Pornography as yet another form of mind control (an interesting perspective)

Pornography as a weapon of mass distraction...

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened." ~Winston Churchill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEExIhmv_Ow&feature=youtube_gdata_player

"None are more hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." ~ Goethe

 

Very poignant. All adds up

 

Yes me too, but the REAL irony of of it for me is that Winston Churchill was far from being the 'great' Brit the PR machine makes him out to be. For instance I work in social care in the UK and it was largely due to his belief that people with disabilities were "feeble minded" that they were rounded up (ruthlessly!) and shoved into terribly run 'institutions' out in the countryside (out of sight out of mind!) I once met a woman and her daughter who had lived in the same 'hospital' or 50 years, on different wards and didn't know each other and the ONLY reason the mother had been institutionalized was because she was pregnant out of so called 'wedlock'!!! And so the daughter had spent ALL of her life in a so called 'mental' hospital because her mum wasnt married!! And these places didn't start closing until 1996! And that's just the tip of the ice berg with old Winston, and one of several 'truths' he and his type would rather we picked ourselves up and hurried off from!

Sorry, that was nothing personal, it is a great quote, I just saw the red mist when I spotted old Winston above!!

 

Many thanks for your comments. Very thought provoking.

I (and many others) have no doubt whatsoever that there is indeed a covert worldwide conspiracy. Modus operandi? Centralised power/one world government? Literally a fascist global state? The reason? Power and control? (Isn't it always power and control?) Literally a truly psychopathic/right wing and extremely efficient/organised mind-set seeking complete control? And I am FAR from alone in this belief (I would go as far as to call it 'knowledge') I'm not sure what 'liberals' who support a kind of 'anything goes' freedom of expression would suggest replaces moral order? That's a really good question(and I'm sorry, I understand English isn't your first language so I hope I am interpreting your comments correctly?)

Again, I really hope I interpret you correctly but I think the second interpretation could well be a consequence/'convenient' side effect of the first but not as a side effect of democracy as I genuinely believe 'democracy' is an elaborate and highly manipulated 'illusion' designed to distract the masses from the reality of the first interpretation. And I don't believe the degeneration of 'values' etc is anything but a deliberate strategy to dumb down the massess (why else would there be such a push to get 'sodium' fluoride in our drinking water? The push for GM foods? And how on Earth would somebody like George W Bush get elected in a 'real' election/democracy etc etc?) The global 'elite' will stop at nothing with their weapons of mass 'distraction' (and destruction) and as most people do not want the responsibility of true freedom (we vote in a 'democratic' and honest election, those with the majority win, and THEY think on our behalf and we are 'free' to do precisely as we are TOLD...just don't take away our televisions etc because THAT would really piss us off!!) and they literally hand their 'power' on a plate to these 'NWO/Freemason/Bildberberg/Illuminati bunch of freaks'.

Unfortunately Erich Fromm, when he wrote 'Escape from Freedom' (sometimes known as the Fear of Freedom) clearly identified the herd like mentality that has both been manipulated into existence and which 'polices' itself into even further submission by refusing to question (and ridiculing those who do) and hold accountable those in 'authority' to make decisions that have the publics genuine interest at heart, thereby surrendering ('escaping from' as a consequence of their manipulated 'fear' of responsibility) 'true' freedom? As John Lennon said, "Keep you doped with religion, sex, and TV. And you think your so clever, and classless, and free. But your still fucking peasants as far as I can see." But increasing numbers are waking up and, typical of the psychopath mindset, those seeking to control have totally underestimated the power of human spirit/collective mind etc.

With so many 'red herrings', and taking into account the complexity of the whole scenario etc, it may well be difficult to say anything with any kind of 'certainty' but would (to me at least) be particularly 'blinded'/short sighted (literally 'brainwashed') not to be able to see/recognise a common theme in the way the masses are being manipulated/steered towards total subjugation to a particularly well organised and ruthlessly sinister global elite (and it is precisely the discomfort and utter dis-belief induced by such a statement that is it's greatest 'protection', as the likes of Hitler knew/know all too well.) So yes, pornography (and masturbation), mindless television, state 'approved' education/science/news etc, GM 'foods', drugs, cigarettes & alcohol (that old concoction of a 'stick of smokescreen' and a 'glass of illusion', the favourite 'cocktail' of the masses!), sodium fluoride, refined sugar/flour, computer games etc etc- are all overused (being rammed down our throats!) thus weakening our bodies, minds, wits, killing 'motivation and passion' (in an on-going onslaught designed to reduce us into passive/sheep like fodder) and absolutely, whether people believe in any of the above or not, we need to wake up to this (at least) NOW and I believe/hope movements like this very forum are playing a significant part in that (which to be honest is why I posted this thread)

Just opinions?

 

I came across this video and didn't know whether to put in in this thread or the humour thread?!?! NOT because its ridiculous but because if the effects this stuff were having on all our lives weren't so tragic it would be funny! Yes some, if not all, of the 'messages' in this video are subtle but that's all they have to be to work on our ultra absorbant subconscious minds (and of course all this is just the very tip of the tip of the ice-berg and I don't wish to get off-topic bearing in mind the nature of this site)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijYR7YqBVwI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

Hi Eckhangel, thanks for your reply. Tis certainly a vast and complicated subject that is indeed difficult to discuss in this context. Unfortunately I have only been able to scan your post quickly as I have a fair few family commitments today and in the coming days so, much as I would like to, I cannot commit the considerable time it would take to address/discuss all the excellent points you raised. I will get back to you soon though but for now may I just wish you all the very best for 2014

 

Thank you, I only wish there was time now because I am intrigued by your post and I'm only sorry there is the slight language barrier (and am sorry if I misinterpreted any of your points, which may or not be due to language?) and that this type of communication is so hopelessly inadequate when discussing something as complex/detailed as this. I suspect that even with several days of face to face conversation any 'answers' could just keep yielding more and more questions?!?! But there is nothing quite like having 'beliefs' challenged etc to help you review and clarify where we stand on certain issues! Tis a pity more people are not willing to face such scrutiny (And I bet that author was wondering what hit him when you had him 'pinned against the wall' and I too would have been disappointed with his replies). Anyway I'm in danger of going on and I have children to get ready etc All the best

 

Sorry if I whizz through this but tired and just grabbed a few mins...

Firstly I appreciate the manner in which you present yourself as somebody with a genuine thirst for truth/knowledge which is something I can genuinely empathise with so please forgive me if I come across as anything other than respectful/humble as my only intention is to ascertain/establish the 'truth' (is that even possible in this context?) in perhaps one of the most 'debatable' topic on the planet(I also had to severely edit your quotes as only allowed 10000 characters)

Its understandable that both sides of this argument see each other as either 'ignorant' or 'paranoiac' depending on an individuals stance (wittingly or otherwise?) and in the 20 years I have been curious about these subjects, knowing something was 'wrong' and attempting to understand both the the problem, the source, AND the solution whilst trying to make ends meet as an individual who finds it particularly difficult to adjust to the so called 'norms' society (or those who 'control' society) impose upon us. I'm not even a John Lennon fan particularly so I'm reluctant to quote him again but this also struck a chord with me from the moment I heard it as a child, "They hurt you at home and they hit you at school. And they hate you if your clever and dispise a fool. Til your so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules." And who 'they' are (NWO etc or capitalist society in general - or 'both' which I think is what makes sense to me) But I guess we just have to come to our own conclusions on this in whatever way our circumstance (position, scale, mental capacity, time constraints etc) permit?

Well yes, I guess that's the $64,000 question. It would be very difficult to provide names of entities as they work behind the 'puppet' politicians. All I can do is point you in the direction of some of the people who's research I have respected over the years. NO I do NOT follow any of these people as one would follow a guru (Im not particularly interesred in them as individuals, i just respect their right to suggest possible answers to the type of questions we are discussing) and I do not necessarily believe everything they claim is true (as they are simply attempting to put forth information that helps people make an 'informed' choice and the minute I suspect anyone is doing anything other than that I switch off so to speak). I simply respect the right of individuals to put forth information that the mainstream media (whether it is run by greedy capitalist and/or global fascists?) refuse to give 'respectful' air time to. I am also aware that the mere mention of some of these names could incite instant dismissal? And I do not know where you stand on matters of a metaphysical nature (and neither is that any of my business) Having said all that D) here's some links to make of what you will (and of course there will be massive amounts of debunking of these people out there but please rest assured that I, like yourself am simply trying to make sense out of it all and am actually glad of this opportunity to review my thoughts etc)...

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/about

http://www.davidicke.com/

http://www.greggbraden.com/

www.brucelipton.com/‎

http://www.infowars.com/

It would take several hours and hundreds of pages to provide the background evidence of synchronized efforts to seize total power but I do believe the above authors have compiled a very compelling body of evidence between them from both a physical and metaphysical perspectives which I believe are absolutely necessary to understand the bigger (holistic)picture etc?

Yes you can 'currently' set up a TV station (see above), website etc but how utterly ironic is this ... http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/uk-internet-porn-censor-to-also-block.html?m=1

I would like to see somebody become president who wasn't already chosen long before the elections even began(theres lots of info on this, this is just a random article)http://kentroversypapers.blogspot.co.uk/2007/10/anyone-can-become-president-cheney-and.html

Yes you can, but are people like me 'free' to express an interest in the research of people like those I have mentioned above etc etc without being subject to laughter and ridicule. That has NOT been my experience this past 20 years. What kind of 'freedom' is that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mssKE_b48k

"Go back to bed America, your Government has got it all figured out..." http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3249.htm

again, these are just examples, tip of iceberg and you will have to do your own research and you are 'free' to disagree with anything or anything I suggest (and I am genuinely grateful of this dialogue between us for giving me the opportunity to review how I deal with these type of discussions)

Have you tried any of the above? I mean I have suggested David Ickes books to several people over the years who have laughed out loud (as I did when it was first suggested to me!!) and I remember one (very bright astute guy) who read one and he told me his friend had ridiculed him saying 'at what point did you realise he is a totally insane paranoid schitzophrenic?" to which he replied, "at no point whatsoever, which really shocked me after what I had heard about him in the media, but the general theme made perfect sense and explained many things that I had previously found utterly confusing etc". And I have witnessed this many times this past 20 years, and I am not part of a cult or hanging on the every word of ANYBODY:-D

I suggest there are a lot of confused people out there with good intentions (and I am one of them) but caught up in the massive web of deceit (whatever it's source?) but I certainly do not believe the leaders/controllers of the Catholic Church are trying to awaken anybody to anything other than its own (interconnected?) brand of psychological fascism? (and I was a Catholic) People don't get 'assassinated' with bullets these days, that would be too obvious when 'character' assassination is FAR more effective and easily swallowed/enjoyed by the masses.

In a universe of infinite possibility nothing is beyond the realm of possibility?(and its our sense of what is possible that is manipulated the most?)

Yes there needs to be more talk of alternative political systems but I honestly don't know the answer to that one because the whole thing just seems so completely corrupted and wealthy/powerful. I wish I had an answer, I really do. This is a current/vital interest for sure.

I have long supported the 'none of the above' campaign in Britain and refuse to vote unless we have the option to tick a box that states 'none of the above' candidates out of utter distrust in the current system. Of course were this to be introduced the vast majority of people will start voting again and would probably tick that box thus forcing complete political reform as the majority would have called for it. But of course we are no closer to this genuinely 'democratic' step for obvious reasons and so some people continue to vote in the belief their vote will make a difference (and in Britain we are brainwashed into believing that if we don't vote we don't have a say which is rammed down our throats via TV advertising etc)

I respect your views and your right to have them and I am always willing to change mine if I find I have been holding beliefs not based in 'truth' (which is increasingly difficult to discern!;-))

 

Done mate

 

Yes it is mate and after 20 years of being aware of this sort of stuff it still amazes me how glibly people go into automatic dismissal/ridicule mode when considering (or not as is usually the case) this type of thing, it really does. But I guess thats its biggest strength, that most people would rather believe an elaborate lie than face the consequences of knowing the truth. That has certainly been my experience and as goethe once observed, 'none are so hoplessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free." and the level of rationalization and sheer cognitive dissonance I witness (especially post 911, the most blatant inside job and insulting 'cover story' ever!) is simply staggering!

 

I know, like he hadn't already been dead for years, and like he even 'did' 911 in the first place!!