Many Fapstronauts are Rebooting Incorrectly

I totally agree with you.

I, as a beginner, somehow misunderstood the process of rebooting by even inconsciously watching nsfw posts on 9Gag (I didn't watch any porn though). I thought it would be sufficient to abstain from M and/or Edging to win this challenge. But I was all wrong. So, from today, I'm starting a new journey. A journey without any porn, any nsfw post, any deviation, any digital and pixelized woman on my screen.

Hopefully, if all goes right, I will be at 30 days of Hardmode on Christmas. Who wants, join me !

 

I don't think these are rules, I think these are logical facts. If you slipped it's not a very big deal no. But of you reboot but intentionally sneek peak or watch "heartbeating" photos, yeah you are doing wrong.

Rebooting is to get you unchained from lust and start loving again. If you objectify woman, look at twerking videos or sexual photos yeah you are not rebooting at all. Once you reboot correctly (no woman objectifying in any way possible) you will be free from lust addiction after time and start being loveable and have love in your heart again. There is a very very big difference between lust and love. They are both the most powerful energies that exists in the world but love is soooo much more and stronger then lust. Lust is bullshit. I rather have a loyal and cool chick with 7/10 looks then a 10/10 sexy porn chick. Fuck porn, fuck lust just fuck that. Love should be goal and all the benefits follow.

 

have you gone 120 days with out masturbation? how did you do it. what's the number one tip.

 

You misinterpreted my statements, I simply don't like the way you put down a fellow nofapper for the tiniest little slip-up that in my personal opinion, only creates a minor setback that should be seen as a learning experience. I actually agree with these rules that you have posted and I have been following them very strictly myself, but not everybody is the same here, and can't be treated as such. If rebooting only takes 150 days, then great, I was expecting it to take longer.

 

Source(s)? Good thread - and I agree with your points - we just may have to agree to disagree on this one. I was under the impression that one or two relapses aren't detrimental.

edit: granted, I can't provide a source for my line of thinking, either.

 

it takes aa few years. for 99%

 

u miss the point,

 

Interesting .

 

I can't stress enough that "just looking" is NO GOOD. I have relapsed and probably close to square one again. But it's okay, I am not giving up. Yes, even "further investigating" at that hot actress/singer is a TRIGGER. Just...don't..do it. I will follow my own advice and have 30 days on Christmas Day. Hold me to it my friends!!! Happy Thanksgiving!

 

You just got to be more hard on yourself.

 

The problem is that some guys are trying to find and easier way to do this.

There isn't an easier way.

A peek at porn or p-subs will give a dopamine shot and relieve some of the tension.

That will still keep the guy in PMO, and this will seem easy only because he is making no effort to get out of this.

Masturbating during a reboot, in my opinion, is also "an easier way" that will not work.

Pornography is part of our problem, and masturbating only releases the desire to use it.

By masturbating, one will never be challenged to resist porn and find a healthy way of handling excess sexual energy.

Masturbation is basically just a substitute for pornography.

Both, for us, are parts of the same problem.

@RebootGalaxy testifies to the benefits of PM-Mode, and even in what he says, it does not appear as though the benefits develop as much when one just masturbates.

(I would, in all kindness, ask @RebootGalaxy to take a minute and look at his own behavior, and compare that to what he is saying about others.)

(Please understand that, although I disagree with some points here, this is all in the spirit of support.)

The energy for "superpowers" is blown just as much in masturbation without porn.

Taking these easier ways is only a trick we play to make us think we are rebooting, when we really are not.

NoFap must be 100%

There are a lot of sexy images all over the internet, and we must learn to recognize those as triggers as well.

@BruceD is absolutely right about the danger of "further investigating" that hot actress or singer.

I caught myself falling into that trap a few weeks ago when I was "researching" the career of an actress in a popular series of commercials.

The pictures I saw of her were not pornographic, although some were rather sexy.

My surfing behavior was exactly the same as it was when I surfed porn

This gave me a similar, but much weaker, dopamine rush.

I was only fooling myself to think that I was doing something perfectly innocent.

This might have been counted as a relapse, but technically, it was not.

The problem was that I allowed myself to get too close to the edge of the porn world. There was a very short step into it, and for that time, I was at grave risk of relapse.

Many fapstronauts do relapse, as I have, and they should not be condemned for this.

Rebooting is a process of learning, as @ThisGuy! says, and in relapses and near-relapses, like mine described above, we learn to avoid these in the future.

This does indeed take a long time, and even when we fail, all of the gains from our periods of success are not lost.

One relapse will deplete only a small fraction of what we gained in a streak of success.

The recovery will be faster because most of our "superpowers" will remain, and we will be stronger for the next longer time of success in rebooting.

That is, of course, only if one is willing to try again 100%.

 

This is my problem, people will try and cheat but they know deep i side its dumb and it hurts them and they try and make an excuse to make it easier. But for me i really care about my future and my life so i do the opposite of that

 

So i feel guilty as shit when i mess up or see p sub or something

 

I think just a slip is not bad. But it depends on the situation. If you slip a lot, if you slipped on purpose etc. You should go for it and if you slipped, get yourself together and go on. But if you slip some more it will turn into a relapse. And a relapse is basicly back at the bottom.

People look for the answer, like I did myself. The thing is, there is no answer. Going outside when a craving comes etc. Wont help you. Or other trucks to run away from your cravings. You should face your cravings and resist it, only this will makes you stronger which will make it easier.

If you want to go to heaven you need to go through hell first. Handle the cravings and you will win the battle.

Know what kind of pain is coming when you quit and accept the pain that is coming when you quit. And I garantee, you will win this war!

 

Well said, actually everyone here. Getting away form the computer may be a great idea at first to gain some stamina, but yes you need to live your life as normal as possible. We are going to see striking looking women and have to use our computers at times. It's best we deal with "life" now.

Just a "peek" or as I call it "further investigating" an attractive celebrity may not be a relapse itself but CAN LEAD to one. Like alcohol perhaps being a
gateway drug for some folks. Great stuff folks. Thanks for letting me serve and post.

 

How? OP said a relapse can sometimes double the healing process. I don't agree with that statement.