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Why I think most women are stupid

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by SP Wild, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. R.C

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    True , I have an arrogant nature. But that's besides the point. We're not really discussing my character traits here. I don't judge people out of prejudice.


    Do you have a different opinion ? Do you believe that the majority of people are down-to-earth and quote on quote - smart ?
     
  2. R.C

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    Close , I'm 21.
    However, when I say stupid , I don't mean uneducated in a certain field or stupid as in not doing well in school / college / what-have-you.

    I'm referring to...adaptive intelligence , so to speak. Making smart , considerate and efficient choices that would provide the best outcome out of a certain situation.

    For example , I have a acquaintance who doesn't work. Every single time I have a conversation with this person it's about how she never has enough money and how she always wants more. She loathes in self-pity.Still , she completely rejects the idea of getting a job , because it's "the man's responsibility to provide". The man in this case being her fiance.


    That's the stupidity I'm talking about , and that's the kind of mentality a lot of people have - in retrospect to their problems. They want something in life -> they do nothing about it -> they complain about how everyone is at fault except them -> repeat.
     
  3. perusan

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    And yet you will discuss other people's character traits and judge them as stupid. So you don't judge out of prejudice, you judge out of hypocrisy.

    I believe we are all born with equal potential where that potential has a multitude of possibilities. What we aren't born with is equal privilege. But to judge someone and label someone as stupid is an attempt to rob them of their potential. "You are stupid. In my eyes you belong in this box". That is not supportive. That is oppression of someone's potential. Whether you say it to their face, or not, just your reaction to someone, judging them and reacting to them in a different way you would call, quote unquote - smart, is oppressive.

    That is my personal opinion. And I only mention it here because this forum is about support, about not being judged and any talk of stupidness is moot here. We are ALL stupid or else we wouldn't be here.
     
  4. R.C

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    Stupidity is not a character trait. If you want to discuss mine , sure , why not. Except this doesn't seem to be the proper place.
    True. Except I never said "You're stupid , you belong in this box." I said "Your actions lead me to believe that you're stupid. YOU are choosing to be in this box."

    I said this before , there's a difference between judging and forming an educated opinion. It doesn't come down to "Oh,you have an opinion about this person / these people ? Well then you're a judgmental asshole" . It's not just black or white. Life is more complex than that.

    I disagree. I fail to see how someone is stupid for taking action against what they consider to be a problem. A desire (and acting on it) of improving one's self is on the complete opposite side of stupidity spectrum.
     
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  5. Mark

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    “I'll take crazy over stupid any day.” ~ Joss Whedon

    I’m not even going to comment on the post (except to say I thought some of Perusians observations were sublime) but I just thought I’d point out that the original post in this thread started out as a reply to this post I added a few days ago which contains a lovely piece of writing (not by me I hasten to add!)

    http://www.nofap.org/forum/showthread.php?3780-Men-Pornography-Intimacy-(This-made-me-cry-)

    And I have to admit that I’m not sure where I stand on the notion of most people in this world being stupid? I guess that does sound kind of harsh? Although it didn’t stop Albert Einstein…

    ‘Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.’

    I guess my preferred term would be ‘insane’ and please don’t get me wrong as there are certainly aspects of my own character that I would classify in such a manner, but at least I am aware of it and take all necessary action to (slowly) remedy:eek:

    Time is of the essence (gotta pick the kids up) but I simply cannot recommend the book in the link below enough as it makes a phenomenally lucid and compelling argument (far better than I could in this context!) for the clinical ‘insanity’ (literally!!) of the majority of the human race (and even animals that come into contact with, and are ‘domesticated’ by their ‘domesticated’ human counterparts)

    Please take a good look at the synopsis etc and see what you think (and I dare you not to buy it!;))…

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Back-Sanity...qid=1390579578&sr=1-1&keywords=back+to+sanity

    Alice said, when she found herself in Wonderland…

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?”

    Well just have a REALLY good look around you…

    “Just look at us.
    Everything is backwards, everything is upside down.
    Doctors destroy health,
    lawyers destroy justice,
    psychiatrists destroy minds,
    scientists destroy truth,
    major media destroys information,
    religions destroy spirituality,
    and governments destroy freedom.”
    ~ Michael Ellner

    “Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want to impress people they don't like.” ~ Will Rogers

    “If you think anyone is sane you just don't know enough about them.”
    ~ Christopher Moore


    …and I simply could not agree more, we are ALL, each and every one of us, MAD AS CHEESE!!;) http://zedge.net/r848727?src=d:D
     
  6. reecy

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    What a fucking idiot. This shitty little misogynist rant doesn't belong on this website, go back to the fucking middle ages.
     
  7. Silver

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    He seems to forget that men and woman form a balance called being a "human being". We evolved the way we live. Woman take care of the household and raise the children, men make sure they all survive. This was the basic way we split ourselves up. Men got stronger, evolved a (slight) different way of thinking, but the differences are minor. People seem to forget that "people" are generally more stupid than they might think. Everyone has flaws, everyone. Women tend to have the same "kind" of flaws, but so do men. Besides that, people are often smarter than they tend to show others. It's why you might think you are better than someone else, but they are thinking the exact same thing.

    Ever thought what would happen to the world (like seriously think) if there are only men, or only woman? In both cases I think the world as we know it will be doomed within a hundred years. We walk, talk and turn around each other not because men or woman are better. It's because we need each other.

    Same thing can be reflected with intelligence, race, looks, strength, motivation, passions etc across every single soul on this planet. You need different layers within society to make it work. You need intelligent people, you need less intelligent people, you need strong people, you need weaker people. Humankind evolved to have the kind of people available to make our society work. And that same society needs men and woman in all extremes.

    So yes, woman are annoying, weak, stubborn, emotional, unreasonable, but so am I. All in a different way, but so much alike. Try and see the bigger picture and small flaws become less important. Try to see the difference woman have as something positive, try thinking what would happen if everyone acted like men, or the other way around. In the end I can only come up with one conclusion, we need each other more than we'd like ;)
     
  8. December

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    WOW. This is one of three things. 1) Porn must've screwed up your brain THAT much. 2) You're salty because some woman dropped you for something better or 3) You are the most obvious troll anyone has ever seen. And for the record, I have never had sex with a guy and then fell in love. I was in love with my guy before sex.
     
  9. Artist

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    "I see women like Pink that are physically stronger than most men and I have a strong attraction to her strength - both physically and mentally...then there is like Scarlet Johannsen, so adorable and cute and I guess It brings out of us the males nurturing instinct."

    I think you just pointed out the flaw in your original stance on men/women. There is a very wide spectrum of masculine, feminine, strong, weak, protective, nurturing, creative, analytical traits across humanity. A biological male isn't always masculine and a biological female not always feminine. When given the freedom of choice, individuals can fall under any of these categories. Your view of gender is likely swayed by how your own parents acted (a child's primary role model is always the parent), but other people will have had different experiences. The world needs a mixture of individuals in order to function. The strong women who can protect their children, the nerdy types running the IT industry, the rugged firefighters, the delicate ballet dancers, the J K Rowlings and Terry Pratchetts, etc. Everyone is useful. The healthiest thing society can do is encourage individuals to thrive with whatever skill sets/personality types they have and work for everyone's best interest. Historically, our society was structured around religious views of gender types and women and men were pushed into very rigid social roles that are increasingly relaxed. In other societies and times things have been different. Humans haven't been around very long and I would bet money on society taking on a multitude of different forms in the future. Even now, you'll find societies in other parts of the world that hold very different ideas about gender and non-human animal societies that are structured differently.

    I know a lot of modern women are encouraged (through porn) to view themselves as primarily sexual objects and I'm assuming you've met some that seemed as though they were only interested in sex. I grew up around many that seemed to be turning themselves into human dolls (literally objects for sex) and it's really sad that we have reached that state. I could say the same for myself - I'm just as messed up and have only just realised it by random chance. It is social conditioning and not a healthy, natural state. Hopefully they will realise that too. But please don't base your opinion of all women on those few. Western society is very messed up at the moment, and men and women aren't always what they seem. Both sexes should be working together to change that, not turning it into a battle. The battle should be against the porn industry, the media and advertising industries, not each other.
     
  10. stygian

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    This post makes a lot more sense as a reply to Mark's post about gender, which it actually was, then as a post out of the blue. I found that post interesting too and thought that Mark wrote it, but I think it is a quotation.

    A lot of posters are saying not to be judgmental but at the same time are being judgmental against the OP. That's his world-view and it is clear that he does love women and is not trying to be disparaging in any way.

    Regarding intelligence, there is a range, and saying that someone is more intelligent or less intelligent is not an insult or a praise, unless one is attacking someone or intentionally giving a compliment. The OP mentioned that he believes that most men are stupid as well. I've known people are who extremely intelligent and they tend to have problems in interactions with others, not because of any intrinsic personality deficits, but because others think that they are acting overly intelligent, which in a sense they are, because they are acting at their actual intelligence level. It is only "overly" intelligent to someone less intelligent, who perceives that they are showing off, when it isn't actually the case. Everyone should be respected and not judged, for their qualities, skills, intelligence, etc, and not disparaged because of where one falls on a curve or in their beliefs, even if they differ from someone else or appear to be chauvinistic, in the primary or secondary definitions. If one's beliefs are due to a difficult upbringing, it is even more important to respect that person because they have gotten the bad end of the stick and are more in need of being accepted rather than shunned or made to feel as an outcast.
     

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