Why i quit NoFap and why Fapping and Sex is good for you.

There is a reason why are mages in fantasy books and RPG games modeled after Catholic priests and monks... Maybe.

 

This is what I was talking about.
Logic on this forum is rare because people just have certain ideas that they believe in and that's that.

 

I am no fanatic by any means . But I hate WDs , does that make me a psycho ?

x2 . + Being laid-back is controllable . It is personality thing .

And why there is SR section ? As we know it is not all 2+2=4

 

Many people say they hair thickens , hairline comes back . Etc . Etc .
Seeing so much young men with their hair falling, I don't believe that .
It can be nutrition, stress, genetics .

 

Nah, that's normal. I don't get to remember my dreams and they do become a hindrance for like 10 mins.

True. I don't see my self losing hair.

Could be.

 

I don't think you understand what the word "proof" means. Because you have had a certain experience with NoFap, does not mean that experience will be true for everyone.

 

My personal views:

I was reading the book "the 4-Hour Body" by Tim Ferris. and in book he gave an example of a person who used to work out (basically running/marathon but I am calling it workout as general term) some 12 hours a week, then he started using some techniques and reduced it to 8 hours a week and broken his personal best. then again he started getting smarter and started working out 5 hours a week and became much more fit, less prone to injuries and improved his time as well. So thats the story.

Can everybody do that and became as fit as him by working out 5 hours a week and run marathons?
Answer is an obvious NO.

The catch in the story is that guy used to work out 12 hours a week for almost a year initially. and then he used techniques to reduce time and improve his performance. Do you think working 5 hours a week you can ran a marathon under 4 hours. Obviously no.
First you got to put hours and hours of training and once you are comfortable running a marathon then you can apply some techniques and better exercises etc

There is no shortcut to hard work. First you do hard work and then you take tricks and techniques to improve it.
The same thing for nofap I guess. First you need to go on hard mode. learn to control your thoughts, identify what makes you relapse, control your urges.. once you mastered this then you can do whatever you want. After this even while watching porn you wont feel the urge.

Usain bolt can stop training for one month and then start again and get back to his same performance level.
Do you think a newbie can stop training for a month and get back the same performance.

 

I am interested @Balkanray in what attracted you to nofap lifestyle in the first place? A lot of guys practice semen retention because they believe (rightly or wrongly) that they have very low T, and want to do something about it. Hormones are all about balance, and high T comes with just as many problems as low T, as you point out. I don't think men with normal/high T should be practicing semen retention. At least, not long term.

Also, happy to see that you are not defending porn. The main issues as I see them are excessive (multiple times a day) masturbation and pornography addiction. We can probably agree on that.

When a man is severely addicted to masturbation, when he has sexual problems because of it, and has difficulty becoming aroused to anything but extreme porn, then a 'reboot' is required. This might take 90 days or 900. If you are having problems due to excessive testosterone, it's probably time to stop. Hopefully with a sexual partner, but in my opinion the occasional masturbate to 'own thoughts' is ok for the long term single.

Lots of people are here for their own particular reasons, and not everyone is hardcore SR (maybe not even most?). Personally I am married, and my ultimate goal is a normal healthy sex life with my wife.

 

Would you also use the word 'sedated'?

 

Oh come on, what have you missed out on?
I understand if after a relapse you are at a low point, angry, despereate, not in your right mind and say/write things.
But come on, what are you are gonna do, cry about it now in retrospect about how when your room mates left for shopping and you meanwhile while being at home alone didn't seize the 'golden opportunity'? To do what, masturbate?
Not saying that you would go to hell if you did either, but what soo uniquely memorable moments has Nofap stolen from you that are now forever gone and there is no opportunity for it returning?
Even if you become the president in the upcoming elections, you will still have time to attend your 'private' sessions, mate.
But if you choose to practise Nofap, and have too much energy, maybe exercise twice a day. Any sport. Except golf, maybe.

 

Why are you being so needlessly hostile? All anyone else in the thread did was disagree with your opinion?

 

He doesn't suffer fools gladly
Neither do I

 

Oh god no, how could you stoop to such a low level?

 

I mean think what you will, but this entire thread just seems like classic case of "I posted something controversial online then got mad when people disagreed with me."

 

NoFap is controversial lol. Nobody outside of it takes it seriously.

 

Thats not what I mean, I just mean controversial in general. OP's reaction to polite disagreement made it seem like he was genuinely surprised that people disagreed with him, which to me shows a baffling lack of self awareness considering the audience of this forum. Its also funny to me that he keeps saying masturbating makes him feel calmer and more at peace yet he flips out as soon as someone doesnt immediately just accept what hes saying, even though its based on circumstantial and anecdotal evidence.

 

Even funnier are these trying to convince him that NoFap is subjective, however MO is objectively wrong.