Masterbation okay ?

They are both problematic. Most of all masturbation is a waste of time. It's a waste of time and energy that could be spent on more productive or enjoyable activities. It also reinforces the concept of loneliness. Say you masturbate because you feel lonely, there's no-one special in your life to spend time with/ have sex with, so you masturbate instead. Then you wonder why people don't seem as naturally attractive, or you can't hold a conversation with someone, or you can't hold eye contact with someone.

I think if you're willing to masturbate, you're willing to be selfish with your sexual energy. You'd rather be lazy and jerk off to the beat of your own drum, than share yourself with other people. And if you are in a relationship already, you're depriving your partner of their right to behold your sexual energy.

I think all this stuff about masturbating because it's healthy is a load of shit. Some group of scientists did a study into the relationship between masturbation and prostate cancer, and now it's become "healthy" to masturbate. I think the way health issues are portrayed by media is reinforcing the pressure on people to conform to the consumerist lifestyle (but I won't rant on about that).

Either way, I'd say porn is your main enemy, but masturbation does NOT help your reboot, and it could lead you to relapse to porn. Best to stay away from it bro.

Cheers
NoBrainer

 

Masturbation is a solo operation, whereas sex is supposed to be between two intimate, close adults. It's a bonding experience that deepens relationship and intimacy. Masturbation is just a weak facsimile that operates purely off of carnal sexual urges and lusts. There are a lot of excuses out there for it, but in the end, you're alone and empty.

Is it okay? Well, that's relative. Is that description okay with you? Because you're the only person that matters right now. Unless you're also putting your girlfriend, future girlfriend, wife, or future wife into consideration, in which I would most emphatically encourage you to pursue purity for her sake. It all depends on what you want to accomplish.

You're not punching a scorecard - you're attempting to make your life better, for you and the ones you love. Right?

 

I try not to masturbate. Why? Because it only makes me feel good for a few seconds. And after that I just feel tired, unfocused and passive. It's just like alcohol; it gives you hangover. I don't really believe that there is a person who feels good about masturbating often.

And M is just a replacement for real sex. But it isn't even a good one because you can't have sex with yourself! Sex is something that happens between two individuals and gives both sexual pleasure. So M is like having sex without sex, if you get my point. It's just complete waste of your energy.

And excessive masturbation is visible. People who mastubate a lot aren't that attractive. They usually are socially awkward and passive. Someone who masturbates a lot is usually the one with most problems when it comes to sex. I could say that M causes loneliness and problems with sexuality.

It's strange how there are so much advocating of M in today's world. How can it be so? Well, I guess that the same persons who defend porn, also defend masturbation. It's sad how so many young people take those advices seriously and ruin their sex lives because of it. People are not meant to M, they are meant to seek partners for sex. That's just clear and simple biology.

 

Is masturbation okay?

No. The same reason why injecting heroin is not ok. Masturbation weakens you, drains your mental stamina and in excesses, unfits you for work. It's your responsibility to not masturbate, so that you can be productive to society, love the people around you and contribute to this world.

It's also a violation of physical laws. Nature didn't prepare you for masturbation, it's harmful, especially in excesses during developmental years.

So my answer is no, masturbation is not ok. It's a violation of moral and physical laws.

And it's not just about you. You're part of a group, a society, a community. Don't ever listen to liberals, they think we're all separated when we are not. We have a responsibility to contribute to our group, we shall not be parasites.

 

I want to repeat what Abel said. As with most addictions and habits, it's entirely dependent on the person involved. I can have a beer and not go insane, I can get drunk at a friend's wedding and go about my life afterwords with no problem. I know people who can't. I know people who are so sensitive to drinking that they don't even want to eat a sauce with wine, even if all the alcohol has cooked off. It will throw them into a destructive cycle.

I can't masturbate, because it sets me on a self-destructive cycle. I do it once, and then I have to do it again the next day (or even later that day) and the next, and the next. I reach a point where I'm making excuses to not do things so I can stay home and j.o., and my ability to function goes straight out the window. I can't control it, I can't do it in moderation. I think it's entirely possible that some people can.

My advice to you is to avoid it. I assume that you're in here because there's something going on in your life that you want to change. I think for most of us, porn and masturbation are two parts of the same problem. It's an addiction or a compulsion, and one of the great things about compulsive behavior is the lengths you go to to justify it. I would also say there's nothing to lose by not masturbating. You might feel frantic and stressed and completely mental. Think of that as detoxing. Your brain has to learn how to cope without masturbating, so as wretched as it may feel, it's just an early symptom of getting better.

But only you know your situation, so only you can make the call.

-wrong

 

Should you masturbate or not? thats up to you.

Like the earlier replies that masturbation is healthy. According to private people yes. According to urologists no. There are NO scientific evidence that masturbation is healthy for you in any way.

For me personally I get a hangover from fapping one day.

Masturbation prevents prostate cancer? yea it does, when someone else is jerking you off. You won't do anything to avoid it by masturbating alone.
You need someone to do it for you, that way it works!

And masturbate by yourself teaches you brain and body to only release sexual energy to nothing. It doesn't teaches you how to give it to someone else and how to receive it from someone else.

You wanna get rid of porn? cut porn. You wanna make it a whole lot easier and make yourself feel better at the same time. Cut out masturbation aswell.

I stopped care about the whole thing and my mind just tells me that I don't have to time to watch porn or masturbate. Will I do it forever? I don't know, I dont even care. All I know is that I dont have time for that bullshit. Porn is gone forever thats for damn sure!

Why did I stop care? and is slightly frustrated about it?
Because the women that I like and is sexually attracted 9/10 of them got a bad attitude which pretty much broke my heart. So now I dont really care anymore.

 

Masturbation is immoral, you cannot just do whatever you want to do, we're not individuals separated from the group. You've a responsibility to contribute to yourself, your family and friends but also to the society and in the long run, the entire world.

Masturbation makes you unfit for study, work and duties. It's a sin to physical and moral laws.

And everybody knows this instinctively, hence masturbators guilt like behavior and inability to look others in the eye - they are ashamed. Because deep down they know that they are doing something wrong.

 

Nope, I got ashamed and I was not raised in a religious family.

Just imagine your own mother masturbating, isn't the idea appalling?

You're so brainwashed, it's remarkable. They succeeded with you, unfortunately. I hope that you some day wake up.

The act of masturbation, really, there's no beauty in it. There's just shame, it's an awfully disgusting act.

And how do you explain masturbators incapability to look others in the eye? Is this shame caused by a stupid society "that casts guilt on masturbators"?

Don't even try to blame that on dopamine deficiency, because people coming off hard drugs, who are depressed and suffering from fatigue does not show those symptoms.

And we live in a highly sexualized society, who encourages us to masturbate, lol. They fool us, they trick us to not be ashamed for evil habits. WHEN WILL YOU GUYS WAKE UP?

 

"Leave my mother out of this" Lol, nothing personal. Just an anecdote, think about it.

And no, you're wrong. We don't need a society that teaches us that stealing wrong, we're programmed since birth to understand this, instinctively, otherwise we wouldn't come too far.

Your brain is programmed in such a manner that you feel shame when you do something bad, like stealing, lying. If you lie much, this sense of shame disappears gradually. And some individuals, psychopaths for example lacks sense of shame and guilt. But normal, healthy individuals feels shame and guilt when they do something bad.

masturbation is something bad, that's why you feel shame.

And perhaps you don't feel social anxiety, but most of guys on forums like this can agree that social anxiety is a common result by excessive masturbation. Social anxiety is not natural, it does not have any other causes, very few exceptions.

Do you really believe that if we don't teach newborn babies that killing is wrong they will be able to kill without any remorse or guilt? You deny that we have any in-built mechanisms of shame and guilt since birth? I can tell you that it's actually proven that even new born babies have morals, they a have a natural tendency to vote for the hero, not for the villain.

You don't know much, really. And ask yourself; what act would you rather be busted with? To your mother?

Stealing, lying or masturbating to porn?

I think both you and me know the answer.

Life is hard.

 

http://www.childhoodstoday.org/download.php?id=26

There was also some researchers that showed children in very early childhood different figures, and children had a predispostion towards the "good" figure. We have a thing for good and evil since birth.

And since masturbation is harmful, both to yourself but then again, it affects the people around you, the people around you will be the victims of your irritability and other undesirable traits. Therefor masturbation is immoral, it's a filthy act. It serves no purpose whatsoever, not you, not to your family or the society.

 

Hey man! I know everyone gave you great advice already so I'll just leave you with some short inspiration.

Me with MO = flabby stomach

Me with no MO = six pack abs

 

I really can't see how M is intrinsically evil, shameful or disgusting.
To me the only problem with M is that it can be used by an individual to avoid what needs to be done through the act of self- soothing. Then the person can feel as if they have accomplished something. When all that they have really done is avoid and/or replaced being productive.
Now P is another story. I think that there is a lot of ethical problems around creating and consuming P. I blame the marketplace for causing the P situation to have gotten so out of hand. I take full responsibility for my part in it, but it has become a major problem for a lot of people.
I would appreciate it if some of you guys would tone down the hyperboley and personal attacks. I'm trying to be real and sincere here. Not cast aspersions for the sake of trying to influence others. We all need to make our own decisions about this stuff in the end. I would prefer to have a discussion with respect, offering insight and support instead of fire, brimstone and persuasion.

 

No, I said that children are born with the "beginning" of moral. And no, not all kids can kill.

But that is the case? In every culture murder, stealing and lying has been seen as immoral. We've differences, but minor. Most law systems are very much a like.

 

You believe that it just a coincidence that mankind rised so high? We're the smartest living form on the planet earth. And you believe that when we're born we're absolutely zero?

Masturbation is the same as injecting heroin. I see no difference. I really do not.

 

I think that without masturbation AT ALL many men will resort to casual sex when they don't have partners. Or, when they finally get a girlfriend, they are too eager to have sex with her especially for young men with raging hormones. That in my opinion is unhealthy as it encourages the spread of STIs. And, many of times, due to the intense accumulated lust, they start having sex before they even really get to know each other and see if they truly do love each other. That is unhealthy for relationships as well. I think one may strike a BALANCE between masturbation and other life habits. My Two cents.

 

Every culture yes, but take an innocent child, tell him or her that killing brings honour, and you will be surprised how far brainwashing can go. Take child soldiers in Africa for example. Children, turned ruthless killers. I don't see any morals there, granted there are no laws though.

 

You said yourself, they are brainwashed. I agree. But you cannot say that killing is natural behavior for a child, lol.

 

Because it's harmful, and in excesses SO destructive, both to himself and his surroundings. It's also against the nature, that's why nature protest against it. Our bodies are not made to ejaculate in that manner. It's destructive. So destructive. I've talked about this in another thread also, I blame porn but also masturbation for a lot of the evil in our world. Such as rapes, murders, people being home from work etc.

That's why I think it's an immoral act and a violation of physical laws.

That's why we are programmed to think that masturbation is something shameful. I'm not saying that masturbators should be executed, but it's really a shameful act.