What Defines Something to be True?

SolitaryScribe · Nov 24, 2017

RainbowShell said: ↑

So the answer to the question is, the way things are defines what is true.
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Very well said! I think many people confuse the difference between how we perceive truth verse what truth actually is. The perception of truth CAN be relative. Truth in itself however must be objective.

usef Abs · Nov 24, 2017

CassTeaElle said: ↑

We have approached this question completely differently. I approached it by answering what I believe "defines something to be true." You approached it by answering how you think the majority of the world "defines something to be true." That seems pointless to me if the majority of the world is wrong. And you don't even seem to agree with that yourself, so I'm confused as to why you answered this question in that way. But whatever, you do whatever you want. You don't need to talk to me like I'm dumb, though.

I'm just really confused by the way you talk... many times you have said things that make it sound like you agree with me and that the people who believe that truth is determined on an individual level are ignorant and wrong. But then you do a 180 and say that my definition of truth isn't right and I have no knowledge of what I'm talking about. I'm having trouble determining what YOU actually believe, which is what I want to know. I don't need you to tell me what most of the world believes, I can see that for myself.
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I did not mean to speak to you that way or confuse you.

truthseeker17 · Nov 24, 2017

Let me give you my opinion too

I will give you some quality's of truth
- Truth is not subjected to time or place
- Truth molds everything while truth itself can't be molded
- Truth is most dominant
- Truth is the undisputed fact
- Truth sets free
- Truth is simple and often also very logical
- There was truth when there was nothing. There will be truth when there will be nothing.

Hope you have a idea of how I perceive truth

SolitaryScribe · Nov 24, 2017

truthseeker17 said: ↑

Truth sets free
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This reminds me of Jorden Peterson when he said that once you find something that you hold true, you hold on to it with all of your life and put anything on the line for it. For anything outside of truth is chaos.

usef Abs · Nov 24, 2017

SolitaryScribe said: ↑

If you really hold the view that truth is relative, it's nonsensical to call someone or a group of people ignorant. Simply ignorance cannot exist in a world where truth is relative.
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I m totally lost here. I m not an expert on this subject i m just saying things that are there in the real world.

SolitaryScribe · Nov 24, 2017

usef Abs said: ↑

I m totally lost here. I m not an expert on this subject i m just saying things that are there in the real world.
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And you aren't wrong in your perception. Ignorance does exist, but only because their knowledge or lack there of goes against what is true.

Deleted Account · Nov 25, 2017

Depends what you are talking about

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