RIP Hugh Hefner

I never told anyone to shut up.

 

Fair and fair, I guess. I'm gonna quietly slip away and leave you guys to it, then. As you were.

 

This is all eminently sensible stuff. It's all logical, but consider that there are different logics. A certain logic starts with a set of presuppositions, and rises from them. And certainty will appear within that logic, but peer outside it for one second, and it starts to look arbitrary and contingent. From this critical perspective, a logic can also look like a fashion or a mode of thinking that the majority follows [or a sophistry, something you follow to get on in the world]. It can become a mass ideology that a person will believe simply because the mass of people do. It can become the exact opposite, in real terms, of what it advocates in abstract terms i.e.; freedom. It can eventually take on the proportions of anachronism, where we read the Other of the past in terms of our own present.

So today it's like we are pre-programmed to think of power in terms of politics, and the ideal of politics is supposed to be found in equality. As you mention:

But if you look through history, all the way through to the dawn of time, men have held the cards. The social norm for centuries has been 'men gather, women nurture' or 'men work, women raise the kids'
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So our present day seems to be the odd one out. Either we read history as a process of ongoing unquestionable progress, or we see the present as an idiosyncracy. Personally, I'm inclined to the latter. Today, ideology has effectively replaced culture - where once there were an order of values, beliefs, and duties, now we have a homogenous mass of individuals [a public] congealed around a fragile idea of freedom. Where power was once perceived in terms of culture, imagination, art and religion, it is now conceived by the rational [ideological] individual. Because power has become politicized, it has become inconceivable, to our revolutionary minds, that power, authority, hierarchy, heteronomy could be legitimate. Most of our ills today are rooted in this original rebellion from a cosmic order in the world. Consider Rousseau's, 'man was born free, but everywhere he is in chains'. This is nonsense if you consider there may be a 'Great Chain of Being' in which we are to participate by virtue of being social animals.... and human beings.

I had an esteemed professor of history tell me the other day that feminism 'de-politicized sex'. I replied that I thought the exact opposite.

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The NY Times has a brilliant editorial on this miserable human being.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/30/opinion/hugh-hefner.html

Some people here have said things along the line of "he is not to be blamed for your porn addiction, it is like an obese person blaming a doughnut for his obesity". Taking that as an example, Hefner was not the jelly doughnut, was [your favorite donut brand here] bombarding you through advertising 24/7 on how good donuts were and that you would never be happy if you did not eat as many donuts as you could. So, yes, hes is to be blamed.

Hugh Hefner was a miserable narcissist who got rich on destroying countless young souls through the systematic delivery of naked women, initially through photography, later through every possible graphic communication media. Unsatisfied with his destruction of the societal structure of the post-war USA, he continued spreading his putrid mindset through advocacy for abortion, sodomitical unions, and legalization of drugs.

A man who treated women like thrash both in and outside his premises. Women at the Playboy mansion were subject to a repressive code of conduct that was far worse than the puritanism he said to oppose. Women living in the Playboy mansion were forbidden from leaving the house after 9 pm, could not held a single conversation with the personnel working in the house. But hey, puritanism is bad!

I have absolutely no issues blaming my addiction to pornography on this miserable. And the reason for this is that he fueled an industry that left children of 13 years of age exposed to material they could not even understand why it was immoral. Yes, he is responsible for my addiction to porn: I started watching pornography at the age of 13, long before I had sufficient use of reason to make a voluntary choice that made me fully accountable for my addiction.

Don't get me wrong, at a certain point I came to realize that I had to do something with pornography before it led me to total ruin. And yes, I did something and succeeded with the help of Our Lord and the Holy Virgin Mary. I acknowledge that I was not impotent in the face of this disgusting thing. HOWEVER, had Hugh Hefner not founded Playboy, I would have stood a better chance and probably have led a less immoral life.

May God have taken pity on this human being, if he is not entering heaven he will consigned to one of the lowest circles of hell: the bad counselors.

PS: and the worst sin of Hugh Hefner was not having sex with a thousand women (so he said). As evil as that is, it is nothing compared to his paramount contribution to the inversion of the moral order and his involvement in the promotion of both the homosexual and death culture.

Let's finish by saying that this scoundrel confessed in one interview that he was homosexual:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4566642/hugh-hefner-sex-men-gay-rights-sexual-revolution/

 

I miss Son of a Bitch. I wonder how he’s doing. I hope he’s living a happy, fulfilling, porn free life.

That mother fucker.

 

not a great guy

 

I don't care really.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. Saying that "Playboy is degrading to women" implies that all women feel degraded by being viewed as sex objects. And that is simply untrue. That would be the same as saying "BDSM clubs are degrading to people" because being hurt and humiliated is degrading. Well obviously not all people feel that way. Obviously owners of such clubs can't be blamed for people freely seeking outlets for their unhealthy needs. There are plenty of women (and men for that matter) with narcissistic and/or exhibitionistic tendencies who enjoy attention and appreciation that is focused on their physical and sexual value. Plenty of people have casual sex and make themselves (and their sexual partners) into sexual objects that way, still I don't condemn casual sex as being inherently bad if some people get enjoyment out of it.

I don't know what kind of person Hugh Hefner was and I don't care. But blaming Hugh Hefner for women's own free choices (given that they were their own free choices) is unfair and takes away responsibility from and victimizes the women who desire such lifestyle because they enjoy it.

 

You're right. You also would have stood a better chance if PornHub had never been created. Or Penthouse. Or Hustler. Or the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition. You would have stood a better chance if the adults in your life who had Playboy magazine kept them out of the reach and view of your impressionable young mind. You would have stood a better chance if someone had explained to you the dangers of pornography beforehand.

There are many variables outside of your control that played a role in your porn addiction. But as long as you blame others for your problems, you'll never get better. We all are accountable for our own decisions. No one else is responsible for the decisions you make for yourself.

 

Hefner was, the Eichmann, foreman, of modern day Women's Rights.
That would make Flint, the Hitler, foreman, of modern day Women's Rights..

 

But we are not responsible for normalising porn in everyday culture, Hefner is (at least in part) and no matter how he tried to dress that up as 'liberation', 'freedom', 'love', or 'fun' it was greed and hatred that motivated him (IMNSHO)

 

What

 

Sorry, I'm late to this thread, perhaps I'm missing where we've ended up.

 

He is partly responsible for the degeneracy of the West and for normalizing pornography, destroying morals and famiiles, so the world lost nothing of value.

 

Nobody ever dressed Eichmann up as liberation.

 

I just wanted to say that I love everything about this post. Hold high the flag against chronological snobbery!
I'm outta here again, don't want to get into any vicious arguments, see y'all.