Acted out a porn fantasy

I mean google can't find the quote anywhere - which is saying something. The closest it can find is an article about anti-zionism and aljazeera blaming jews for porn in general. So my guess is you couldn't have heard it from his lips - as no one could have - because it's entirely made up both from a wording standpoint and an argument standpoint.

As a jew - GTFO with this conspiracy BS. Plenty of real reasons porn is harmful to the makers and consumers without bringing religion into it.

 

I am not afraid to type Jew. I might do it again, Jew, Jew. I don't really care about political correctness, I like edgy jokes in the right company, but I don't throw them at random unsuspecting people. I phrased it that way as a reference to the word-that-cannot-be-said that starts with the letter N. I got that this is a slur and nobody likes being called names but the taboo that arose around the n-word is so absurd and huge that the word itself got a lot of attention from edgelords etc. There is this whole genere of YT videos when someone says the n-word and things explode or other bad things happen.

Conspiracy theorists believe mostly in nonsense but sometimes they have right intuitions about harmful things. When they blame "Jews" or "NWO" or Illuminati they really mean bad actors. I can totally see some porn creator hating Christ for harming his buisness. This is quite believable resentment. The error is the belief that all bad actors are a single organised group that could be identified with a single term. This is pretty much secularised attempt at answearing the problem of evil. If there is evil, there has to be demons. The biggest problem is that people focus on the crazines of blaming some group for all evil of the world, not on the problem itself. So yeah, there are many reasons why porn is harmful, tinfoiling it is going to make people ignoring the issue.

On the other side I think that all this conspiracy thery stuff made a lot harder to talk about international relations of Israel or preferences of Jews as a voting block, because criticism is often attacked as conspiracy theory talk or something like that.

 

It probably work both ways.

If you have both wacky and rational critics it is easy to claim that they are all wacky. I don't think this term was created on purpose, but some of those people are being given way to much voice when they throw obvious nonsense. Painting your enemy as worse than they are is political propaganda 101. Having a excessively wierd group similar to your critics really help with that.

 

I think that might actually have been Al Goldstein, and not Ron Jeremy.

Ron Jeremy is good friends with the pastor of a Church, and has taken part in discussions about porn. There's also a few clips of him playing "Amazing Grace" on the harmonica on YouTube, so I don't think he would have made a quote like that. That seems to be the quote from Al Goldstein.

Al Goldstein has passed on, but he was a pornographer, who produced a number of magazines, movies, television programmes, and was involved in other ventures, mainly in the 1970s and 80s. He was very anti authoritarian, and made a quote very similar to what you mentioned, except he also blasphemed against God in it as well! He was Jewish, but didn't really associate himself as being religiously Jewish, as he seemed to be very anti religion in general.

The full quote is on his Wikipedia article...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Goldstein

 

No - they tend to mean jews when they say jews. And as someone who's family barely escaped poland in the 40's I take that shit seriously.

 

Don't take it too personally. I am polish, so as a member of other nationality targeted by Nazis I understand how you feel about this period. I heard lots of bs about the period such as Polish invaded Germany, Germans were only defending themselves, Polish were genociding Germans, interwar Poland was a communist country (despite winning the Polish-Soviet war of 1920 lol), Germans build camps for communist terrorists, and no innocent or any nationality died there. Denial of German crimes during WW II is not limited to strictly Holocaust but policies toward other ethnic groups as well.

They mean Jews yes, but what I mean is that in a conspiracy theorist mind there is a strong need for someone resposible for all the bad things happening. NWO or Jews are secular devil in their "logic". They project the potential, fake or very real injustice onto them. Most people can't be radicalised without right hook. To do this you have to sell them the right narrative that creates strong emotions. Germans after World War I were extremely pissed off. 4 years of war and millions of lives lost were in vain, they have lost territories, colonies, Emperor and pride. They felt that their nation was treated injustly by the winning powers. Channeling this grief on a scapegoat (Jews) in a form of Stab in the back myth allowed Hitler ro radicalise the masses and lead them against those "responsible" of everything that is wrong. There was no Stab in the back and ironically many German Jews died in WW I and there were some higly decorated veterans among them, but it wasn't important. By controlling strong emotions of the crowd nazis were able to tell them anything. What I mean is that nobody wakes up and says to himself "what a wonderful day to become political extremist!". The reasons behind aren't logical, but there is often emotional circumatance. There are bad actors in society, that is certain. Pornographers do not have good intention. But if you'll say that group x is responsible and in addition to this group x is doing this for some greater malicious intent (drug dealers or pornographers are doing this for money this is not a consliracy to destroy society, harm done to society is a side effect, not goal) in a way that plays on right emotions, then people may get radicalised.

I remember when media were criticising Joker movie for somehow inspiring violence and mass shootings (I remember that a knife attack happened at Frozen 2 premiere of all things, Joker premiere was peaceful). I think that creating excessive social taboo around radicalisation is wrong. "They are just hateful bigots, school shooters are hateful incels, there is no reason that made them that way, there were just bad people." I think that there would be more extremists, terrorists and school shooters if the process wouldn't be be better understood.

 

You don't want to worry too much about conspiracy theorists. Many conspiracy theorists are so immersed in finding out about conspiracies, that they sometimes don't look too closely at the facts.

Yes, a lot of the conspiracies put the blame on Jewish people, but sometimes they're not specifically against Jewish people, they can sometimes just be in regard to zionism, etc as well.

It can also happen the other way around though, as there can also be Jewish people, who put the blame on others who aren't Jewish, so it's not just a one way street at times.

A lot of it comes down to some people's need to find a scapegoat to make themselves feel better about themselves, and sometimes scapegoats can be from any group as well. I'm of Irish ancestry, so I know all about being a scapegoat as well!

 

This is an incrediblyyyyyyy accurate statement.

From personal experience, the fantasy is often MUCH more arousing than the actual act.

 

Don't worry mate, I've been there myself, and can attest that the fantasy didn't match the reality. That's not to say that it wasn't somewhat pleasurable, but no where near to the degree of the fantasy. And yh, it messed me up for a while, but slowly I have managed to be more compassionate and understanding of myself, and I am in a much better place cos of it.

But like any addiction, it is always much easier to slip back into if you have been there before.

 

conscience is relative. some animal-lovers think: my neighbor eats beef. i cant imagine how they sleep at night.

eventually many people accept there is no such thing as afterlife. they resort to all dopamine-seeking acts and then justify them.

 

as i seem to realise ever and ever again, many people here seem to think that the stereotype of the endangered, suffering, drug addicted porn star is and was all there was. Sorry to tell you and playing devil's advocate for a second, if you dont know of any person who has made any sort of sex work and who isnt damaged, addicted to drugs, who wasnt raped or abused, then you see only what you want , not as the world is. Yes , many people who were involved with that industry were already damaged or had personalities who tended towards types who would later abuse them , or ended up making bad life decisions, got addictions, one i know was living under a bridge in LA, others committed suicide... but they do not represent what is the majority of people below 50 years or 40 years of age who are not like that.

There have been plenty of them, across a variety of nations and decades. Look for Bobbie Star and her life story. Seka and Aunt Peggie the american danish actress who started later in life. And many others. And for the past 20 years, 15 ever more, the "porn star" and the big studio fake movie is in decline, real people , singles and couples make websites, videos, have webcam pages, snapchats, only fans, ph channels, etc and porn material that is real, feels genuine and thruthfull and healthy and sexy because it is just that , a camera held by someone or staying still on top of a matress and recording the sexual/ love act. No takes, no faking, no camera men and lights men, no exagerrated body parts, or plastic breats and siliconed bottoms, no hilariously false screams and contrived plot points like the Plumber who wants to fix the cable! LOL Just natural recordings of real people.

People who have children, who are married, who dont do drugs, who are not maniacs or narcissists. They dont even need to show their faces and identities in many cases! Hows that for thrthfullness?
I havent watched that type of fake , ugly porn in years! and yes a i agree that type of porn is ugly and over the top and often just a product of an editing room and lots of acting and pills and fakery. But thats in a fast decline. There are still professional studios yes but they have shrunk a lot and have substantially improved many of its products to make things feel more real because of the wave of amateur and personal porn that emerged, and obviously had to emerge with smarphones, tablets, webcams, fast and light pcs and editing programmes available easily.

What about the case of the famous teacher who is suspended from teaching due to filming her many interracial videos, her case and videos are famous and online. She made porn, whats her major problem? the only issue i see is that she became recognized and its unfortunately having consequences, because she did it and enjoyed it and is a healthy person without any drug or abuse problems.

So here are few links to some interviews with a few people who work in that industry , you can find many more if you search for them and if you switch to other countries you will find many many more. WARNING MIGHT HAVE SOME TRIGGERING MATERIAL:

https://straight.fleshbot.com/6023502/twenty-questions-with-hot-porno-newbie-evelyn-claire/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/a21f2d96-ab6a-4fc6-8eee-f4b5a83ae365
https://metro.co.uk/2017/02/15/why-as-a-woman-i-love-watching-porn-6421113/?ito=amp-thumbnail-link

on porn vs real desire : https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/02/boyfriend-porn-fetish-ghosting-sex-advice.html

Bobbi Stars interviews : https://blog.adultdvdtalk.com/podcasts/bobbi-starr-adultex_2008.mp3
https://www.pride.com/box-office/me...icious-girlie-fantasy-and-porn-star-interview

An accomplished swimmer, oboist, music teacher , a mother and university graduate who also did porn ( granted not all of it to my taste ) hardly fits that stereotype of the dumb unaccomplished uneducated poor girl who had to survive and made the wrong choices in life leading to suicide or drugs does it?

 

No problem, thanks for that.

 

Think again...messing with the endocannabinoid system is no joke...
Do you eat celery? Do you eat tomatoes? Do you know there is nicotine in it? Granted that the amount is much smaller than in a cigarette, wich creates an overdose, but trace amounts of nicotine is even benefitial, is the all the stuff involved in the manufacture of tobacco, and the tobacco plant itself what it's seriously dangerous, not nicotine itself.

A double edged weapon, but a necessary weapon nonetheless

 

You acted out a fantasy and that's not a bad thing. Don't feel guilty for that, humanity has overcome that stage. You also better understand that maybe acting that fantasy out it's exactly what you wanted, instead of fighting with yourself about it.