The REAL REAL Superpowers...

Just as you have said, dedicating your recovery to someone and having them in your mind does the trick!!! To me, that's the most effective method of getting rid of PMO.

Worked for me after I got a Gf and dedicated my recovery to her, I'm sure it's gonna work for someone else too. Why not give it a try?

 

@Greggory , I've seen more than one of your posts and I think you're spreading misinformation about ejaculating on this forum. I'm calling you out. I have researched the topic to the best of my ability, and I cannot find any scientific research that suggests that semen retention has any significant consequences for your health. As far as I can tell, it's a myth. If you can show me a peer reviewed research article demonstrating the health benefits of semen retention, then I may be convinced. In fact, a peer reviewed article from The Journal of the American Medical Association from April of last year suggests that ejaculating might actually reduce the risk of prostate cancer, along with other health benefits. I don't think it's a good idea to tell people coping with an addiction that they will have super powers if they quit, because it's just not true.

 

Just want confirm here to all the skeptics ... Yes no PMO really does draw women to you like moths to a flame... Even after 30 days (note: in my experience).

 

Ridley, firstly just because something is peer reviewed dosnt make it true. There are a lot of examples of this. Secondly, a lot of science is based (initially at least) on empirical observations...so if people want to truthfully relate what they personally have experienced, we cannot call it false just because we haven't experienced it. Alot of people claim real improvements in things like confidence, communication skills and so on from NoFap. These are 'superpowers' to some, maybe not others. They are not wrong, they are just relating their experiences. I have had similar experiences. But this dosnt make this 'scientific truth' either. A lot of published science might take such empirical observation, use it to build an hypothesis that is testable, then test it. Just because no one has done this yet with NoFap superpowers dosnt mean that such superpowers are not real (whatever real really means, I would say there is actually no truth strictly speaking in science, just evidence).

Hope you understand. There is no right or wrong here.

 

I understand that, but I'm claiming that there isn't a peer-reviewed article on the matter for us to even criticize in the first place. If there was a peer-reviewed article suggesting that semen retention is beneficial, then I would be able to look over the evidence and decide for myself whether or not it's true, but there isn't one.

I am not claiming that OP's experiences are false, or that he did not experience health benefits from semen retention. I am claiming that there is no evidence suggesting that other people will have results similar to his if they try semen retention.

I agree with you. I'm not claiming that people couldn't experience health benefits from semen retention. I'm claiming that we have no reason to believe that such benefits are guaranteed, or that the benefits aren't a consequence of some other event, and that we ought to be skeptical of whether or not semen retention will bring us health benefits.

 

Inspiring.....

 

Dear friend, i appreciate your love of the truth, and i want to say that i share it as much as you. Nothing annoys me more than people telling lies, misleading false informations, hiding the truth, especially when it comes to health matter.
This is why i trully admire science. Science brought a lot of progress to mankind.
But the very sad truth, is that science is totally wrong and biased when it comes to certain topics. Why? I don't know why, but my guess is : conformism, dogma, dictatorship of thought in the scientific community and so on. Most geniuses have been outsider and suffered deeply for their discoveries. I remember the story of a particular man in the history of Europe, centuries ago, who discovered that cleaned women were much less prone to develop infection and disease when giving birth. Everyone thought he was crazy, and laughed at him because he would wash his hands. I think he ended up comiting suicide.
So westerners have decided that sex is innocuous and that you can have as much of it as you want, without any consequences, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a weirdo in the scientific community. Well, too bad, they are all wrong, and it probably easily could be proved, but no one will do it.
So to get back to our sheeps, what the nofap community witness as superpowers is definitively real, and it is very much known by orientals medicinal and spiritual science that conserving one vital energy through chastity builds strong inner strenght.

 

I think whether there are benefits from no O or not is open for debate.

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Thanks for the comments Ridley. Much appreciated.

I have now had a quick look at the Rider et al study, and I must admit I am skeptical of the claims:

1. Much of the data supporting the hypothesis that "ejaculation prevents prostate cancer" certainly isn't statistically valid. They even say this, and the valid data largely applies to just the highest frequency group.

2. There is no 0 elaculation group, despite claims by the Press here in the UK, for example. I find this very surprising. It is the obvious comparison group. Maybe celibate medics are too rare?

3. There clearly isn't a clear overall relationship between frequency of ejaculation and prostate cancer for the whole study. So saying, as the tabloid press did here in the UK, that fapping prevents cancer is erroneous.

4. Indeed in some cases the lowest frequency ejaculation (0 to 4 times a month) group actually appear to have a lower occurance compared to higher frequency groups.

5. The authors also point out that for the deadliest cases I.e. Most likely to be fatal cases of cancer, there may be a correlation with, rather than against, ejaculation frequency. I should point out statistical significance here is poor again.

So I can see why such a supposedly important study didn't get into a better journal.

The European Journal of Urology has an Impact Factor of 5.6, which isn't great for a medical journal TBH, and is very mediocre for a cancer journal. Says it all about this paper really.

Anyone might be justified to say this work was inconclusive I feel.

One thing that really annoys me is that as a result of this preliminary (at best) study, the U.K. Press (and supposedly the NHS) are encouraging men to ejaculate 20+ times a month. Crazy. Shows how dangerous poor medical research can be...the authors helped the press by over-inflating their claims. Science is a ruthless career sometimes, and pressure to publish high impact studies is immense. But this study goes too far with its claims for me.

 

I think it is, too. That's why I'm challenging OP's post. I'm not claiming there are no benefits from no O, I'm pretty much just claiming that it's up for debate.

Yeah, I agree with you here. I wasn't trying to suggest that the results were conclusive, just saying that this is really the only sort of research I could find on health issues related to ejaculation. I think, if anything, this demonstrates that the effects of ejaculation on your health are generally not well understood. I'm not claiming that ejaculating is good for you, and I'm not claiming that it's bad for you. I'm really exercising the same amount of skepticism that you are. If OP had positive results from semen retention, then I'm not doubting him. I just think that we should be skeptical that such results will apply generally, and that some of the positive benefits he's been experiencing may be a consequence of factors other than semen retention.

 

Thanks Ridley. These discussions are important I think.

Nofappers are in a powerful minority, but we still need to debate and question ourselves.

 

This is a great post and wonderful!