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Why the hell is porn legal?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by StepUp28, Nov 6, 2021.

  1. That's really sad to hear.
     
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  2. Going against the grain here, but I don't believe porn should be illegal, or banned, or blocked from viewing.

    I'm a big believer in self discipline, and that people should have the choice and the willpower. I think it's very encouraging that the NoFap has exploded in the last decade, and the journey through it has enabled people to recognise so many issues in their own lives.

    Making it illegal or banning it, will just drive people to other things to fill the hole in their lives. They might just use sex scenes from mainstream movies, use gaming, or find ways past the technology. Maybe people will revert to fapping to social media images, and that could lead to a dark path in terms of stalking and obsession. It's an "easy" way to potentially resolve the issues that porn cause, but it would probably have unintended consequences.

    We've also got all the focus on virtual reality, and you know that sex is likely to be a big thing with that. Sure, shut down the porn industry, but people will turn to VR for their hits, and then what? Shut down virtual reality? For any Star Trek fans, there's always the awkward silence when the question is posed, 'if you had access to the Holodeck, what would you create?' How many of you would resist creating a love scene if you had that technology, knowing that the creation wasn't a sentient being? Think most of us would fail to be honest. Mastering our desires is the ultimate goal. Removing the source completely never truly gives us the choice to say no to porn when you believe you've rebooted. You won't truly know if you've conquered that carnal sexual instinct within.

    It's very easy for us as Nofappers to call for porn to be banned, or the industry to shut down, because it'd help us big time, and we think it'd help others too. Maybe it would help some, but it'd also drive others to something else, or the rise of "illegal" porn. You'd never be fully rid of it.

    The key is for the growth of the NoFap, things like NoNutNovember bring awareness and education, and for society to start addressing its issues. More people are on anti-depressants than ever before. More divorces, more affairs, more suicides, more broken families. Address those issues, and the need for society to look to alternatives will dissipate.
     
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  3. An0nym0use1234

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    I was thinking about this thread yesterday. I don't think porn should be illegal. Lots of people use it without issue.

    I do think that they should require sites to have warnings on the header and before and after videos that state that pornography is addictive and describe the symptoms and list the outcomes of porn addiction.

    Same thing with cigarettes.
     
  4. iwillnevergiveup

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    https://bigthink.com/neuropsych/how-to-build-good-habits/

    Why you are so scare PORN, PORN is nothing.

    PMO is just a habit through a lot of repetition, dealing with stress. The key word is repetition, pleasure is nothing. Repetition beats pleasure. The brain works on pattern, nothing more than that.

    Your fear is holding you back, it trick me almost on day 7 and 11.
     
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  5. YoungLenny

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    i think every pornsite should atleast have some sort of age limit registration, and every parent should warn their kids about the dangers of porn
     
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  6. Nugget9

    Nugget9 Fapstronaut

    This stuff was set up as a control on the populations and it has worked and it will always work. Our society is founded and looked after by the worst of the worst people.
     
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  7. I would like porn to be banned. But, I don’t think it’s possible. First, there’s always a demand for it (mostly from men). Second, there’s millions of porn websites on the internet. How are you going to block that? Third, anyone can make a porn these days with smartphones. Fourth, websites have no clue who the visitor is, they just know that a visitor is there. Fifth, the porn industry is evil and sexually exploitative, they could care less about the health of their consumers.
     
  8. Sylveon389

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    Damn. That's a little harsh.
     
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  9. Legacy of Lost Soul

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    Its a targeted demoralisation of society. The same thing happened in pre war germany.

    Lots of things which happened in pre war germany is happening worldwide. Same ppl behind it.
     
  10. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    Can you explained what happened with porn in pre-war Germany?
     
  11. PegasusKid

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    I don't think people being addicted to something necessarily warrants it being completely banned unless theres a convincing argument that it is mostly objectively harmful(crack cocaine,pcp,etc).I think what should happen is, similar to cigarettes, there be more of an effort to inform people of the dangers of porn without underlying religious agenda(this is one of the biggest issues with trying to explain to people why pmo can be harmful). Just a straight, objective analysis of the potential harms and more of an effort to limit it to adults only(of course teens will still find a way, but i think the fact that one of the biggest porn sites in the world doesn't even bother to ask for your age anymore says a lot). But like weed, alcohol, psychedelics or whatever other substances people use in a healthy way, you gotta take self responsibility at some point and stop trying to hold the world accountable to make it harder for you to indulge in your addiction.

    You gotta understand we're the outliers, most people who use porn do not identify as porn addicts and can use porn casually and still have healthy relationships and they may even watch porn together while still having a good sexual relationship, and while its fair to say some of them may be in denial, that's still a lot of people saying they're not addicted. Surely not every single one of them or even most of them are in denial? I don't say this to make an argument for using porn obviously, i just say this to simply say its like drinking, most people can handle a drink even if once in a while they go a bit overboard, they're not at all clinically addicted. The people who are addicted need serious help, but to put the world on timeout just because of those people would only make people want to indulge in the substance more. I love that sites like this exist so that we can have the common struggle of pmo and talk to each other about it, but we can't just try to have the world bend to our will.
     
  12. iwillnevergiveup

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    Are there anyone have acne scar?
     
  13. Da User

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    I don't think it should be illegal, yes it has a very big impact in our lives (same with alcohol and ciggarets) but people would find a way to watch it through illegal ways and that would make the situation worser...

    I think it would be better if governments would put an age restriction barrier that can only be bypassed with a password which only people over 18 /21 can take/buy. This would protect children from P.

    Edit: Prostitution is legal in many countries.
     
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  14. We already have something like this. It's called a credit-card check. Even if the website doesn't take money, it can still use credit card details to verify your age.
     
  15. Dizzy Lotus

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    The only time I've ever seen this was on YouTube, and only as of recently. And I have visited several porn sites in the past year, sadly. Mind by the way, that most people don't have a credit card. At least not where I live. Not that I would mind if few people could access porn... [​IMG] Although I suppose that if a credit card was mandatory for watching porn, a lot more people would buy a credit card. [​IMG]
     
  16. Why the hell is government legal?
     
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  17. Fullyawake

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    Porn creates worries. It creates dependence. Lust turns people into liars, deceivers, and manipulators. Their actions towards others are based on the craving to get what they feel they need. Just as a junkie will do about anything to get his fix, so someone steeped in lust will do about anything to be self-gratified.
     
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  18. In the country I live, porn was illegal and if you were caught with porn material in your possession you were arrested. That all changed at some point unfortunately and now porn is everywhere everyday.
     
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  19. This is what I’ve always believed. Porn is like alcohol you can make it illegal but it will always exist because society has already accepted it and been influenced by it. I think the last thing you want to do is push it underground because I believe that’s not only going to create an black market for it but that market is also going to not be regulated by anyone meaning there will be more extreme porn available.

    Also whether you or I like it it’s not really fair to the people who enjoy porn to take that away from them. Maybe there is a middle ground though. What do you think about going back to how it was in the 90s when internet porn wasn’t really a thing and it was DVDs, magazines, adult theatres etc. I feel like with that it’s a bit easier to avoid porn and kids especially wouldn’t have access to it. At the end of the day as cliche as it sounds I really don’t like how easy it easy for the young ones to access. PMO has pretty much ruined most of my life because it became my ingrained in me at such a young age. I don’t like seeing gen Z and Gen alpha be affected by it so heavily either. It’s much worse for them because there is so much extreme content available on the front page of just about any adult website. I do believe there is a conversation to be had and more practical steps to be taken to make it harder to gain access to. But I think at this moment unfortunately most people don’t really take it seriously.
     
  20. modernstore99

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