I first want to start off this thread with an important disclaimer. This is not at all a thread to discourage men from stopping on their NoFap and porn recovery journey, and is targeted more towards men with my specific problem. I am hoping that it may help others even if it goes against the tenets of what this forum is based on, and due to that I hope that no moderators find a need to silence this post. I've been on this forum for a long time, have made a friend with an accountability partner through here, and have even donated over the years, I think it's a great resource. With that being said, let me get into where my story begins. My sexual issues really started when I met up with a girl I once made out with at a concert. She had moved but was back in town, and we were going to meet at a hotel in NYC. Although it was not said flat out, it was abundantly clear that we were meeting up for sex. My sexual history has been limited, and as someone who at the time suffered with anxiety (not so much now, thank God) it was a pretty high pressure situation to deliver. Without going into detail since that's not what this site is here for, we did it, I thought it went alright, but when I came she looked me in the eyes, "that's it?" It absolutely crushed me, and she'll never know how much those words completely fucked with my mental state for years to come. Shit, this was back in 2014, so that says it all. It wasn't long after that, I fell into my darkest depression ever, which coincided with compulsive P use. I don't believe I had any PE issues prior, but her callous words truly effected my psyche, and you can chalk it up to negative manifestation of some sort, but I absolutely developed a severe PE issue. I started with NoFap, and stuck with it on and off for years. It did some wonders for me which I will never deny. The superpowers are truly real. You will find yourself having spurts of unbelievable energy, life will be more vivid, you will be more engaged, but there is a negative side. Or at least there was in my case. The benefits listed are why I never gave up on the program, and had streaks of 45 days and even 90 days one time. What it never fixed though, was the extreme PE that I had developed. I know now that it in fact made it worse. I have some embarrassing stories, but I'll just get into the most recent. While getting a massage on a streak (yes, a legit massage. I have gotten a more erotic massage from an AMP, this was not the case in this point) I had to stop at one point because I truly felt like I was going to O any second with a soft penis just during a back rub. My body was craving to let the semen out, and this was not the first time this kind of a thing happened to me. Up until now, I didn't let that stop me from staying with NoFap. Especially because after I'd end a streak, I'd have the dreaded hangover you guys know of. Massive headaches, huge drop in energy, etc. This time though, I decided I needed to fix this PE issue once and for all. I have been masturbating again. Not to P, just me. This time working to go as long as possible. I will time myself and start and stop, waiting for my penis to get soft right before that the point of no return and then resuming. 5 minutes. 10 minutes. Controlling my breath and slowing down. I have to tell you guys, it has worked. Prolonging my O has me feeling like I did when I first discovered this, and not like the compulsive habit of which I developed in later years that many of you have experienced. O'ing in 5 seconds out of habit had taken any of the rush I once had, and it was now just pure compulsion. And to be honest, my bad feelings after masturbation have stopped as well. I think much of it was psychosomatic of that feeling, "if I do this, I break my streak" and feeling worthless after. I've let that shame go. Yes, I am still someone who can be very compulsive with both masturbation and P use at my core. I need to be vigilant against those. But I am here to tell you my own experience, and simply put again, some of you guys this resounds with don't need to be stuck on this hard mode in hopes that your PE issue will change. I'm living proof of it. Hard mode may be beneficial to getting off the compulsive porn use and masturbating. Long term though, you may need to get back to regular masturbation but in the habit of prolonging it, and not with P use. Doing this regularly for the first time this week has me confident for the first time in years, that if the moment arrives to have sex again, I will be okay. I will be able to control myself. To be able to start and stop and go for a 10 minute session is amazing, as just weeks ago, just poking my penis would result in an uncontrolled O in literally 5 seconds...no joke. I feel good. Truly. If you’re at all worried about losing those nutrients like zinc that you lose with an O, take a zinc supplememt like ZMA before bed to replenish. If this doesn't apply to you, discard it. That's okay. For others though, I hope this may help. I feel it's my duty to tell you this because someone may need to hear it.