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Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Deleted Account, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. Enkid25

    Enkid25 Fapstronaut

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    I spent 2 years to understand than NoFap don't work for me. Masturbation is not wrong. we believe so because we feel guilty to masturbate with porn and with chocking pictures.
    If you eat some shit, what's the answer : stop eating ? No, it's to stop eating shit.
    It's logical. NoFap can't allow you to be happy with your sexuality, it will allow you to not feel guilty, to have energy, and to contain your frustration. But it's not an answer to the basic problem.
     
  2. Emanuil

    Emanuil Fapstronaut

    of course i feel much better. I can't compare my life now with what I had before. You're welcome to join:) there's always a place for those who wants to help themselves.
     
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  3. Emanuil

    Emanuil Fapstronaut

    Agree with you in everything except in your statement that "masturbation is not wrong".
    It is true that you can achieve nothing with NoFap until you learn what you primary problem is (why do you PMO at first place), and it won't help until you solve that first.
    When that happens you can completely lose urge to masturbate (or you can just replace it with regular sex, which is healthier;)
    Sadly majority of people on this website don't understand that.
     
  4. Kramum

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    Sex healthier?
    Well... Considering PTSDs and all of that, masturbation seems to be the healthier choice.
     
  5. Enkid25

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    Humans are animals, and animals masturbate too, it's natural. Are animals wrong to masturbate ?
    It's because we don't learn to masturbate correctly that we think it's wrong. But we can, and without any compusilvity behaviour (sorry for my english, I am french lol).
     
  6. Emanuil

    Emanuil Fapstronaut

    PTSD is Post-traumatic stress disorder - is that what you wanted to say?
     
  7. Again, you're objectively wrong cause all it takes is a glance at the Success Stories to see that it's more common than you think.

    Yes, you do? People do that with nicotine and alcohol all the time, if you don't believe it's possible with PMO (but it is).

    PIED is probably the most common reason to quit people mention in this forum. It is not this extreme case you make it out to be, it happens all the time. ED can also happen just by masturbating excessively, without porn.

    And who's talking about quitting through will alone? I never said that, in fact I advocate for a holistic approach where you improve your entire lifestyle in order to succeed, not just abstinence.

    Look, it's simple. I said it before and I'll say it again: it's totally fair to quit one thing at a time, I'm not saying it's wrong or less effective to do so. It's what I did, after all. However, don't downplay the side effects of MO alone. You think someone masturbating twice or more a daily might have side effects? No, they definitely will have.

    Saying you are "bound to fail" by quitting PMO entirely, that it's "one in a hundred" who can do it is not only discouraging to those who come here in search of the opposite, encouragement, but it's also false, like I've said multiple times.
     
  8. Kramum

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    I mean to say STDs.
     
  9. Emanuil

    Emanuil Fapstronaut

    I thought so ... but when I said that regular sex can be "healthier" (than masturbation) I was thinking on sex with emotional partner, not promiscuous sex with random people who can give your STDs.
     
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  11. Survival 3 Man

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    Dude hardcore mode is the only true cure this dude who maturbates think you will be cured but all roads lead to porn once your exposed to it. Alcoholics dont drink weaker concentration of alcohol its complete abstinence. I believe your spouse should the only woman to receive your seed of life. Just remember no sex while you reboot because this is a time for discipline and solving all problems check out universal man reforged man course. I have just started the course because iam serious about freedom from slavery. If you dont want to pay you can check him out on youtube.
     
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  12. I'll see you there then. Thank you mate! Let's be free.
     
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  13. Kramum

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    Do however you like. We'll see what results it will give you.
    I only told you my idea and what my opinion is but yes it's all up to you.
     
  14. Enkid25

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    In 2 years, my best score is 14 days for No pmo, fighting against myself. Since 3 months, i definitively quit porn, and i made 40 days with only MO and no problem at all. When i just wanted to start a nofap, i made 8 days and i just started to watch stupid fictive pictures. Because i get frustrated... To compare results, NoFap is impossible for me : i need sex and we need sex, it's biological. I tryed everything : P only, P+M only, PMO (like everybody), MO only, M only. P+O seems possible but i didn't tryed. MO is not a problem because i tryed ! Surprinsingly PM is worst than PMO (more energy and more addiction, so dangerous). P only is strange because it affect your self-confident but not your energy... I searched a lot, and my conclusion is NoFap is counter-productive even if it targets the good problem.
     
  15. Timecop

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    Does semen retention means that you will not have sex?
     
  16. Stop rationalizing. Many people in the world go without sex all the time: celibates, monks, priests, philosophers, scientists, ugly people, handicapped people, etc... What we need is love, not sex. Only an addict believes he cannot live without the object of his craving.

    "NoFap" literally means "No M". Most people on the forum seem to think it means "No P", but "Fap" is just slang for "M". How ironic that many join a forum called "NoFap" and believe M is healthy. I guess it wouldn't be too different from joining an AA forum called "No Alcohol" where most of its members believe alcohol is healthy. Denial is a tough step for many.

    Not necessarily. It means to not ejaculate. Some want to have sex (without ejaculation) while others prefer abstinence since it's easier to manage. It depends on what a person wants.
     
  17. Enkid25

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    It's true that some people don't need sex, it exists. But it's a minority, and many of people who reject sex miss something. Like people who never eat vegetable, it's possible, but you miss something. Do you think handicapped people are not sexually frustrated when they can't have sex? Because of an addiction, you think pleasure is wrong because you feel guilty. But it's not. Porn just fucked up our brain and we think we should forget sex, no sense for me.

    I know what NoFap is, and I tryed, that's why I Am here. I just say it's not working because the "M" Is not the problem, it's the "P+M". Both fuck up our brains and our way to masturbate. But M is not wrong, and like I saïd, animals masturbate...100% natural. It's sad NoFap offer a fake solution to a real problem, and people feel desperate to not succeed the challenge because desire of sex and biology is too strong.
    Alcohol is like porn : addictions. But M is like drinking : necessary.
    With abstinence or NoFap, then I got problems, ejaculation too fast etc... And I felt like shit to not succeed. And with M only, my dick was hurted. Because if there is no O, i could spend hours to masturbate. That's why MO is better than M. The desire to not spend energy and be pure, it's like people who want to be virgin before the wedding for me.
     
  18. Survival 3 Man

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    Howya man the thing is once your exposed to porn and it builds pathways in your brain, you will be liable for the rest of your life especially in catastrophic incidents such as death. You have to build up self control and patience and masturbation offers none of these values. Mastubation might be working now but its a quick fix which will inevitable led to porn your going to board one day and wont have he mental capacity to say no. There a lot of mystery about semen and is very fruitful, it would be foolish to waste it instead could be used for muscle growth and learning new skills.
     
  19. InappropriateUsername

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    Was talking about this with another member. Mindful Masturbation is reintroducing HEALTHY masturbation back into your life.

    1. You do not use porn, fantasy or other stimuli.
    2. You concentrate on the physical act while keeping your thoughts clear. Focus on just the sensation.
    3. You only do it when your heads right. Not when you’re anxious, upset, sad, stressed etc.
    4. you do it infrequently, say once a month. Not daily or weekly.
    5. If you have a partner you’re open with them about it.
     
  20. Survival 3 Man

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    Once you're exposed to porn you will get bored of it and relapse. You have to consider catastrophic events your emotions will want more which is porn.
     

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