Why in the world many guys in nofap are blaming women and have a hatred for them?

ForeverChanges

ForeverChanges

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lt is not our fault if we fell into PMO. It is the system that wants everyone addicted to something, to be weak and thus easy to control. But often happens some people once they start to hit the road of enlightment they start with those ridiculous speeches about women trying to steal their seed, to undermine their confidence, to suck their energy.... so here is what l want to say: The longer you continue being misogynes the longer you will be trapped in the s...t. The aim is easy, to be free. The way to do it? To try to do itin an honest way. Blame only brings blame. The hardest thing to do it is to forgive and letting go.
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Cause they are all incels, people who blame women for their social awkwardness and inability to talk to women without thinking only about sex.
They will only spend their life being always the same person, playing videogames and staying at home, incapable of changing their life.
These kind of people are the real losers.
 
Because they are incels and losers.

But to answer the root cause, its because of the toxic red pill theory. Red pill people are typically bitter and tend to blame women for their nature. It creates a negative image of women as some hypergamous creature with no emotions. Not really true. It has good but overall is nothing original and just paints a bad image of all women as bad and selfish.

Being red pill is like some sort of identity. Im so red pill! Look at that blue pill man! When in reality they are the betas.
 
I do believe that people who agree with this bullshit are the greatest loosers of the planet, why? I have seen some of these comment's here too, and many guys also say that 'women only care about money and bla bla bla poor me, women are bad, they only care about status'. That's only because they feel insecure about themselves, and that shit is real, it is a fucking cancer in society. I think the only way to win all these bad examples is to just don't play that game. Let people believe in what they want, but don't buy that idea to yourself, blame women for your lack of confidence is the most retarded thing a grown man can make...
 
Not me man. I take women case by case. Humans you know...I just realise most are so bloody average just like on the mens side. Right?! You become normal after years of hard work only to realise you woke up in a world that is not all sunshine and rainbows and time can be quite precious hahaha the irony of the warriors journey. I had a skewed illusion of reality in my head along the whole time?
- Always do *gun pointed*
 
sclguy said:
Water is wet. The snark isn't direct to you, but to the people who "find out" there can be evil women. Of course there are good people, just like there are bad people. And that includes both men and... ahoy... women.



I think you hit the nail on the head. And while I thankfully never became a Redpiller, or similar, I did notice that my compulsions and porn made me (internally) uneasy to interact with women, as my brain was sending me "waves of objectifications" and would go into flirting mode. And that really sucks and is no way to interact with women. I would stop myself from outright flirting and have always tried to maintain composure. But of this then lead to a disappointed reward center and all kinds of confusing mental states.

And of course that would lead me to not be as "popular" with the opposite sex as I used to be. I was an incoherent mess internally. And that crap shines through, IMO. So yeah, the notorious 'women-haters' might take a look inside and figure out what's wrong with themselves.
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Thanks, sclguy. What I understood is that women have that fantastic power to inspect you internally, to know your struggles and your real self. Everything you are, shines outside your body, as you said, and they can feel it, they can see it.
So why don't we try to change? Why don't we try to improve as men?

Women weren't made to be fucked by men, to be used. They were made to show men that there's still something candid and pure in this world.
I am not Christian, so don't confuse what I am saying.

We should learn to be men, real ones. Because women aren't constricted to be with a man, they choose their men.
We shouldn't see it as a crime but as a challenge. We could be the ones chosen by a beautiful woman with elegant manners.
We could be her man. So work hard and win this challenge, for good.
 
Something about masturbating, and lust. It makes you go through a hard time. Like reality conspires against one who engages in that. Hard to make sense of it when it would happen to me. Unleashes hells into your life. I held resentments towards some people over what would happen to me, I failed to see the connection to lust. I had bitter resentments towards both men and women. Now that I stopped PMO and started caring about other people. I'm not consumed with narcissism. I don't harbor any resentments, I'm happy. Even some people who really wronged me. I pray for them and wish them to have a happy life. I think they might have some PMO problems of their own. I just feel blessed to be where I am now.
 
Yes, it is great no to feel hurt or feel resentment for stories past. The badassness is growing inside me and l can laugh at obstacles more than feeling that little miserable poor guy l was feeling in the past. And somehow women notice that. If l were one year and a half in the past and l had this feeling l'd believe l was in some sort of hallucinatory state but now l feel l earned and deserved this.
 
Abzu said:
because they expose their body in skimpy clothes which causes temptation
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To me now, when I see a woman in skimpy clothes it's like they are desperate for attention. It's silly. It doesn't tempt me, it's funny and kind of gross. If there's a picture of them for the future in that way, I think it might be embarrassing when skimpy clothes fashion trends go away. It will be seen as an embarrassing thing they partook in. Kind of like racism was. It will just be a sign of how confused and pathetic we all were. In order to attract a boyfriend to want to interact a woman practically has to be naked because she has to compete with all the porn on the internet for his attention. That sort of thing.
 
I now understand that it's just the porn industry and me - one idiot and bunch of smartass assholes - to be blamed for my addiction.
 
sclguy said:
In my opinion it's 75% us, 25% the porn industry. As with cigarettes, alcohol and drugs, they all do exist, but whether we become heavy smokers, alcoholists or drug addicts is mostly up to us. We can't blame industries for OUR personal shortcomings. What can and should be done, however, is trying to regulate Internet porn, making access to the websites more difficult for minors. For example, by having to register with a scan of your personal document before accessing porn videos might be one way.
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Yeah, but when for example, 13 year old me saw a naked girl... It wasnt just like smoking. Like, sure, you can choose wherever you watch it or not, but porn feels different. It's nature. It's not just chemicals in brain, it's man's nature working.
 
sclguy said:
Yeah, I know. Which is why porn needs regulation, and be less easily accessible to minors. Taking down the entire porn industry and hoping it all rots in hell just won't happen, isn't practical and won't lead to any real life solutions. Creating awareness, and then trying to push for a certain set of rules seems like the way to go.

And I do agree that porn can be as dangerous as cigarettes, alcohol and drugs, if not more, but we also should be able to take on our responsibilites (which does not mean carrying a burden) and see our own shortcomings. It was there, and some responded in an outrageously unhealthy way.

Like I've said, we don't have to carry a burden (forgiving ourselves for our mistakes is an integral part in avoiding that), but coming to terms with the mistakes WE made, the things WE need to change about ourselves and the addictions WE need to get rid of seems like an indispensable step. Otherwise we'll keep blaming things and people without any positive results. The porn industry is shady, but it never quite pointed a gun to our heads, forcing us to indulge so heavily and neglect other aspects of our lives.
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Well, yes, that's my point, man. We should stop doing it. And until we haven't stopped the addiction, until we don't battle it - it's our fault, since now we are concious.
 
@ForeverChanges alright this is going to set me on fire a bit forever, so bear with. I'm gonna give you my experience; no pulling punches back.

risking decapitating my own head. I will say my OBJECTIVE TRUTH based on experience. I'm not gonna reply about this; not arguing it, because I KNOW women do this.

Men and women have alot in common, but many key differences. A woman will do far different things than a man. No man has ever harmed me the way women have.

I'm from Toronto. Now this is the absolute worst place in North America for men. This is not open for debate it is a fact. North American culture IS A CULT OF MISANDRY. I do not care if you disagree cause I know it is true. We also IDOLIZE the female. This is a form of IDOLATRY. Sex is the Holy sacrament, women the goddess; Who don't use the bathroom and all come from heaven. Puke and spit on this propganda.

Men have been castrated Via porn, Reducing our role as protector provider; turning average male into a vomiticious lardass pathetic excuse for masculinity. If I was God I would not even look at most males in our piece of shit Satanic society. We have been forced to accept female superiority. BULLSHIT LIE! They are INFERIOR to males in a huge way. They are good at raising families, nurturing and etc. The fuck is this shit? U really believe the lioness is gonna fight the lion and win? No watch him take them women after he conquered the pride and be as t or killed the last Mufasa; infanticiding the baby lions to bring the lioness into heat.

My mother x-gf and landlady ruined my life. All in a few months. Lies cheating stealing manipulations and betrayals. Almost every girl I had here was a piece of shit. Only one was okay and still fuck up my life.

Alright. Men best women in.main differences are: physical power, logic, justice and courage.

Women: intuition,nurturing emotional power very strong auric field.

Western society fucks women up. Currently we have the worst women in the world. Easily. I know this from experience.

If you disagree with me; if u want to bash me or call me a bigger misogynistic bastard womanizer go ahead. It's better than being a politically correct lying traitor who can't tell the truth in the mirror in the morning.

I'm done talking here
 
Αλέξανδρος said:
Cause they are all incels, people who blame women for their social awkwardness and inability to talk to women without thinking only about sex.
They will only spend their life being always the same person, playing videogames and staying at home, incapable of changing their life.
These kind of people are the real losers.
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and sadly, I'm all of them
 
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