outside , inside they are two bulbs that surround the vaginal canal and become engorged and filled with blood as the women becomes more and more aroused, and to reach that you should need to be both open and honest with each others and feel comfortable during the whole act.
     
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