Why people hate Incels?

If you haven't seen what simps do these days, you're in for a shocker. I don't think all incels really hate women. There might be some who are incels for other more normal reasons. Just because a man doesn't have sex, people consider him to dislike women in general. It's sad.

Personally, I wouldn't but there might be people who do. You can never know for sure.

I really don't like Disney so that's probably why I didn't get this. It would be helpful if you explained (seriously).

 

"Not "some", 90 % according to NoFap officials. You seem to be still confused, what the "NoFap" brand is about."
I believe its more than 90%. Addictions cannot be cured eventually you will relapse again and again. But a singular masturbation in months doesn't hurts that much as before.

"Most people trying to quit "PMO" are religious and want to quit looking at naughty stuff and pleasing themselves for religious reasons."
I don't care about the reasoning there are people who do it for a variaty of reasons. I'm not religious and I'm doing it.
The point is, its a perfect place to practice avoiding PMO and noone will tell you to return to masturbation.
The creators may think otherwise, but they havent made it impossible to stay away from masturbation forever.
So I think its pretty safe to say its a good website for people who avoid PMO.
Yes, I didn't know that nofap is neutral to fap positive. But since I find people who avoid PMO forever and noone will tell me otherwise I don't mind it.

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It mentions "porn addict" 8 times, "pornography addict" 3 times, but "sex addiction" exactly once. People don't read this, which is the reason why they always get confused.

The above are all concepts I don't believe in. I neither believe in "pornography addiction", "Porn-Induced Erectile Disfunction", nor do I believe in "moderate" or "healthy" masturbation. And exactly that helps me with my recovery"

Well I'm not saying you should or should not believe in something.
After years(!) of connecting sexuality to porn avoiding pornography is a huge struggle.
Same way, as ignoring alcohol as an alcoholic.
You may call it whatever you like.

Erectile disfunctions can be caused by anything.
The main reasoning behind PIED is , that the more hardcore action you watch daily, the less interesting "normal" sex will be. Which makes sense. Couple that with unhealthy masturbation practices like the death grip, or laying on your stomach, or masturbating with a limp penis and the damage is done.

I won't say any masturbation is healthy, but consuming any alcohol is also not healthy.
Yet people who drink a beer once in a week won't start to lock themselves into the rehab.
Same thing for people who visit parties.
Healthy people can make healthy choices.

Same with masturbation, most people who masturbate are happy with it. They won't notice any problems connected to masturbation.
If you are not one of those people thats perfectly okay. Noone said you should do it.
Yes it may be a waste of time, but look at ourselves. Isn't visiting nofap the same waste of time?

 

Share some of these, it sounds entertaining, and I want to make sure I'm not inadvertently doing any myself.

I don't watch the new cartoons but I grew up with the old stuff. They portray woman as being the direct opposite of what they actually are, what they are being self complacent, narcissistic, arrogant - just a matter of degree - and that men are supposed to be their knight in shining armor worshippers who must prove themselves through acts of heroism, as seen in "Sleeping Beauty" etc. The really strange thing is that men made these movies, so was it really that different back then? Or, more likely, it was just a really appealing fantasy for them.

 

I'm not going to share these but I suggest you go to https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSimpPolice/. It's one of my favorite subreddits. I know it's not nice to laugh at people but the things these people do!

Feminists complain about the damsel in distress. Guess that if you look at it in a different way, they're right.

 

I had only seen the word simp a few times before. I just realized that masturbation is simp behaviour, degrading oneself because of a woman. I have done other simp things before, although not as bad as those examples but bad enough.

 

Every single male with parents raised and groomed in western culture and female ideology mindset, has been a SIMP more or less for atleast a period of time in his/hers/it life and make no apologies for not being a psycho who not adhere to social conditiong whatsoever. Ok.

Just reaching out to girls these days you are either SIMPing or in a early process of becoming one (road of a thousand concessions...) if you are not in the top 15-20 percent of men who do not need to chase women, or even bother trying to much to attract and keep them close.

 

Because Incels have a problem leaving the Black pill mindset and levelling up like proper MGTOWs do and thats bad.

 

Why people hate Incels?
My question is why do you U use that red pill negtive term to decribe yourself?

 

It goes beyond sex entitlement, a good chunk of them could've sex with any hooker willing to do the job if they wanted to, what they want goes far above that.

 

Because incels are loosers

 

I'm not an incel but I can safely say that in general, Americans are very socially inept and hostile individuals. Their way of live fosters conflict, isolation, and violence. They do not accept those with lifestyles that differ from their own, so when the very concept of "incel" starts to arise, they lose their shit and go haywire on these types of people.

In other words, Americans suck.

 

To be fair. Social behaviour and society is a factor to be blamed. If no one wants to be with them or love them how they are. It’s probably because of societal expectations.
Only problem is. Quite a few have generally not very nice personalities. But with all the people in the world. There has to be someone who loves and accepts them how they are. The truth is that they are that bitter because of societal expectations and how they get beat down their whole lives and told how worthless they are. Yes it’s society to blame for why they are so bitter, yes it’s them to blame for not being strong enough to change. Everyone says past a certain age you’re fucked for change. So society made them that way. Now it may be too late and that’s just who they are. So now society messed them up usually, now society is telling them to man up and change, when it may be too late, while also everyone pushes to love people how they are. That’s how they are now. It’s both. And everyone should feel bad for people that got pushed that far down by their peers.

 

I personally believe anyone can change into anything they want to at any given time. It is sad some people are so conditioned as to believe there is no hope for them in society.

 

To be fair, there are also other nationalities who share similar problems, the main thing that ties all of these together is the glorification of Thug Life, Hollywood does this in their movies, a good chunk of games do it as well and so on so forth, as a result Americans suffer far more from Thug Life problems than other countries, because they promote Thug Life more than anyother country.

They even have institutions and books who promote, this remember "In defense of Looting" who the hell would argue for such a thing if they arent Thugs themselves? It's sheer pure, thug life promotion and thats why America's full of riots, bitterness, etc... But make no mistake this also happens to some of their neighboors like Mexico and Brazil, in Favelas, etc...

Tying it to Incels, the radical minority of Incels that doesnt believe in the possibility of "Ascending" stick to the easy way "Thug Life" and die with their guns/knives after taking out a few people, but again this is a problem with cultures in nations promoting Thug Life, which is common standard in many countries worldwide, since in the Old days, the only way to be respected in horrible places was to act like a Accomplished Thug.

Because the court system is bad and a civilized Incel can easily be screwed by a naughty girl, most incels who suffer from this are likely to resort to thuggish ways if their obcession with "ascending" isnt met after a while.

 

I think incel is the same thing as a loser. Or... They are just the same. Incel is loser. He has losers mentality and that is that. He has that weak point in his head. He might be good at certain things in life - sure - but he whines, bitches about stuff, cause he has some trauma or problem in past that he is too weak to face and let it go.
I wasn't far from becoming one until I realized that - FUCK IT! The only reason behind lack of my success is a dude who is standing and looking at me in the mirror.
Not my friends, enemies. Not dudes on beaches with six-packs. What someone else even HAS TO DO with me sucking ass? NOTHING!
So the same goes here. Guy has an insecurity, can't face it or just doesn't want to face it and starts putting crap on society or dudes who are successful.
So why a guy like me (wanting to become better, stronger - motivated in general towards winning and living a good life) would want to have tiniest sympathy for guys who just bitch about shit? Stinky mentality if you ask me. It's just toxic.
Also, wanted to add: Man has to be useful - just like female. For some so called "incels" it seems like a shitty way of thinking, and at first it sounds like... People are supposed to be tools or something?? But it's not that simple, yet not that complicated. It's about him or her being capable of doing things that provide feeling of safety, makes you feel like at home. So if there's a whining dude who claims how nice he is and how he would never kill a bug (meaning protect house/himself/herself) and how he is not that dude with six-pack and whole lotta muscles to flex with (meaning being capable of also protecting himself/herself/kids) cause it's just some of that "popular asshole bullshit", he will struggle to find a girl to live with.
Females need protection. They need a man who brings food home, who supports them and helps to raise children, gathers resources. Meanwhile man needs an alpha female who can also stand up for herself in really bad situation, can feed a kid and is a good mother. Simple.

 

They are indeed losers as I pointed out before they can "Ascend" whenever they want so long as they walk to a hooker with some money in their pocket, now if they are low class Incels with no job and still in School I'd understand, but a lot of Incels are middle class dudes with internet access there's no way they dont have the money to "Ascend" whenever they want.

And what they want is ironically easily achieved by going MGTOW working for the grind, getting good money and then go to some cheap country and live the life, the girls in those places will take Western dudes.

What they cant expect is Western Tinderella to marry them, when she has a match for 10 guy on Tinder and feeling the Butterflies, it's unrealistic.

 

I feel like this term is thrown around a lot as an insult to any kind of guy who is a bit awkward or lacking in confidence.

I find it to be quite cruel actually.

I wonder, would Travis Bickle be an incel? Or Holden Caulfield? Or uhh...Mr. Bean?

Some dudes are not super social and 'cool' or whatever but still have value. Indeed, many dudes have the old 'wound and the bow' thing where the messed up insecure part of them is also what fuels them to be unique and interesting. Just doesn't always manifest itself into seduction skills.

I don't really see how ability to have sex is some sort of amazing thing that should define your whole being. Almost anyone can do it if they go out and get drunk and approach enough people who are also drinking. It's almost kind of a dumb animal thing. It's not all there is.