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My death grip possibly cured after 6 months. Thank you nofap!

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by troyan, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. ReclaimedLife

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    Ok a small status update:

    Sensitivity is so much better then i can MO with a condom on and using my left hand and medium strokes.
    Withut a condom, i can O with light strokes when i use coconut oil to MO.

    I am trying to strech it out as long as i can now, trying to go a full month or longer with MO.
    Porn isnt even a question anymore. It's just... gone. The pictures in my head aren't, but the urge to look at it is not there anymore.
    The reason why i try to fully go monkmode for as long as i can is because i think its reasier for the brain to recover and heal if i am arent MO or even just M at all.

    Thank you so much everyone here, it really has gotten so much better.
    And i will keep thanking you guys because it has affected my life so positively, even if you dont agree with my "MO"- politics
     
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  2. Uruvug

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    Happy to hear that you're regaining sensitivity. Was your issue only with DE?
     
  3. ReclaimedLife

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    I didn't have much DE, just not a lot of sensitivity. The last girl i slept with wasn't particularly "tight", and i also have a relatively thin dick. So that combination wasnt the best to start with. But she was still gorgeous to me and i hated the fact that i experienced lying next to that beautiful girl and i couldnt fuck her even if i wanted.
    We could have NEVER had sex if she would have asked for it at one point. Only when i was ready.
    Thank god i was so dominant and she was so submissive that that shit never happened.
    But it still felt bad. And i know it was PIED. Even when i was inside here, there was no fucking way we could have had prolonged slow sex, even though i really really wanted to do that.
    Porn fkd up my body image for woman and deathgrip fkd up my sensitivity.
    I am curious if that is different with a girl that has a better "pussymatch" for my dick. And even having to say that fucking annoys the hell out of me.

    But i know that working on my sensibility will make this aspect much better. And that is what i will focus on.
    On the shit i have control over : )
     
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  4. IGY

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    You are right! The reason masturbation and orgasm is discouraged during the reboot is because they trigger surges of dopamine in the brain. As this is the very thing that the brain is trying to rebalance, it just isn't helpful. But some members here get quite angry when they encounter someone that had chosen not to edge or masturbate and cum. :confused:

    If guys want to masturbate in a non-compulsive way after the reboot is a matter for them. But some do not realise why certain members do not wish to masturbate ever again. For me and many more, masturbation and porn are both sides of the same coin. Allowing one as a behaviour will likely cause the other to become a problem again.
     
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  5. Uruvug

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    So basically you had low sensitivity and lose your erection due to that? You can tell your gf to try to squeeze her PC muscles while having sex. It will increase the friction of her vagina on your penis.

    In my case is different, I actually do have good sensitivity, but I still lose the erection frequently. I'll check up with the doctor soon and see if there is any issue with the circulation down there. If not, then that probably means it is psychological like PIED...
     
  6. Uruvug

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    Well high speed porn is a relatively new thing and many people associate the increasing numbers of ED sufferers (especially in the younger ages) with masturbating to a lot of porn. But masturbation was invented since we had hands... I am pretty sure your grandfather masturbated a lot too, just not to high speed porn. So in other words, I don't believe that masturbation itself should be an issue. Maybe during the reboot, yes. But I don't think that it by itself can really cause any of these issues as long as you don't use the so called "death grip". If you want to stay away from it, good for you, but honestly I am skeptic about it being a serious problem. I would even say the same thing about edging. I might be wrong of course, but I am just skeptic.
     
  7. Problem is a lot of people here are compulsive masturbators (high speed P being a main factor) so M is a big issue.
     
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  8. ReclaimedLife

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    I said "Ill try to". Because, while i can deal with the urges of wanting to have sex (not to watch porn, just sleeping with a pretty girl), i am more or less "ok". But after between 2-3 weeks of not having sex or MO, i start to go fkn nuts. The second i get any quiet time, and that always is the case before going to bed, i am thinking about sex. I start to not be able to think straight anymore at that point. If i want to read a book, i cant, if i want to learn, i can't. Literally anything that involves me thinking without doing something physically triggers this thought pattern. And it comes back over and over and over again.

    I've had this as well with the girl. If you can get any kind of hard erection without being with your girl, its probably not a physical issue. Your brain is probably blocking it. I would try Karezza if you have a girl that is up for it. You can practice Karezza without intercourse as well.

    And i told that girl to train them and start doing kegels before i come back to my country to see her again, but the day i came back, she told me she has a boyfriend.
    It was complicated, but it was her right to do that due to the long distance and i am not mad or sad about it anymore.
    We had a great time when we were together and i will take as much time as i need to find someone new.
    We stopped being in contact, blocked each other on social media and i deleted every single picture i have.
    There is no active reminder of our very short but extremely passionate relationship left anymore.
     
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  9. IGY

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    You knew my grandpa did you? :confused: Yeah, well, leave him out of it!
    As I said: "If guys want to masturbate in a non-compulsive way after the reboot it is a matter for them." However, edging is completely different. This is a very toxic activity and it produces a sustained high of dopamine over several hours. :eek: :oops: :(
     
  10. ReclaimedLife

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    So... no Karezza sex?
     
  11. IGY

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    Idk. I was talking about masturbation not sex techniques.
     
  12. ReclaimedLife

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    But you were referring to edging... It is very much possible to M with slow strokes and a light grip and still edge without O at the end.
    Similar to karezza. (Only in a very abstract way, i am fully aware that you can NEVER really compare real sex with any form of M)
     
  13. Uruvug

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    I've heard about karezza before... But I don't know, that seems a bit strange to me. I just want to be able to have normal sex. I am sure that karezza could be very pleasurable to do maybe a couple of times to keep things different, but I don't want to be doing this every time I am having sex. Maybe if my ED persists and I don't have anything else to try, I might resort to this...

    Now, on the topic of edging, yeah it can be a trigger for many people with compulsive behavior to porn so that's why I don't recommend it to others. Personally, I am able to control my urge and just do edging without porn and without ejaculating at the end. I do it as a training to see if it improves my PE. Edging would probably be bad if you do it while watching a lot of porn, but if you do it without any porn and in a relaxed state, I don't think it should be bad.
     
  14. IGY

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    Yes, this is harmful for the reason I gave.
    Agreed.
     
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    Wait until you find a girl you have a deep connection with, practice karezza with her and see how it goes.
    Forget karezza with a one night stand or friend with benefits.
     
  17. ReclaimedLife

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    Please, for the love of god, provide me with some form of help to overcome this tremendous will of sleeping with a pretty girl.

    That shit becomes almost impossible to bear between the second and the third week.
    I just haven't found any way of dealing with this outside of MO w/o porn and no edging.
     
  18. IGY

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    Keep focused on your reason for doing this. You want to function normally in the future. Your heightened sexual arousal and obsession with instant gratification is not normal. It is part of the dopamine-chasing, porn-induced addiction. Life is not all about sex. So, get busy with other pursuits. You will soon enter the flatline and have no sexual desire whatsoever. Chill. :cool:
     
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  19. Uruvug

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    Well I do want to have sexual desire. I don't want to become an asexual potato. Having sexual desire makes me feel alive.
     
  20. IGY

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    I was responding to someone else and I was not talking about normal sexual desire, nor was I talking about becoming asexual. Notice, I was addressing, "obsession with instant gratification". In any case, you will also go into a flatline and experience zero libido for a while. It is not about being asexual, it is about your brain taking the time to heal itself from the abuse you've put it through.
     

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