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Wishing a woman would tell me to stop masturbating

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by +TenPercent, Dec 17, 2020.

  1. Sometimes I get so mixed up wondering if its okay to masturbate or even better to do so, or if I should give up masturbation entirely.

    My longest streaks were when I had a female AP and/or female friends in my life encouraging me to not masturbate. Once, I confessed what I thought about while masturbating and a female friend told me I really need to stop . . . that led to a 4 month streak.

    This could just be a manifestation of some of my fetishes, but the option to masturbate is a real struggle for me and I wish a female would encourage me to stop.

    Hopefully that's not triggering. If anyone has questions, comments, encouragement or suggestions, please reply. Thanks!
     
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  2. Brave Wolf

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    You're just wrong. Why would you need someone to tell you what to do. I would argue that your mentality is the reason you fail. It's almost as if you want people (women for some reason) to feel bad about you, then you feel bad for making them feel bad and [then] you try to improve. Cut that BS, you know it's wrong, so be a man and fight the monster that keeps you enslaved, do not doubt it for a second.
     
  3. Thank you for that Coffee! It made me so happy to hear from you :)
    You are definitely someone who has helped me enormously over the last few years.
    And, your brief response helped me to get through another half a day. We count days here but at times even a few minutes seems unbearable.

    My girlfriend tells me that porn is unacceptable but that masturbation is totally okay. In some ways I'm grateful for her attitude on this. Yet my experience is this: after a month of COVID (in April), I decided masturbation would be a good way to relieve stress . . . once a fortnight turned into once a week turned into a regular habit, with porn.

    The last few months, I find myself lacking desire to have sex with my girlfriend and only being intimate once or twice a month (though I can still easily get excited for porn and fantasies). I have a twisted fetish which imagines that not having sex with my girlfriend will lead her to seek sexual pleasure elsewhere. I'm ashamed to admit such a selfish fantasy, but it just makes me more inclined to indulge those fantasies and let the problem persist.

    Deep down I know that it's unhealthy. I have an amazing relationship with my girlfriend on many levels, but it's important to have sexual intimacy as well. Repeatedly I have convinced myself to MO with the vain notion that the chaser effect will make more inclined to be sexual with my partner. Maybe that worked once. Then I fall back into a pattern of porn and masturbation (after going over a year without porn!!).

    (@Brave Wolf - thanks for encouraging me to man up and do it out of sheer willpower, but I have found that I can't do this alone) Yes, I need to quit masturbation for myself. But, the reality is that I am in a partnership and yet I am not if I'm in my head with fantasy and compelled towards porn and masturbation. I should feel bad about my masturbation. I do feel bad. I read what the SO's write on this forum and I think I should feel ashamed of my addiction. Maybe others can enjoy masturbation, but I need to stop and whether it's shame or encouragement, it helps me to be a better man and find healthier ways to cope with the challenges of life. I've had two streaks of roughly 3 months this year, but I have had equally long stretches of full blown relapse. I have 24 days of no MO today and am trying to hold onto that for all it's worth.
     
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  4. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    It might be problematic if you're feeling a need for any women to encourage you not to masturbate. However, having a SO, friend of any gender, or maybe even your mom tell encourage you to reach your goals is very normal if you're comfortable with it.

    Externalizing my issues really helped me get through my first reboot. I would always think things like "I'm doing this so I can have dope sex with my girlfriend, so don't screw it up" or "I'm doing this so I can focus on school and my career, so don't give up now". These are healthy things to think, and are what NoFap and YBOP encourage!

    However, getting some type of rush or high from the feeling of any woman in general encouraging you not to masturbate is definitely harming your reboot, and should not be pursued or fantasized.
     
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  5. Brave Wolf

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    What those streaks look like? I've never been that far, however I find it interesting that even though my streaks are short, I've found them to be high quality. The reason? I stopped caring. I stopped counting the days, and instead of focusing on trying so hard not-to-fap, I focus on doing other things. Does this mean I gave up? Absolutely not, I'm well aware of my addiction, a disgusting one, and I know I have to overcome this. But over time, I came to the conclusion that the more you care about something, the more powerless you are. People get upset when things don't go according to the plan, their expectations were not fulfilled. But when you stop caring so much, nothing can't let you down; not caring is power. Sure I feel like trash when I watch P, but what am I gonna do? Being upset all day? I used to, but it doesn't lead anywhere. The right thing to do is move on with your life, and try to learn from your mistakes. But if you make such a great promise to yourself, that you will never, ever again PMO, you're going nowhere. Who knows, maybe some people can do that, but I would not recommend making promises you can't keep, you're gonna get upset and it's going to kick you down the rabbit hole again.

    How you spend your time matters, choosing what is worth your time is important. Over the last months I've been deleting my accounts everywhere I can (JustDeleteMe if you're interested), and it has really helped me. You'll find that if you choose what your time is worth spending, you'll be less likely to find attractive the idea of PMO.

    Cheers man, I know you can do this. And remember, not caring is power. Care enough to put your effort into this, into becoming a better person, but not enough to be upset.
     
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  6. Lol. I like that.
     
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  7. Hercules9

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    I currently have a female accountability partner I use for non-sexual problems (diet and early rising), with a great deal of success. I feel, like you, that she would be able to help me more with the masturbatory side of things than a male, but it's so much harder to reach out. She knows that masturbation causes me anxiety, but I feel that if I asked for her help, it would poison the other arrangements we have, regardless of whether the answer was yes or no.

    Maybe it's a motherly thing, although she's no older than I am...
     
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  8. 32 days without porn or masturbation as of this writing, but I could always use more encouragement and accountability.

    All too often I get ideas in my head (rationalizations!) that I should masturbate for one reason or another. These ideas are usually rooted in the threadbare idea that it will help relieve stress or that by doing so will somehow make me feel more alive - by triggering the chaser effect! :eek:

    Several times I have convinced my self that a wank midweek would set me up for love making success with my girlfriend on the weekend. I imagine that the chasers would give me more desire and help me to perform. In practice, the opposite is more likely to ensue. Even worse if it actually does work one time, because then I'm more likely to try it again and again. :oops:

    Thank you all for your replies and thank you in advance for your encouragement.
     
  9. Freedom_from_PMO

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    Why do you need a woman to tell you that?

    Maybe tell your mother, she will probably tell you to stop.
     
  10. Why do you need to ask me that?

    I find your response to be chiding. Perhaps that's not how you meant it, but that's how I take it. And thus answers your first query. Men seem more likely to give me a hard time, implying that I should "be a man" and go it alone . . . or else run off to my mother.
    Thanks, "bro", but that's not the kind of encouragement that I am seeking. I think I would benefit more from even a chastising remark from a woman than a thinly veiled condescending remark from a man.
     
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  11. Freedom_from_PMO

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    What's wrong with telling your parents about your problems? The effectiveness of it depends on what kind of people they are (my mother for example isn't very good at understanding psychological problems, she just can't relate) but they are the closest male and female role models we have and they don't ghost us like randos on the internet.

    What you said about men telling to "be a man" is very common complain about women. You had different personal experience, but women can react like that and it might be a source of disappointment if you put too much trust in women (in general, not specific people that you know are trustworthy). And you seem to at least holding men more accountable for actions that you dislike, while giving a pass to women. This attitude may just bite you in the future. People might be trustworthy or not regardless of their gender and putting to much focus on it might create a false sense of safety or animosity.

    I asked because I found this peculiar and you yourself said it might have some connection to your fetishes. And reconnecting to your mother was already mentioned. If you are looking for a female role model it might be best place to start.
     
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  12. Anti-Hero

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    Stop putting women on a pedestal.
     
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  13. Mindfulness helps a lot. Another thing that will help is not to be isolated. Whenever the desire to masturbate comes, leave the room and try to participate in some conversation, interact with other people. If you live alone, when the urge arises, take a short walk outdoors. Always keep an outfit ready to go out, as this will prevent your brain from falling into the temptation to find an excuse not to go out because you don’t have an outfit ready for it.
    My English is not good, I apologize for the possible mistakes.
     
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  14. A few years ago I got to the point where I couldn't stop thinking about a certain actress. whenever I got home, I went to my room, I looked for videos of her and it drained my energy. I'm in the fight, just like everyone else here. When I feel like it, I open the Python compiler and try to program something, study something. When that doesn't work, I leave the room and interact with other members of my family. I always keep my bedroom door open!
     
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