Worth A Watch

Yes, a very good read!

 

Cool stuff indeed but you should warn people about that link containing triggers! I'd advise against clicking it if you are easily triggered. You are greeted by two scantily clad beautiful women when you go to that page.

 

Yeah, please warn at start about triggers when you set link like this one. I wouldn't like to risk watching the sites even if they have useful advices.

 

Oh dear. The content of this video is misplaced at best. Men aren't turning to porn, video games and drugs because of radical feminism. They're turning to them because they are naturally stimulating (when I say 'naturally stimulating' I mean it is natural to be turned on to them- which doesn't make it right),

What is a major contributing factor to the phenomenon known as the Sexodus? PORN. IT's PORN! I fail to see how this man can ignore the downright obvious- that porn is causing men (predominantly) to lose their attraction to women (or men), and go straight to the 'blame radical feminism' argument.

Other than that, this man advertises his outcry against "social engineering" by putting two pictures of scantily clad women on his page. What?
I advise you warn fellow fapstronauts of triggers by modifying your opening thread beauty.

 

Clearly not. Generally, you speak of such issues as though men are being subjected to PMO and video games by what you call "radical feminism"- such that men would appear to be the victims. I disagree. Certainly within the last decade with porn being so readily accessible- boys have exposed themselves to porn from a young age. Gary Wilson sums it up nicely- quoting Simon Lajeunesse's research that "Most boys seek pornography by age 10, driven by a brain that is suddenly fascinated by sex".

Leave those boys to their own devices for a decade or so, and what do you end up with? Porn addiction? OCD? Social anxiety? Depression? The inability to concentrate?

So "women are being bombarded with feminist ideas and movements"? I would hardly say anyone is being "bombarded". Could you give an example of a widespread feminist movement in the last 10 years? And please don't say on Tumblr...

It is not just men that are living in a virtual reality. I agree, the rapid development of personal technology (such as smartphones or video games) is impacting our lives in many ways, some of which may be detrimental to human development. But generally I don't believe that development of technology is to blame for our problems.

Who is to blame for porn then? The people making and distributing it. Forever harnessing the unfortunate fact that sex sells, and making huge amounts of money off it, while ignoring the social consequences it may have on it's viewers.

But to blame feminism? Hmm. Personally I find that approach unjustified. I know that (simply put) I am both the perpetrator and the victim of my own addiction. While I can blame whoever I want, at the end of the day, it's still me who is affected by my issue. I know that it is I who can solve my problem, and I won't achieve my goal of overcoming my addiction by blaming anyone else.

I don't know. I agree that this "sexodus" is a problem, but I don't agree with you or the source of the video that "social engineering" or feminism are to blame.

I urge you to at least warn people in the opening post that the video you have referenced contains triggers. People may not have relapsed yet- but some poor soul may get triggered by such imagery.

 

He watched the video on social media so he wasn't aware that the actual page had those triggers on it. And not to beat a dead horse haha, but even if someone did relapse he shouldn't feel guilty about it. People need to learn self-control. There are triggers everywhere. But let me just say that my problem was mainly erotica, women in lingerie like in that video still and photo on that page. So when I clicked it, it may as well have been me viewing my erotic material of choice. Did I feel tempted by it? No, but it did plant a seed in my mind that could blossom into an urge in the coming days. At least I meditate daily and am aware of this and capable of derailing its growth.

 

Powerful words. And actually I only brought up triggers because there is so much talk of them on this forum. Also I suppose I was worried myself about seeing those images so I just said you should warn people.

But in my experience, what I've learned about addictions in the past is in line with what you are saying in your post right above this. External triggers can never be fully avoided, and eventually you need to fix what is wrong or causing you to relapse inside your mind/brain. Fix it at the source.

That being said even someone with discipline who has alot of progress shouldn't put themselves in high risk situations like watching steamy romantic movies with lots of sex scenes lol (I use to do this after I'd get a few months of progress lol, the lies we tell ourselves.) Mindful consumption is the key.

 

For consistency on nofap, there should be zero tolerance towards posting triggering links. To do so is
counterproductive and unfair to fellow fapstronauts- especially newbies. Nofap should encourage self control, however it is silly to posting the very material that the site encourages people to avoid.

Yes, life is full of triggers, but in order to create a productive place where people can learn of the harms of pornography and/ or masturbation, a safe haven must be ensured- that is- that nofap should be trigger free.

Temptation would be different for hundreds of others on this site, than it would be for you. I think we need to be nurturing of people's varying experience of nofap and their level of self control.

 

You seem to be making a point of this based on my post. I was not the one who posted triggering material. I was defending beauty is all. Personally I have always been very careful to warn of even subtle triggers, and would refrain from posting anything that was an obvious trigger. I feel your criticism towards me is a little uncalled for to be honest but now I will walk away from this thread...btw I was the first person in this thread to warn people about triggers...your criticism is entirely misdirected my good sir...

 

Hey man. I wasn't criticising you. I was just saying that we need to be supporting and inclusive of people with varying amounts of self control. Yeah- I acknowledge you posted warning people of triggers. beauty has now posted a warning on the original post, so we're all good. All good?