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Porn will make you have sexual inclinations to other men

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by SpartanViking, Oct 28, 2017.

  1. SpartanViking

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    Disclaimer: My affirmations in this post are based primarily in my own past experience. I am sure I could back it with scientific evidence, but now this is enough. The things I explain could be explained from the perspective of neurology, but, as I have no degree on that, I prefer to explain it in the way I understand it, with few and simple words (like a Spartan).

    If you are a man and see porn, you will eventualy (hours, days or weeks) start feeling sexual inclinations to other men (strong men).
    Bear in mind, though, that the act of masturbation will also promote this situation by the very fact that fap decreases your testosterone and increase your estrogen levels.
    But let us examine only the influence of porn.

    When you see porn you establish a connection between your genitals, your eyes and the images on the screen. You connect porn images to visual stimulation and to sexual stimulation.
    So, whatever appears on the screen while you are in that state of excitation will be temporally engraved in that connection. So, when you happen to see that image again you will feel to some degree that sexual excitation.

    So, whenever you see porn in which a man and a woman have sex, you are connecting to the sexual sensation not only the images of the woman but also of the man (his pennis, his defined muscles, etc). Afterwards, whenever you see the torso of a nude man, you will feel what a woman should feel in that case.

    The same goes when you see scenes protagonized by actress that, although having more than 18 years, have (surely because an hormonal problem) a body of a teenager. What effects do you think this will have?
     
  2. John1964

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    That is so true. I'm in same situation. Need to get over the visual stimulation which is hard to overcome.
     
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  3. Eviledging

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    This is true but is not just centered on homosexuality. I have come to believe that whatever we pleasure ourselves to in excess will eventually become part of the obsessive habit. I have been into extreme content at the peak of my addictions but having given up those obsessions for various reasons I have found them unappealing and unwanted
     
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  4. Ready to be healthy

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    I never see gay guys saying it gives them inclinations to women....
     
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  5. jest

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    I have seen many gay people on here saying that their tastes escalated into straight porn, and that it bothered them.

    EDIT: Anyway, not sure how it works on your people, since maybe our brains work differently.
     
  6. SpartanViking

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    Thanks for your appreciation, @John1964. It is hard to overcome, but the good thing is that, when you stop seeing porn, all the visual connections gradually fade out and you come back to normal.
    For me, the only normal visual stimulation a human male is intended to receive in order to get physically excited is the image of a human female that has the charecteristics of a fertile human female. For example: hair, breats, waist and hips (and the relation between breast and waist and between waist and hips), the colour of his skin, the colour of his lips (they become more red when she is in the fertile days of the month), etc. Apart from these, there are also the characterisics that come to us from other senses (like the odor, etc).
     
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  7. SpartanViking

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    I am sure most men will not agree with the idea I stated above neither: that seeing a porn scene between a woman and a man will make them develop sexual inclinations to other men.

    It is a great debate, but I think it escapes from my knowledge. The idea that I wanted to suggest with my post is that if a man that has the instincts of a male member of the homo sapiens sapiens species starts to see porn he will eventually began to develop inclinations to other men and (perhaps) will began to identify himself with that inclinations and develop a self-image accordingly.

    Explaining the same thing using labels (which I don't like, I prefer whole definitions), we can say that seeing porn can led a man to become "gay". But, obviously, porn is not the reason why all those who identifies themselves with the word "gay" feel sexual inclinations towards other men.
    So, analizing what effects porn-between-a-man-and-woman has in persons-that-identifies-themselves-with-the-word-gay is very difficult. One effect I do know is this: it will not help them to become men-that-have-the-instincts-of-a-male-member-of-the-homo-sapiens-sapiens-species.

    PD: Sorry for the long paraphrases, but I think it helps to be more objective. In the English language there are too many words with too many meanings, and different people usually understand them with even more different meanings.
     
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  8. John1964

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    Nowadays there are to many sexual stimulations that get in the way of normal stimulation. Aside from porn we see it everyday life such in movies, advertising etc.. We get drawn into the attention of a good looking female or male.
     
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  9. Aiyoshi

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    The only problem with this is... seeing blood or too violent stuff does the reverse to me.

    I do agree on the male-to-male attraction part, to an extent, the problem is that:
    1. This can happens to anything.
    2. There are things that will always feel wrong and disgusting in our eyes.
     
  10. hmm never thought or new that. makes sense. I believe it.
     
  11. victorious136

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    Hey guys,

    I think this is a great topic and really interesting one. I personally think that there's definitely some way how I'm inflicted by watching porn in terms of other man. I think that by watching it I accepted the more passive role in my relationships toward another man. I became more submissive and I also thought that sex is a thing that other men are allowed to do, but not me.
     
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  12. Addicted for 8 years.

    Never graduated past vanilla. (Straight)
    The worst it ever got was interracial. At that point I knew I was getting cucked. (Straight)
     
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  14. TrevorLuciferus

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    i am the heaviest porn abuser of all times i bet. I can´t stop it to save my life. I developed auto imune disorders, been hospitalized many times, forced to take morphine medicines to ease my pain ( and it doesnt work so well ) and never felt attracted by men.
     
  15. When we experience orgasm with another, real or on screen, we bond with them. Hormones released at orgasm are designed for bonding. Seeing a couple on the screen having sex and orgasming in front of that will start to build a bond to both the woman and the man. Then the cycle begins.
     
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  16. It's called desensitisation, we form new neural pathways in the brain when we associate actions with behaviour or vice versa which then become ingrained as part of our arousal template. Because we have neural plasticity (meaning the brain is constantly changing and developling new associations) it can cause lots of unwanted effects such as the ones you described and ones which i have been through. On the other hand, because of neural plasticity, we can change those behaviours too by abstinence and learning different coping mechanisms. Much of the decisions we make on a daily basis are rooted in our subconscious mind meaning we don't always think rationally or logically about each decision we make, so the key is to put the right kind of information in through practice and repetition so as to train the subconscious mind. Things like the ANS (Autonimous Nervous System) and Limbic Region of our brains, including the Amygdala are responsible for recollecting emotions and controling our impulses, many of them fight or flight ones which are necessary for survival and the pre frontal cortex is responsible for our logical and rational thought process. One of the big problems with porn is that we can learn unwanted behaviours which the subconcious parts of our thoughts believe is necessary for survival, hence we seek those things out. I know it took me quite some time before I could view content that had both men and women in, and then it took me longer to get to the point where I viewed extreme content. There is an element of hunter gatherer mentality, in the old days when we were hunters and gatherers it was necessary to have cravings for food or women and go to extreme lengths to get those things because they were not in such abundance as they are now. Porn these days is like being a kid in a candy store with the doors shut and nobody else to contend with you and your insatiable hunger. It basically allows the mind to go into overdrive. I don't believe that the content people view is a true reflection of their sexuality since many of peoples quirks and fetishes and tastes develop over time through different degrees of exposure. I don't believe that many of us were simply born with an obsession for feet or an obsession with shiny clothes etc or whatever floats your boat, these things are developed and learned behaviours in my opinion.
     
  17. SpartanViking

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    Great information, @thorswrath32. You have added a lot of supporting knowledge to the topic. I'm going to develop some of your ideas.
    In psychology, desensitization (or desensitisation) is defined as the diminished emotional responsiveness to a negative, aversive or positive stimulus after repeated exposure to it. It also occurs when an emotional response is repeatedly evoked in situations in which the action tendency that is associated with the emotion proves irrelevant or unnecessary. [Source: Wikipedia]
    There is no bottom limit to the process of dehumanization.
    What do you mean by that?
    We can say that their sexuality is a reflection of the content people view.
    The only thing nature "wants" us to obses with is with beatiful, healthy and young (hence fertile) women who have a good breast to waist ratio, waist to hips ratio, strong and long hair, feminine smell, feminine vigour, etc.
    The rest is only the result of our species becoming a domestic bunch of denaturalized weaklings.
     
  18. Themadfapper

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    Apples Oranges? It's not all about the homosexuals. If you don't see sexual attraction to another man as a negative for you why even comment on the thread? Doesn't seem like it applies to you.

    A lot of porn is closes ups of a dick going in a vagina. It often focuses more on the guy's genitalia than the woman's. I've only seen a small amount of vanilla porn as it's never been my thing, but what I've seen is mostly balls and dicks, lol. I can certainly see how constantly sexually stimulating one's self to that could have a negative impact on someone.


    Also. You must be new here. As another poster already said there have been a ton of gay guys on this forum claiming that very thing that it gave them inclinations toward women.
     
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  19. SpartanViking

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    How right you are, @Themadfapper. That is primarily what porn is. Even if they wanted to stimulate their public with vagina, it is not possible because vaginas are not susceptible of being visually stimulating; the vagina is an internal organ that you must feel, not see.
    If one has the luck to not develope an inclination toward dicks (or at least a compulsibe obsession about that issue) he will become unable to have sex properly. You need to see yourself penetrating the woman ir order to do it; you are unable to feel her.

    PD: Sex is a reproductive act, it should not be done unless the woman is in the fertile time of the month.
     

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