Do we NEED to masturbate?

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  1. SnowWhite

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    There is no need. "blue balls" are a mystery. It's in your head only. Sometimes you might get a wet dream.
     
  2. SnowWhite

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    Well you can have wet dreams. That's nature's way to solve it.
     
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  3. diddykong

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    Primates masturbate and so is a natural, inherited behaviour for us. They don't appear to do it out of boredom - the currently held hypothesis is that they do it to eject inferior sperm and so masturbation seems to have a survival advantage.

    Interestingly, other mammals have been observed to stimulate themselves using trees/rocks etc.

    So, we don't NEED to masturbate, although at one point we evolved it because it conveyed a survival advantage as the primates that masturbated had better quality sperm.
     
  4. SnowWhite

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    With PMO you don't inject a drug into your body.
    But an orgasm leads to a release of body-made drugs, which have a similar and that's what makes addictive.
    In fact, you become addicted to orgasms.

    Nature has intended to get these orgasm-drug only together with a woman.
    And this again means getting into contact, building trust, flirting, romantic adventures, etc.
    With PMO, you are cutting short all of these important steps, and therefore, after you PMO, you have that feeling of emptyness.
     
  5. thatoneguy123

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    You don't need it
     
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  6. TheMeInMe

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    I suppose wet dreams can deal with that issue?
     
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  8. Quiver

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    We don't need it. You think you need it but ya don't
     
  9. SnowWhite

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    Yes, wet dreams are nature's way to solve a possible overload.

    But there is no need to masturbate.
     
  10. No, we do not need to by all means. In fact, individuals who preserve the seminal energy tend to be much more successful in nearly every aspect of their life as opposed to people who recklessly waste it, each time ejaculating; and throwing away part of who they are.
     
  11. lucky007

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    Well, look at it this way. If males don't have any form of sexual relief, during sleep, the male body induces its own sexual relief and you have what is known as a erotic dream that causes you to orgasm and release semen while you're sleeping.

    That said, I wouldn't say masturbation is nessessary, but what is nessessary is the periodic relief of sexual energy and seminal fluid that promotes a healthy mental well being and prostate.

    Now for the meat and potatoes: Why do so many men have an addiction to masturbation? I would argue that it's because males, particularly American males, don't have enough real sex with hot women.

    When you're having sex with hot women, and you're being serviced regularly, you have no real desire to masterbate on your own.

    In other countries males either have brothels or they have hot women who don't use sex as a weapon to where the average Joe can have a hot sexy girlfriend or 2 or 3. Not the case in America where sex work is illegal and hot women are reserved for the rich or outlaws.
     
  12. DayOne44

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    A large part of the problem for many men is that they objectify women.

    Suggesting that men be given license to have sex with multiple "hot women," in brothels or on-the-side, only continues that problem of objectification.

    This kind of fantasy is the root of the problem, and to fulfill this, we turn to porn.

    All of that would be only acting out in real life everything that we have done in the porn world.

    The consequences psychologically, physically and socially are the same.

    The internet has become a brothel.

    This is not driven by a biological need for sexual release.

    Getting that "live" is no better than getting off "virtually."

    Compulsive masturbation is a symptom of an unhealthy sexuality.

    Quitting masturbation and giving up fantasies of wanton promiscuity are necessary because these are parts of the PMO addiction.

    The hope is to abstain for a time to develop sexual health.

    Then, we will not objectify "hot women" in ways that trigger us to jerk off or exploit them in other ways for our own gratification.

    A healthy sexuality will first and foremost be reflected in an appreciation of women, even the "hot" ones, as real people.
     
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  13. feo1966

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    Do you have natural lubricant oozing from the palms of your hands? Nope.

    But the place where your penis is supposed to go DOES have natural lubricant.

    Coincidence....I think not.
     
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    Having consensual sex with a woman (or women) behind closed doors in the privacy of your own home isn't objectifying women. Your reply is the product of a person who not only pedestalizes women, but also wants to appear to be chivalrous in effort to gain some kind favorable attention from women. It's not up to you to let me or others know if women are being objectified, it's up to individual women. If a woman feels she's being objectified she will voice her concerns.

    As far as excessive masturbation, it's most likely due to a unfulfilled sex life due to the scientific fact that masturbation alone is unable to provide full sexual satisfaction.

    Masturbation is neither rewarding or deeply fulfilling which is why you keep doing it and it's exactly where the porn producers want you all to be.... At home alone jerking off uncontrollably to the hot women they get to bang while you pay $$$ to watch it.
     
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  15. IggyIshness

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    Thats complete bullshit
     
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    That ending BOOM *BIG EXPLOSION*
     
  17. SyrusDrake

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    From the replies I've skimmed, this opinion might be an unpopular one but I still stand to it: Masturbation is necessary!

    But let me step back and qualify my statement: Do we die if we don't masturbate or "release" otherwise? No. We don't. No discussion, that's pretty much a fact. So we don't need masturbation as organisms.
    But we're not just "organisms", we're complex, highly evolved, social creatures. And sex is part of our lives, whether you like it or not. The way I understand it, and the way it promotes itself, noFap is a sex-positive website. And masturbation is an integral part of a healthy view of sex, which is why I think that noFap, somewhat ironically, should promote masturbation without porn.
    Here are a few reasons I think that masturbation is necessary:
    1. It enables one to explore ones likes and dislikes. By frequently touching yourself and exploring every part of your body, you are familiar with what you do and don't like. I have a friend who had her first sex a few weeks ago and couldn't really enjoy it every time she tried again with her boyfriend. She then used her vibrator to figure out the right way to be penetrated so it would feel good. And now, her sex life is improving drastically.
    2. It reduces shame of ones own body and desires. If you're always told that it's bad to touch yourself, you'll think of your genitals as something "dirty" and not something that can be used to feel tremendous pleasure. But if you've become familiar with everything down there, you become more confident about it.
    3. Those two points have one very, very important result: You can clearly communicate your likes and dislikes towards your sexual partner. You know what to say and you're not ashamed of saying it. Even if it's your first time having sex, you can confidentially say "I do not like this, please stop". That confidence makes people, especially women, less vulnerable towards sexual exploitation. The partner can't say "Relax, it is supposed to hurt the first time." No, it's not. And she knows that.
      And even if your partner didn't want to exploit you, they won't know what you like if you don't tell them! That's just a fact. And using definite words instead of shameful euphemisms makes communication so much easier, enabling you to get from trial and error to mutually enjoyable sex so much quicker.
    So yes, we totally NEED masturbation. Not to survive but to enjoy a great sex life and be confident in our own bodies. noFap isn't here to condemn masturbation, on the contrary! It's supposed to promote healthy, enjoyable masturbation!
     
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  18. It is absolutely not a need.
    Sleep and food are needs because wothout them, you will die.
     
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  19. I think people forget that the brain needs certain things to stay healthy as well. The brain to so complex with all these different areas for different functions and the desire for sexual stimulation has its part in a healthy brain too. Masturbating releases hormones and endorphins that help relax our body and like exercise it also builds the muscles in the penis for eventual penetration and procreation. Again it's like exercise for the building of healthy muscles, it you don't use it you loss it. But again with exercise too much can have problems as well. Live if about finding the right balance.
     
  20. Sven Pellegrain

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    I think this link would be usefull contribution to this topic:

    If you have sex 3 x every night with your womam, you can evan not imagine what fapp is. :)

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...bation-and-homosexuality-do-not-exist/265849/

    And, yes, I agree that fapp is not need. In contrary, love is need, without love you will die, and masturbation is putting you away from real love. You do not need in advice to know what position make you feel good during sex, you can find out together with your spouse. :)
     
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