Why in the world many guys in nofap are blaming women and have a hatred for them?

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by ForeverChanges, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. ForeverChanges

    ForeverChanges Fapstronaut

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    lt is not our fault if we fell into PMO. It is the system that wants everyone addicted to something, to be weak and thus easy to control. But often happens some people once they start to hit the road of enlightment they start with those ridiculous speeches about women trying to steal their seed, to undermine their confidence, to suck their energy.... so here is what l want to say: The longer you continue being misogynes the longer you will be trapped in the s...t. The aim is easy, to be free. The way to do it? To try to do itin an honest way. Blame only brings blame. The hardest thing to do it is to forgive and letting go.
    Edit: typo crap.
     
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  2. Aléxandros

    Aléxandros Fapstronaut

    Cause they are all incels, people who blame women for their social awkwardness and inability to talk to women without thinking only about sex.
    They will only spend their life being always the same person, playing videogames and staying at home, incapable of changing their life.
    These kind of people are the real losers.
     
  3. Blaming others is always easier than working on yourself.
     
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  4. If u wanna hit the road of enlightenment you should do nothing
     
  5. I've read in works that hating women is a way of getting them to like you. I imagine it's desperation in most cases. Also, there are some terrible women out there, that both men and women despise.
     
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  6. ach52

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    Because they are incels and losers.

    But to answer the root cause, its because of the toxic red pill theory. Red pill people are typically bitter and tend to blame women for their nature. It creates a negative image of women as some hypergamous creature with no emotions. Not really true. It has good but overall is nothing original and just paints a bad image of all women as bad and selfish.

    Being red pill is like some sort of identity. Im so red pill! Look at that blue pill man! When in reality they are the betas.
     
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  7. thinking_differently

    thinking_differently Fapstronaut

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    Losers.
    Focus on what’s in your control: Yourself.
     
  8. Tari Legong

    Tari Legong Fapstronaut

    I do believe that people who agree with this bullshit are the greatest loosers of the planet, why? I have seen some of these comment's here too, and many guys also say that 'women only care about money and bla bla bla poor me, women are bad, they only care about status'. That's only because they feel insecure about themselves, and that shit is real, it is a fucking cancer in society. I think the only way to win all these bad examples is to just don't play that game. Let people believe in what they want, but don't buy that idea to yourself, blame women for your lack of confidence is the most retarded thing a grown man can make...
     
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  9. ShowProof

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    Not me man. I take women case by case. Humans you know...I just realise most are so bloody average just like on the mens side. Right?! You become normal after years of hard work only to realise you woke up in a world that is not all sunshine and rainbows and time can be quite precious hahaha the irony of the warriors journey. I had a skewed illusion of reality in my head along the whole time?
    - Always do *gun pointed*
     
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  10. sclguy

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    Water is wet. The snark isn't direct to you, but to the people who "find out" there can be evil women. Of course there are good people, just like there are bad people. And that includes both men and... ahoy... women.

    I think you hit the nail on the head. And while I thankfully never became a Redpiller, or similar, I did notice that my compulsions and porn made me (internally) uneasy to interact with women, as my brain was sending me "waves of objectifications" and would go into flirting mode. And that really sucks and is no way to interact with women. I would stop myself from outright flirting and have always tried to maintain composure. But of course this then lead to a disappointed reward center and all kinds of confusing mental states.

    And of course that would lead me to not be as "popular" with the opposite sex as I used to be. I was an incoherent mess internally. And that crap shines through, IMO. So yeah, the notorious 'women-haters' might take a look inside and figure out what's wrong with themselves.
     
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  11. Aléxandros

    Aléxandros Fapstronaut

    Thanks, sclguy. What I understood is that women have that fantastic power to inspect you internally, to know your struggles and your real self. Everything you are, shines outside your body, as you said, and they can feel it, they can see it.
    So why don't we try to change? Why don't we try to improve as men?

    Women weren't made to be fucked by men, to be used. They were made to show men that there's still something candid and pure in this world.
    I am not Christian, so don't confuse what I am saying.

    We should learn to be men, real ones. Because women aren't constricted to be with a man, they choose their men.
    We shouldn't see it as a crime but as a challenge. We could be the ones chosen by a beautiful woman with elegant manners.
    We could be her man. So work hard and win this challenge, for good.
     
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  12. sclguy

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    I agree with almost anything you say, but let's be careful about not overdoing it in the opposite direction, though. I don't think women would like to have to live up to being "candid and pure." They're human beings, which includes everything that comes with the package: strenghts, weaknesses, imperfections, etc.

    They're not angelic, celestial beings riddled with the task to save the world. They're human. :)
     
  13. Something about masturbating, and lust. It makes you go through a hard time. Like reality conspires against one who engages in that. Hard to make sense of it when it would happen to me. Unleashes hells into your life. I held resentments towards some people over what would happen to me, I failed to see the connection to lust. I had bitter resentments towards both men and women. Now that I stopped PMO and started caring about other people. I'm not consumed with narcissism. I don't harbor any resentments, I'm happy. Even some people who really wronged me. I pray for them and wish them to have a happy life. I think they might have some PMO problems of their own. I just feel blessed to be where I am now.
     
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  14. sclguy

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    I assume any kind of unhealthy addiction will do that to you. You've got a huge void to fill, and the only we you know how to fill it is with the very think you're hooked on. But the void never fills, you feel increasingly empty and grow more and more desperate and resentful. It sets in motion a vicious circle which you have problems escaping from. The thoughts in your head become louder and angrier.

    There is only one way you can truly fill that void. Through HEALTHY habits. Good, positive feelings. Love. Empathy. Compassion. Altruism. And if you may, God. Something (positive) to believe in.
     
  15. ForeverChanges

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    Yes, it is great no to feel hurt or feel resentment for stories past. The badassness is growing inside me and l can laugh at obstacles more than feeling that little miserable poor guy l was feeling in the past. And somehow women notice that. If l were one year and a half in the past and l had this feeling l'd believe l was in some sort of hallucinatory state but now l feel l earned and deserved this.
     
  16. Abzu

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    because they expose their body in skimpy clothes which causes temptation
     
  17. sclguy

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    Dude, I hope you're kidding.
     
  18. Aléxandros

    Aléxandros Fapstronaut

    Man what's wrong with you?
     
  19. sclguy

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    @Abzu: Even if you were surrounded by women in bikinis (which happens if you go to the beach), both the problem AND the solution come from the inside. You're overwhelmingly tempted because you've lost self control. Blaming other people (and women) won't help you. It's YOU who has to regain self-control, not them having to dress more.
     
  20. Scapegoat

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    It all depends on your self control and ability to stand up and be strong despite all of her shit tests that she will run to find out if you are really a real man. The more strong and self controlled you are the more women will respect you and you will respect them back. The more uncontrolled and internally weak you are the more women will become disobedient and harsh toward you and you will be harsh towards them back.
    Having said that there are women and men out there that are terrible and should be watched out for so use your discretion at all situations.
     
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