Women tempting intentionally

Then I was making an argument based on a misunderstanding. This whole thread is about women wearing sexually provocative clothing that accentuate their sexual assets, regardless of already naturally having noticeable assets or not, and the fact that yoga pants/leggings happen to be sexually provocative and comfortable at the same time. So I assumed you were arguing in favor of clothing that are both sexually provocative and comfortable. If you were actually only talking about modest clothes (like jeans and T shirt) that are comfortable to wear but because of your own noticeable assets also provocative, then obviously I misunderstood and I sincerely apologize to you if I made any false claims. I didn't see any specification in your post about the kind of clothes you were talking about, so I assumed you were continuing the discussion. I didn't have any intentions of being distasteful to you, as I said, I don't know a thing about you that could make me want to do such claims.


This thread is becoming too confusing and unclear to overlook because of the lack of distinction between a woman being sexually provocative (not necessarily in her own control) and a woman dressing sexually provocative (in her own control and what this whole thread was about from the beginning.)

And I am baffled by the fact that there can be such a misunderstanding when using the term "sexually provocative" clothing. Low-cut shirts showing off cleavage, short skirts, short shorts, thin-fabric skin-tight clothing are all clothes that life experience, the media, fashion industry, pornography show to be sexually provocative, some more and some less than others. Obviously a jeans and a shirt are not sexually provocative clothing on their own.(not the same as still being sexually provocative despite wearing them, but this seems to have become the biggest confusion in this whole discussion)

I still stand by my point that if a woman is choosing to wear sexually provocative clothing -"with few exceptions"- despite of feeling comfortable in them, she is also making a choice on asking for attention from the opposite gender. The only way to disprove my point is to ask every single female about her awareness of the "sexual-provocativeness-level" of the clothes she is wearing.

I think at this point anyone following the thread can make up their own mind based on every individual post that was/is made. This is becoming too time consuming to continue.

Also this subtle attention-grabbing is quite laughable, especially in a place like this, but if that's what makes people feel better about themsevles, more power to them.

 

Raise of hands anyone, who thinks the woman in question wearing 'said' clothing garment determines how sexually enticing it is?

C'mon now don't be shy?

 

Why? I don't think so. Like I said, just because a woman chooses to wear something comfortable, it doesn't mean that they choose the unwanted attention from the opposite gender; that comes of its own accord.

Anyways, you've made up your mind, and you're right, anyone reading can use their own wits to come to an educated opinion.

Good day.

 

They can be. Just as low cut shirts, short skirts and tight clothing can be in my opinion but as I said it's down to man to figure out a way to cope with it.

 

Definitely relatable. Lol although my sister was way worse than me. In high school she was super thin and probably had like DDD boobs. People would constantly get on her case for being immodest or whatever, and she would literally end up crying almost almost every time we had to go clothes shopping because she could never wear anything cute without it being really immodest. So she pretty much wore baggy tshirts all the time, and it didn't really even matter much, because obviously you can still tell she has an amazing body. And she shouldnt need to feel ashamed of it or anything. I developed later, so it was easier for me. My "problems" didn't "arise" until college.

What about skinny jeans? Lots of people think those are provocative. As well as low rise jeans, tshirts that are too tight, etc. What about wearing a bra or not wearing a bra? What if your bra strap shows? Some people think that's slutty, some dont think anything of it at all.

I'm not actually asking for answers, I'm just saying, the point is, a lot of things that are considered provocative by one person are not by another. It's not a black and white issue by any means. As is evidenced by the yoga pants example. Some people, like you, seem to think it's a no-brainer that yoga pants are provocative, and others, like me, dont see it that way at all. It's entirely subjective, which is why you shouldnt make assumptions and should just err on the side of not assuming that people are intentionally trying to be inappropriate.

I agree with that... IF the woman is aware that her outfit is provocative. That's where the problem lies. Because that's getting into the territory of assuming someone's thoughts and intent, which we cannot do.

You're right... the only way to know a womans intent regarding her choice of clothing is to ask her. So maybe dont assume someone has an inappropriate intent until you've asked them. Or until they've shown you in some way other than simply the way they are clothed, because that's subjective.

Not sure what you're getting at there. I'm just having a conversation with you. Im not looking for any kind of attention. Again, you're falsely assuming people's intent is nefarious somehow. I would just recommend you stop judging people without knowing them and assuming negative things about people all the time with next to no proof.

 

Are you referring to Sarah and I discussing what it's like to be well-endowed? Because give me a break. I'm not looking for attention, thanks. I dont need a bunch of horny men drooling over my boobs to feel good about myself. Im just having a damn conversation, and s relevant one, as it relates to this conversation and might give men more of an insight and more compassion toward women who are trying to be modest and find it difficult. Because again, I've seen far too many men acting like any woman who has big boobs is some kind of whore who wants to be objectified. And that's disgusting behavior that justifies their own actions and dismissing all of their personal responsibility to not be pigs. They should be better than that. I see nothing wrong with being grown ups and discussing the difficulties both genders face in issues like this.

But again... if you want to assume we are just "subtly seeking attention," go right ahead. You'll be wrong, but go right ahead.

 

Except that's just it, as @Castielle said "provocative" is highly subjective. What you wear might look okay on you as opposed to someone like me were those same clothes end up revealing or make me look trashy, that's literally the point I'm trying to make...

There's already enough shit in this world, if you're not going out of your way to dress/look like a slag who gives a damn what you wear honestly?

No idea where that's coming from or what that has to do with anything, if it's to do with what me or Castielle said to each other that would be a pathetic jab attempt on your part.

 

An older looking man is with a young looking woman enjoying themselves in a Ferrari. Is he a perverted old man and the woman a gold digger? Is that his daughter? Is he a successful entrepreneur that changes the lives of others positively and they met by having the same passion?

We don't know. It's none of our business.

Why be the judge and jury of people that you have no clue about?

It's how people react that's the problem.

Just because a young and attractive woman is at a bar, drunk and having fun, doesn't mean she deserves to be taken advantage of or seen in a negative way.

Just because there's a homeless person on the street begging for change doesn't mean that person is lazy or a failure. We don't know their circumstances or life story.

Everyone has the freedom to do what they want if you're lucky enough to have such freedom. So unless you want to take action with the government to ban such freedom then just leave it alone.

Some people like to look sexy or seek attention. So what? That's entirely their business.

 

While I agree a person's trigger isn't my fault or really my problem I think there's a fine line when you dress overly sexy though.

Good? I'm sorry but I don't see that at all, acceptance of sorts made sense back then but don't in today's times. All women seem to be pushing for today is being able to be completely topless. They can do what they want but honestly I don't want to see their private parts, to me I honestly think it's trashy girls want to purposely do stuff like that.

All porn did was create a worse off hypersexualised society than in the olden days, especially for how easily available it is on the Web today. These boundary pushes are completely unnecessary because all folks seem to want to do is wear less and less clothes, I mean really where does being so overly sexual get anybody in life?

 

Here's another thing to consider.

Some girls choose the choice of clothing to make 'themselves' feel better, not to explicitly garner attention for someone else. Why on earth should we sit here and be judgemental assuming they are going out to ENTICE others, that's just foolish.

 

Can you repeat that back to me, please? I want to hear you say that again. In what way did pornography help people? I am really interested to know. Go on. Do tell.

 

To the person who posted it...

You can only mind your own business... Even if a women is naked, the male watching her is still responsible for his actions! He can't escape his own perverted nature by blaming it on the women... What business is it ours to point the world to do this or that!
Control yourself and everything will appear to be controlled as well.. And let your inner wolves loose, and you'll see bad in everything as a consequence!

There's a fine line between natural sexual attraction and artificially introduced thoughts.. If your attitude to sex is natural , you are not gonna face many problems.. On the other hand if you let artificiality creep into your persona.. You'll end up finding fault with every women.. Dressed up or dressed down!!

Same applies to women as well.. You dress a special way to attract attention and that's a artificial way and therefore you wouldn't gain long term happiness from it.

 

Then we have to agree to disagree, because to me sex isn't as important as society makes it out to be.

Porn has done literally nothing good at all, you know what people did back then when they were horny? They had sex... most people today aren't even interested in sex and rather just staring at a screen jerking off to pixels, and for the ones that are they're so messed up from porn and it's warped portrayal of women and love they either have sexual problems or some become abusive.

There is nothing natural about what society has turned into period, are you saying that it would be acceptable for women to just be completely naked as long as they were "comfortable"?

 

I don't agree with that, and it doesnt matter which gender does that it crosses the line. There's a difference between being sexy, skimpy, and just downright trashy.

Whoever is wiling to go that low is responsible to a point for their lack of clothes regardless of the person "watching".