Everytime I see a girl I imagine giving her a facial

Sure, the more we are into the porn trap the more we see women as objects. The good thing is that the opposite is also true: the longer without PMO, the cleaner thoughts we have about it! The solution is always the same: to stop PMO. Both things have happened to me.

 

That's exactly what porn teaches us. A true gentleman would take care of her, take her on a date. Respect her autonomy if she refuses to have sex or wants to end the relationship. Never ever have I seen any intimacy in porn videos, it's all about penetration and other sick shit.

 

I agree. It's quite a paradox, because many of us are looking for intimacy and connection in PMO. Maybe not consciously, but it is like that. We look for intimacy but we find something that it's not intimate at all. That is a tragedy per se.

 

True man. I've mostly used it to deal with my loneliness but it left me feeling even more empty. I'm 100% certain I'll be better off without it whether I'm in a relationship or not.

 

This is my shock flash when looking at women in passing or ones I have known since I was a kid, the images are dying down in the past 20 days

 

Neuroplasticity at work, your brain is rewiring itself. New circuits being formed to replace the old diseased one. I wish you a full and complete recovery from PMO.

 

@sickandiseased123 I wish you the same good buddy

 

This is an interesting insight. I'm not a porn watcher, so I guess I never would have come to such an epiphany. But based on what you and @sickandiseased123 have stated, it reminds me of one of the principles of addiction. The cravings continue, and/or grow, because the need which is craved is not met.

For example: Alcoholics who drink beer likely crave it, in part, because the body expects it to be a source of B-vitamins. The alcohol was manufactured by yeast, which is high in B-vitamins. However, the brewers have skimmed off all of this yeast, sometimes sold as "Brewer's yeast" in health-food stores for its high B-vitamin content; and the alcohol requires the consumption of some of the liver's B-vitamin stores to be broken down (denatured) in the liver, thus reducing the body's B-vitamin levels. It is theorized that supplementing with high levels of B-vitamins can help reduce the alcohol cravings for such individuals.

So, does porn, by giving an imbalanced sexual fare, increase its own addictivity?

I don't know. It would be interesting to see a study on the possibility.

 

In a lot of cases here for porn since we are only depleting we don't get good levels of anything, sure sex can be great for stress but if your stressing yourself out with sex then more of it isn't good, starving the urges is more of a thing I connect with and has been helping me keeping my head in that space, starve it so the reverse can take effect, let the body develop these chemicals at base line like it's suppose to. I liken it to how animals have a mating season, but humans do it whenever, if we stick to the mating season idea we can reboot no problem.

 

I guess you're right. The limbic system was designed (or evolved) for primitive behaviors. The 5Fs:

All these desires are normal. The family and fornicating (sex) desire is also natural, but porn hijacks this. Sex helps people bond, it makes you feel connected and helps with loneliness. Porn meanwhile can't do that. When you're done watching and masturbate, you feel it. You look around the room and see that no one is there, and you're still just as lonely as you were before. Then comes the guilt and all the commitment until porn hijacks your brain again.

I envy you mate. I wish I hadn't watched it but what's done is done. It's time to heal.

 

Quit porn and masturbation. Improve yourself in all ways possible. Eventually find a girlfriend, then maybe you can act out your wildest sexual fantasies with her.

Improve yourself, grow, heal from within, and then attract a mate.

 

Mating is a choice, it's not necessary, life is complicated. One could focus on making something other than children.

 

Reading this as a girl feels incredibly brutal. For lack of a better word. I'm glad you're rebooting. I wonder how many men have these kind of thoughts in the street

 

Telling from rate of breath, body language and the look on the persons face one can tell quite accurately what someone might be thinking.

 

As a submissive feminine queer guy I'm on the opposite side. I WANT an alpha dom guy to assert that control and dominance giving me a facial or multiple facials if there are multiple guys.

Yes, this is NOT normal. Porn has fueled the desire to WANT to be degraded and used and controlled in such a manner, also in others. There are females who perhaps suffered abuse when younger (like me) that also desire such treatment (or mistreatment, depending on how you look at it). To have a masculine alpha male call me a b**ch and c*m all over me, as degrading as that is, is EXTREMELY sexually arousing to me.

So it HAS to be psychological.

 

It is normal.
The brain can learn and unlearn anything. With enough patience.
Do semen retention for a while and you will start seeing the essence of women. Their true beauty.

 

Personally I don't think that its too common for guys to have these type of detailed specific thoughts while seeing women in the grocery store or around town. Guys do notice and quickly check out women that are attractive, and may have the occasional dirty thought. However to take the time to visualize a detailed play by play fantasy would require them to lose focus on what they're already doing, like shopping. Also it's a bit creepy. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying that I don't think its too common.

 

I also find myself daydreaming and hypersexualizing people in my mind. Sometimes I can't do the social thing unless I do it, otherwise I am bored, uninterested, anxious, and don't want to go (even if its to the store). For me, I think some of it is sex is satisfying, and mentally because of the p and camming I'm always thinking that way anyway, and in my underground world, that is attractive and appealing, so it's my way of asserting my confidence and coping with being social the way I know how. I do cringe when I think back at a few times I showed my thoughts a bit outwardly, like making a slight comment, and totally making everyone uncomfortable and becoming super embarrassed. So, I learned never to show it on the outside, but I do use it to regulate my social anxiety on the inside I guess.