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A time before all fetishes

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Happy Gnome, May 27, 2015.

  1. Found this on the internet:

    It is hard to believe that this thing is possible unless we are socialized into finding the naked body attractive and being attracted to certain body parts. I think sexuality must be relational, and that we only get aroused in particular contexts, whether in a relationship or a PMO session. The relationship in the latter is between you and the screen, which tends to break down healthy sexuality and make woman sexually appealing despite the context.
     
  2. IGY

    IGY Guest

    I would agree with the quotation in principal, although I have never tried naturism, alas. :( However, I have viewed a lot of such pictures on line and find them to be entirely non-arousing. The families in them just seem very... well, natural. I agree that certain clothing, especially underwear and beachwear is much more arousing than nakedness.

    I found the same thing when I became interested in the work of Gunther von Hagens (the German anatomist who invented the technique for preserving biological tissue specimens called plastination). I have hours and hours of his anatomical dissections and, save for fans of necrophilia, they are not arousing either. Of even greater significance is that these are performed live in front of an audience and there are naked men and women with every inch of their body on display, yet this is not arousing either. There are many close ups of the genitals (and, yes, the breasts :rolleyes:) and their skin is drawn on by a highly skilled anatomical artist, yet again, none of this is arousing.

    Consequently, mumchance, I also think that sexuality must be relational and that we only get aroused in particular contexts, whether in a relationship or a PMO session. :)
     
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  3. Also, the very first time I had live drawing session at uni with a male model, I was uncomfortable for ten solid minutes and then something changed, you realise and view the body as what is, purely a work of art. I'd recommend this to everyone objectifying. Why is it that we don't get aroused by luscious Renaissance paintings of classicist plumpy women, but if it's a bad quality photo on the Internet suddenly everyone loses their sperm?
     
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  4. Limeaid

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    Anything covered becomes taboo and therefore interesting and possible sexually arousing. Where women cover breasts they are sexual and where they don't they aren't. Finding breasts sexually arousing has no basis in evolution since both large breasts and small breasts are equally able to provide milk for the young but we covet large breasts.

    I personally think fetishes start with your first introduction to sexually explicit material. My husband first saw a sexual picture with a woman in leather and so it is a bit of a turn on for him. I won't go into my own personal fetish ;). Although I'd hardly call it a fetish, more like an arousal trigger.
     
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  5. IGY

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    That makes sense Limeaid. Have you got any idea why feet are the most common non-sexual fetish?
     
  6. I agree with IGY this makes total sense Limeaid thank you! I still wonder about fetishes like mine though. I'm a sneaker slave, I worship Adidas and I'm tricophile. The first two could eventually but I don't think so be explained by marketing, but hair? I don't get it, it's not something you hide, it's not a taboo? And funny enough I only started to notice I was tricophile when I understood I was bisexual and at the very beginning of watching porn... But that might mean nothing because I started porn straight with hardcore gay kinky stuff.
     
  7. IGY

    IGY Guest

    By the way the English Dictionary says that sneakers are:- (mainly US & Canadian) canvas shoes with rubber soles worn for sports or informally. So, it is not an English word. I thought you might find this useful to know as English isn't your first language and Americanisms continue to corrupt it. As for the hair fetish, I could say that too, but mine is quite specific. I have an androgenic hair fetish. However, the hair on a person's head does not arouse me. But this started a couple of years before I started masturbating and 30 years before I first saw pornography. Strange, but true! :p
     
  8. Limeaid

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    Well I have heard that it is mostly a male fetish and that it has to do with the feet of their mother being at crawling height. When kids crawl they always like to play near the mothers feet so depending on the mother it could be bare feet, stockings or high heels. It is an interesting theory! The only drawback is why others don't develop this fetish....maybe something to do with attachment gone awry?
     
  9. IGY

    IGY Guest

    Hmm, how intriguing! I have never heard that as an explanation for a foot fetish, but it sounds plausible.
     
  10. thebishone

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    I definitely think it is society that tells us what is "sexually attractive", because when you really think about it, any sort of fetish is pretty gross and strange.
     
  11. Yes I indeed knew it but I copiously hate the term trainers sonically but I appreciate you precising :) I like the word kicks too! Haha, it's so weird for me body hair does nothing like I don't really care, it's just... watching people shave (especially their genitals, but not in a forced sexual way, just casual, like how-to, this was extremely hard to find when I was PMOing) and the head hair. I'm so freaking weird.

    @Sursum Corda very true and even more - if even possible - intriguing for me. Yukkk, you mentioning Georges Bataille reminds me how I read Story of the Eye in the first month of my reboot because my tutor asked me to... Well part of it actually, I wasn't able to finish. Sick. Disgusting to the last degree and fascinating.

    I've actually heard before of Ramachandran theory about foot fetishism, when I watched documentaries about extreme fetishes, I think it makes quite sense. Interesting approach @Limeaid! The guy in the documentary - safe for work and on YouTube and that I can link if someone's interested - is the most extreme foot fetishist collector in the world, with an incredibly huge collection, and he happens to be gay. I'm interested because psychologically your explanation could make sense here, I wonder if him being gay has an impact or is a consequence leading to his fetish.

    @thebishone I definitely agree with strange, but not necessarily gross... Not all fetishes are kinks. Is it gross because precisely contrary to the society's vision of a normal, healthy sexuality in your opinion?
     
  12. thebishone

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    My bad, I was referring to the actual gross fetishes, like the kinks. So yes, those are gross in my opinion. I also agree with you though, not all fetishes are gross.
     
  13. IGY

    IGY Guest

    There is another aspect to all this which is hard to fathom. Similar to breasts, women's butts are considered by many to be a sexual organ. To some extent, I could understand the orifice being so - again in the mind of some - but you often hear guys just going on about women's 'big booty'. How is that sexually arousing? :confused:
     
  14. Maybe the shape/roundness plays a role in the attraction? Maybe the shape triggers something primal that makes us desire it?

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    Let's say you've never seen a grape or a raisin before. If you saw both at the same time, which one do you think you would choose, if you could only choose one?
     
  15. Powerof3

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    I'm glad you said that. The thing about first sexual experiences immediately allowed me to figure out why I like teasing so much. One of my first sexual experiences was with a girl who straddled on top of me to get me hard and wouldn't move and didn't let me go. I was so turned on and frustrated and she didn't do anything to me; just teased me about my boner and made sure I stayed hard and couldn't moved. Later in life I fingered a girl and that was hot but that didn't make me anywhere near as horny as being teased like that did. I may have to go away from the computer now recalling that memory may cause some problems.
     
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  17. Paulie

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    Going back to nudism or as some people call it naturism. I have tried it and consider myself to be a naturist/nudist. Being naked or seeing others naked is not particularly arousing for me because in a nudist setting it is in a non sexual environment. I think of it like this; your dog is naked, when he sees another dog it is also naked but they don't see each other as sexual objects because they are naked, nor so they get aroused by each others nakedness.

    When I am at home I usually am naked weather permitting, the first thing I do when I get home from work is loose the clothing. My nakedness causes me no temptation to PMO. If I see another person naked they don't cause a state of arousal in me. If they are attractive I can acknowledge that fact that they are attractive without it becoming sexualised or arousing.

    I think most people have been programmed by the media, religion and pornography to associate nudity as being rude and or a sexualised state. Many people these days are so afraid to be seen naked by others other than sexual partners, that they change clothing hiding under towels in public change rooms etc, because they feel that to be seen naked is so bad. Body image also plays a part in that I am sure, contributing to the issue thanks again to the media.

    I think nudity is natural, non sexual, and liberating. I enjoy being nude because of the freedom. it makes me feel, I am not sure why, innocent and pure. I feel the stresses of life drift away as the clothing is removed. Seeing people nude should not be a sexual or arousing but for many their minds have been trained to see it as such.
     

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