Why you Shouldn't Masturbate

you'll be a man.

 

I think basic understanding of how neurochemistry works could benefit one life time. If you stop consuming white sugar, your palette gets so on point that you can taste the sweetness of a tomato. It's the same way with the brain.
While masturbating, we make our brain bathe in serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine and endorphins for too much. If you stop masturbating, your brain palette gets adjusted to baseline. Hence the benefits of NoFap.

 

Yeah I see no point in masterbating at this point in my life. I don’t crave masterbation. I am not addicted to it. Porn is the problem. But masterbating for me has no benefits other than those moments of a very moderate level of pressure. I don’t find it very satisfying alone. Porn is very satisfying to me for a few minutes, but then it becomes a nightmare (mainly the aftermath, the consequences of doing it). I find a lot of benefits from abstaining from masterbation. I feel like it makes me feel stronger and more clear. More energy. More attracted to women. So I just haven’t done it in awhile. Been 4 months.

 

Masturbating and porn destroyed my life - I think that you are presenting the facts "Masturbation" on a too good perspective, which common folk think of its advantages.

People who e.g. drink lots of alcohol will say as well that "drinking alcohol is not harmful" or that "it can relieve stress".
People who smoke will say as well that smoking "relieves stress" and "feels awesome".

If we feel better when I masturbate, it is for a brief moment. We feel shit for hours, day or even weeks after the relapse. If we think on the long-term, we can imagine what is worth it.

(I actually did not see the Not masturbating has it's benefits too..., and I was going to really get angry to that. lol.)

There are way more disadvantages of Masturbating. Millions of.

I always lost interest in things I was interested after I relapsed. After masturbating I started working out, I started taking care of my looks, and I started to invest more in myself. I changed entirely as a person - without a doubt.

I relapsed recently, and it is shocking how true it is. The negativity and urges want to re-gain control of my body, but I am resisting with my spirit of victory!

This is a good article about the topic: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/studies-address-masturbation

 

@Latinboy32 Thank you for your support, but I was beyond 50 days already. This time I aim to conquer my enemy for once and for all - together with everyone here! United we are strong.

@JamesRK Sorry, but it sounds like you are not viewed PMO as our worst enemy that we have. It is an addiction and even bad in the slightest usage. There are tons of other scientific studies about the side effects of porn usage and PMO. Do not forget that the porn industry is very strong - and that they have the monetary means to spread their propaganda that porn is good.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2014/04/pornography.aspx

Do you know Napoleon Hill? One of the greatest authors in the 20th Century. Even he knew how self-destructive PMO was, even in 1937. https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/49p64d/heres_what_the_devil_says_about_the_benefits_of/

 

I would urge you to post or cite the studies done in order to prove your point. Hopefully they are from reputable medical journals.

Your list in your original post was compiled by you, and your motivation was to prove masturbation is wrong, of course your evidence will support your claim. That is not science, nor is it a complete list, and the pros and cons will on someone else list be individual to the person, not your list. Their list may be very different then yours.

I have a large educational background in this and I completely disagree. I believe what you are posting is anecdotal evidence based on personal observation and backing it up through logical thought processes. I have found nothing that empirically supports not masturbating to be associated with an improved quality of life.

This is a personal decision and may work for some, but is a highly unrealistic option for many. And to impose your views as fact on others and to set the expectation like you are can be highly detrimental to many peoples recovery.

It is important to find recovery through healthy means, studies done by reputable scientists in this field show that Sexual Anorexia (avoiding any sexual encounter or action, even if it is specific, like avoiding only orgasm or masturbation) actually aggravates the addictive cycle and follows many of the same patterns, mainly preoccupation with the thoughts, shame, and relapse. To achieve true recovery, you need to retrain yourself to go back to your healthy and untainted sexuality. You need to find your balance and get back to a place where your sexuality feels pure and clean.

Avoid any sort of negative conditioning, it can do massive damage on your psyche. Do not fall into a cycle of shaming your natural functions. If we think about neuroplasticity and what not, if we associate a negative feeling with an action enough times, the negative feeling will become involuntary. It would delay true recovery by many years if you successfully conditioned yourself to associate orgasm or masturbation with negative feelings. Affecting your ability to carry on with healthy relationships with those you love intimately.

This of course depends on your religious background and beliefs, I am coming from a purely scientifically supported standpoint. Perhaps your journey is truly different and it is not my place to correct you. although there are quite a few sexual disorders that can come from sexual shaming, and religious persons (amongst others) can be effected by theses things immensely. Unable to carry on healthy sexual relationships with their husbands or wives due to the amount of shame they feel associated with sexual activity. that doesn't shut off instantly when you get married for most if they condition themselves into it.

For some though, abstinence is a healthy tool to utilize in order to "reset" there brain. although this is far more complex and personally ambiguous process (usually led by a professional) than many people here will lead it on to be. There is a reason why many people relapse on here. Hulk moments of defeating the evil do not work. Attempting another cycle of addiction (sexual abstinence) does not work for most.

Keep in mind we are not talking about drug or alcohol addiction. We are talking about something that would happen naturally regardless if you were introduced to it or not. From the scientifically supported standpoint, masturbation, orgasm, and sex is not the problem. Your attitude about masturbation, orgasm, sex is the problem.

Many people will not be able to separate their sexual response cycle into two distinct cycles, (one being masturbation, and the other being physical intimacy). This is precisely what you are describing.

Again, do not outwardly avoid and villainize a natural human function. This will play into addictive cycles.

If this works for you, then awesome. I am glad you have found your nitch to recover. However, again, to impose it as fact for other peoples personal journey will only do damage to those it does not work for.

I wish you the best, please try to not spread personal information as fact.

Plus, the video you posted is about porn, not masturbating, he makes that very clear, it is not applicable to your anti masturbation argument.

 

It is not an addiction,
It is a mental disorder, calling it an addiction is inaccurate and oversimplifies a complex and extremely abstract difficult problem for people to wrap their heads around.
I have yet to find any respectable journal call it such,
Medical professionals will use the term "Hypersexuality" or "sexually compulsive behavior" when referring to it in a empirical context. And for good reason! We call it an addiction in a personal context in order to simplify it and avoid the controversy about it.
If it truly was an addiction, it would not be so contested and would also be in the DSM5 (if you are not aware of what that is, you are not doing enough research to be speaking the way you are). It will also not be in the upcoming DSM6. The above terms will be used in place of it. this is for many reasons, but mainly, the motivations for it and that you can not treat it exactly like and addiction. If it is not used in the current international medical standard book that millions of scientists use and consistently discuss and update, then why would I support your theory over millions of scientist doing actual work to try and solve this issue?

They have millions of man hours studying it. Please pay respect to that
and this is not a conspiracy theory in regards to porn paying for mis-information,
We are talking about medical journals that have no association with porn and get there money from international government grants and donations. It is illegal and called fraud to falsify information in a journal, with consequences that would destroy the lives of anyone involved, up-to and including prison time depending on the effects.
donations and the study are heavily reviewed by whats called an IRB or " institutional review board" (another board of scientist making sure that misinformation does not happen, this board reports to another board and so on and so forth), and if it is felt that the donation is for the purpose of misinformation, the donation will be refused outright. It is governed by a massive and complex network of world wide doctors and scientists who regularly call others out of there issues and will not hesitate to ruin groups of scientists lives if fraud is involved.

Keep in mind we are not talking about drug or alcohol addiction. We are talking about something that would happen naturally regardless if you were introduced to it or not (majority of animals do it! and they are not "addicted" to this natural behavior).
From the scientifically supported standpoint, masturbation, orgasm, and sex is not the problem. Your attitude about masturbation, orgasm, sex is the problem.

Please avoid personal bias's when discussing science.

please read the above post in regards to your statement on "even the slightest usage",
you are referring to sexual abstinence, something that has been shown (repeatably and scientifically) to actually aggravate and be destructive towards most peoples recovery.

 

@Lheastwoo I am sorry but your long post won't help you either. Masturbation insanely destructive - and there is no way around it. If the scientific studies are not enough for your, if 100.000 Members here are not enough for you to prove that masturbating with your own hand is self-destructive, then you have to do some through research on the topic.

If you want to heal yourself, you have to throw the shackles off porn and masturbation - both. The only thing encouraged would be sex with someone you truly love - because love is the connection which matters here.

 

lol, you didn't even read it, I literally proved you wrong. and your response is "I'm going to ignore that and continue with my thoughts because I am far to feeble to challenge the way I think and grow"

You are not a reputable source,
You are a person trying to help, and inadvertently being destructive instead. Or maybe you just have a god complex and want to be right.
NoFap does not advocate no masturbation, they advocate recovery. Maybe you missed that?

 

What studies man? you are spouting BS, find some for me.
you have yet to show any reputable studies,
I doubt you have ever even read one. You are just spouting misinformation because you are stubborn and afraid to be wrong.

 

There is 0 science to support that to be true for all people.
Prove me wrong and I will apologize and retract all that I have said.

The problem here is you wont,
You are not in this to be accurate, or actually find the truth,

You are so bent on finding recovery, you will latch to one idea that makes sense to you and take it to hell and back because you are afraid of being wrong.

Because if you are, you wont succeed,
and that is scary. I relate to that. But it is a sign of an educated man to entertain a thought he does not agree with. So what are you? educated? or a sheep that wants the problem to fix itself?
Cause it wont,
and chances are you will fail because you are not thinking about this the right way.

You would much prefer to run with one thought and hope, pray, and bank on it being the correct one.