Yeah, nofap really helps with the ogling problem. To me the MGTOW philosofy is also helpful, as it shows you how thirsty we men are, so you start being more rational and aiming to behave yourself in the right manner, which is what a man has to be, and not sensual and feminine which lead to onanism and porn, etc. I hope that makes sense.
oh my this is just like the final boss, the final phase to became a gentleman, a free man of this world of porn shame on me, even tho my religion say that this kinda of thing is a sin but i kept doin that i will definitely come again an re read this but first i wana beat my social media addiction first thank you
Hey @muhagg that is an excellent question. First, I would say that it is disrespectful to the women whom I am ogling. They didn't ask to be sexualized, and inevitably I treat them differently and unfairly because of it. If it is just a stranger walking down the street perhaps that isn't so bad (as long as it doesn't involve catcalling or aggressive behavior - just discreet looking), but if it is coworkers, classmates, etc. then it puts them in an unfair position of being seen as an object rather than a person. Second, it is disrespectful to my wife. As a Christian, Matthew 5:27–28 clearly teaches that looking at other women with lust is committing adultery, and so is cheating on my wife. More than that, though, it is directing sexual energy outside of the marriage, which is a recipe for disaster - even if it's just checking women out. Third, it is disrespectful to myself. This is the part that took me a long time to learn. But it disrupts my recovery, for which I have worked so hard. Checking out an attractive woman walking down the street leads to looking at bikini pictures in a magazine, which leads to full on PMO, and then on to worse behavior. So, I choose to fight my battles at the beginning of that process. Anyway, those are my thoughts. I'm going to ask @Tired Of Being Lied To , @Susannah , @Kenzi if they have anything to add (hope that's okay) since I know they have addressed this issue from the other side.
Well I don't think it is disrespectful.Women themselves make them selves look really attractive because they like the attention by men.Although if it is for religious reasons it makes sense.But still ogling itself is not in itself bad it is how we decide to think of it that makes it good or bad. As for the statement that ogling will eventually lead to PMO it is false.Most people on this forum are looking for excuses to PMO.
I found that I had to cut out ogling and engaging in lustful thoughts in order to give up porn. Others experiences may be different but for me the two went hand in hand.
I agree. I should clarify what I said before, that it is in my experience as well. It is the start of a slippery slope. Some do indeed want the attention. Others, however, do not and are not looking for it. Moreover, I do think there is a big difference in what is acceptable for a single man to do vs. a man in a relationship or a married man.
New member here. This is a great thread. I really have to watch myself on this as I work in an office with quite a few good looking, well dressed ladies in the 25-40 yr old range. And it is a definite #metoo environment where you will get in a lot of trouble real fast if your eyes go below a woman's face or you watch her from behind for any length of time at all.
20 jan when i first saaw this thread i thought to myself that this is so positive will try then maybe latter but i found that this ogling is so dangerous, and i experienced it know . i always thought that ogling is normal for man even tho my religion is clearly againts it when i reach this nofap streak ,porn isnt the case anymore.... now the challenge are outside of porn some day's ago, i was always ogling at my coworker she's hot 35 i guess and have a husband im ogling at her private parts whenever i can.... from ogling it developed to fantasy or edging until i almost relapse the next few day after i tried not to ogling her but i realize its not only her.... every woman that i met, i will ogling em,,, first their face and later their private part's my friend(woman) told me that if man do something like that (especially when they talked) they can sense it, and it disgust her.... its like a perfect storm for me especially for single me then i decided to fight this ogling, after i read ur tips @Tannhauser i will try it hope it works for me
Ogling can lead you to worst behavior than porn in my opinion. Porn you do It in the privacy of your home, and ogling can get you into big trouble if you stare at the wrong person, many bad things can happen.
That is superhelpful tips and tricks, this is the first time i heard the term of ogling, and now i understand the term. i've been struggling about this too, the dirty mind when you see attractive girl with kinda hot looking put my mind to fantasize it. Thank you for sharing this, cheers on you mate!
Sir I have a ogling problem.My nofap period is 44 days.When i talk with woman my eyes going to woman neck,their boobs and nacked body parts.Recently I saw that my eyes are going to man boobs and that is a serious problem for me.When i talk my eyes are always staring to nacked parts. Sir this tips are available for me?? And give an extra suggestion for me to recover my problem
I'm on day 24, and I ogling is still tough. I do my best to not look, but if the woman is right in front of me, I kinda loose all my self will.
It is difficult. After 600+ days I'm still struggling with bad ogling. So guys, don't expect miracles soon! Be kind to yourself, try but don't punish yourself. This is maybe the last and the toughest p related habit to go.