PORN BANNED IN INDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Congrelous my friend please do not compare India and north korea.
We are a Democratic country and everyone have Right to show disapproval to any decision.
Even now many people have there disapproval to porn ban and may be the ban will be soon abolished by Court.

But in my point of view ban is a good decision and if not full ban at least revenge porn and porn that contain violence should be ban permanently.

 

The "North Korea" argument is a slippery slope argument. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

Of course it's not comparing North Korea and India directly, it is describing the similarity of mindsets in blind obedience to authority.

If you take obeying authority to its conclusion, which is to say, if the Indian government can ban websites against the government, if the Indian government can ban porn websites, why shouldn't it be able to eventually ban whatever it wants?

I agree with you that the Court probably won't uphold it, but if you call yourself a democracy, then it's a debate that needs to be had.

Not everyone in a democracy is going to agree, and is it the right of some people to take away the rights of others because they disagree?

 

@Congrelous I agree that the best possible way is to have a discussion.

But in indian Parliamentary system bills are discussed in Parliament and not the orders by government (there can be special Parliament session for that).

If all orders are on discussion the government may not work properly.

And in case of pron ban the government had power to ban it directly so no bill is required for that.

Also the order's by government can be challenged in the Court.

In case of porn ban the court may abolish it because it may void the Right to liberty [article 21] but that depend on what writen in complete order of government and there may be partial ban or no ban depending on the law and constitution.

But i think revenge pron will be ban as they are made forcefully or secretly.

Iam not saying that you are worng but this is the way the system works here. It may have some faults but no government system is perfect in world.

 

The issue has never been the porn or whether Govt. has power to ban it or not. Elected democratic govt can do this by issuing executive order when house is not in session, true indeed. What frightening is the Govt. is meddling in something so private in nature.

Its sad that young' uns like yourself supporting the ban w/o recognising why and how it is enforced at the first place. Is it something has to do with preventing sex crimes, woman empowerment, revenge porn, sex education in schools or general awareness among populace or is it driven by religious, cultural or moral rhetoric. How do you know because you don't sound sure about your govt intentions and maY I add this, because there wasn't any public debate on any media leading to this (I am assuming). We are talking about this because it took everyone by surprise not because Indians demanded it. See the difference.

There are ignorants everywhere but you on the other hand, have access to internet and education so you have little or no excuse about not knowing your rights (Apologies if I sound too harsh). At the end it's your country, your elected govt. and outsiders have little or no stakes involved. Cheers.

 

@zod i read in todays newspaper the supreme court of india had order government to ban child porn and all those 857 website were containing child pron and no further ban will be passed unless child or revenge porn is considered.
They have actually only ban the child and revenge porn which i think all of us will be in favor.

I would like to tell you porn ban is a hot topic of debate in our media from past days.

 

Good!

What's wrong with banning online porn?

The internet is not a private place. It is a public area. If it isn't legal to do sex acts on the street in public, it shouldn't be legal to do it online in public.

Simple as that.

 

Yes it is a good move, but to what extent?.I relapsed today even after the porn sites were banned. Only 857 sites were banned and with still 1000's accessible I dont think it will make any impact.

Ban Internet to ban porn!

 

False analogy.

Because you own, and pay for a domain, which is a business, and has a right to preserve the privacy of it's patrons, has the right to be private (like an exclusive club for example), and is not easily accessible except by explicitly searching for it. A sex shop has shuttered windows and is difficult to find precisely for the reason that people don't want to be seen shopping there in public, and it offends most people's sensibilities to see it in public.

The internet is not public. You pay a utility fee to private companies just to get access to it, and whether or not websites choose to make their content public, is up to them.

 

A public space is a social space that is generally open and accessible to people. A 10 year-old with a mobile phone can access the internet for free, just using the data connection of the sim card. Not really difficult.

The point is, is that these websites shouldn't be making their content public (your words, lol) because it is offensive and dangerous.

 

Wow, seriously?
When government was doing nothing people used to say, oh government should do this, government should do that.
And now that they have done SOMETHING, doesn't matter if its really gonna make, people start complaining...
It doesn't matter if they did it as a part of some bigger plan, it doesn't matter if its not gonna last long. They did something, something that not every government is doing. And this something is certainly better than nothing.
Its a message that 'porn is bad', Indian government is accepting that formally. Isn't good? Isn't that going to help people, even if the number is insignificant? Is that making me proud? Yes, even if the ban is removed later.
And for those who think that the government is eventually gonna ban everything it wants to and banning porn is just the first step, please, this doesn't work in India, many have tried and failed terribly, its all on the internet, I don't need to tell by name.
So just celebrate it if you think its gonna work or wait until you are proven right.

 

Yes. But it is a good sign that Govt had taken some initiative for this. But what i feel is Our society is different from Western countries. In every sense what i feel is banning porn will certainly make some changes in our society.In many remote areas low scale workers are buying smartphones(whether its company made or duplicate) because they are addicted to PORN.In ordinary phones they cannot watch all those things.So atleast change can be made in that level and thats a positive sign

 

Exactly, not everyone here is a geek. And those who can bypass such restrictions will always find a way out. Banning is certainly going to keep some people from consuming internet porn.

 

Whatever it is, the Easiness of PORN availability will reduce.Thats what the Govt Intend to do. Not trying to change the whole PORN VICTIMS in a single day

 

No offence meant, but its Modi.

PS:I liked this guy after he actually banned some 900 porn sites.

 

I didn't say it was offensive or dangerous. I said that it offends the sensibilities of some people. You can't expect to have freedom of expression, and then expect not to have freedom of expression of things you don't like. You either have equal rights across the board, or you have one group controlling everything, and who's to say you're going to agree with them?

This is the trade off of the Theocrat and the authoritarian. "My way and my way only." Then when someone who disagrees with you uses the same power, you scream "Fascist!!!"

You're responsible for your kids. I'm not.

You either have a universal ethical code for what's acceptable in terms of human rights, or you don't. Which is to say you're either a libertarian or an authoritarian, and if you claim to be neither, you're probably a hypocrite.

If some people started hitting themselves in the dick with a hammer, would you ban hammers?

 

I don't think a porn ban in and of itself is an awful idea. I think a porn ban without public backing is an awful idea. You get that public backing through sex/porn education, porn addiction research and recovery communities, media outreach, publications, etc. Grassroots activities that mostly happen outside the government.

Otherwise you get something like what happened in India where nothing changes and people who believe porn is harmful for humanity look like we approve of one sided moral policing, which no reasonable person in the free world would support.