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How can I recover from porn addiction

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Aelk, Aug 22, 2018.

  1. Aelk

    Aelk New Fapstronaut

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    I have recently heard about nofap and I am still not familiar with the website.
    I have a pron addiction and I can’t stop, I have been watching for a couple of years now and no matter how much I try to stop it seems impossible to me. However as someone who doesn’t lose hope like me I refuse to settle for this and would kindly like to recieve help so that I can stop. I will be waiting for your replies :)
     
  2. Welcome. You will need to fill that time that was given to porn. It is usually better if you can spend less time alone with a screen in front of you.
    Read here, learn and ask questions. Make a solid plan and an emergency plan.
    We are all fighting by your side. Lean on us.
     
  3. Bonhomme

    Bonhomme Fapstronaut

    Congrats on realizing you have a problem, man. That's a first step fighting any problematic habits in your life!


    Try asking yourself why you can't stop, or "Why do I need/want to watch it now?".
    Facing the urge is a way for you to understand why you resort to it, it could be loneliness, restlessness, frustration, anxiety or plain boredom for example - not just arousal (usually isn't "natural" arousal if you've got a problem).

    Understanding this might help you figure out ways to tackle the urge to watch.

    If it's because you're bored or restless you might need to find other ways to activate or distract yourself.
    If it's loneliness you might have to engage socially (if you're able).
    If it's anxiety you might need help facing other aspects of your mental life (I'm in counselling myself)


    (These are just examples!)


    Good of you to share, man. Wish you the best.
     
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  4. sndp

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    Man You have to fight. but the problem is not knowing the right way of fighting. that is good you know that you are in problem and you have to come out of it. every one love porn becuase we think it a source of enjoyment and but that is short term. you have to replace it with the source of enjoyment any thing with long term like reading ,studying, playing etc. now the problem is your mind compare the short term enjoyment things with the long term enjoyment things. and say this time short peroid enjoyment and long term enjoyment from tomorrow. you say ok. and lose the battle , then repentance and then take a oath not to do this again. and same story happens again. why it happens again and again. why long term enjoyments can not win over short term enjoyments. resaons is your oath. ya thats right. actually the evil is in your mind. and every time you take an oath, the evil get stronger. yes , as you take an oath you remember the evil, and it gets stronger. Right way is ignore the evil. it will go weaken moment by moment. as you feel the lust of porn just change your mood on some positve things. keep these positive things already in your mind and as evil try to persuade you to the porn, recall these positive things. remember the logic of defeating the evil, you have not to think about it neither positve or negative. as much as you ignore it, that much it will go on weaker. you have not to take a oath about it. acutally you have not to think about it in anyway or form. keep a triger point like remembering a god or talking to your firined or reading a good novel etc. as the lust arouse in your mind just triger that point of good activities. hope this method will help you.
     
  5. slink123456

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    It is definitely possible. Quit now, and turn your life around. Life is a precious gift that deserves so much more attention and care than porn. Find something better to do with your time, that is also real life. Get out and keep busy, go and try some running, or do something else productive that’s not by a screen. Your future self will be so grateful for it, trust me. Be the person you want to be, and be strong and overcome the addiction. Good luck!
     
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  6. SensualLettuce

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    Welcome dude. Through enough relapses, what I started to do is evaluate what I was doing that motivated me to feed into the habit. It ultimately turned out to be boredom, poor productivity and loneliness were the primary culprits. Remaining idle can make things more difficult than need be and taking positive action with activities that reward you with positive feelings can go a long way. For example, taking it upon myself to be personally accountable (e.g using tech in public, locking up devices if need be), getting into fitness and dieting, visiting this site to chat about where I am, reading up on success stories and authentic research (I say authentic because their is a tonne of false opinions and research that tries to disprove Porn addiction. Don't listen to them) looking for an accountability partner among a host of other positive decisions helped me get to the 80 days that I'm at. It's one hell of a rollercoaster and the brain may not heal/rewire at the pace you would like, but It will just as long as you stay sober and don't reinforce the habit. It can seem really difficult at times and It can seem as if "I can't get over Porn". I was in that head-space for a few days, but trust me you can get passed this.
     
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  7. Aelk

    Aelk New Fapstronaut

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    Thank you very much I really appreciate your help
     
  8. Uncomfortably Numb

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    Welcome... you have acknowledged your addiction and are now in the right place to be helped.
    Unfortunately there is no quick fix and it can be a very long and arduous journey for many.
    Utilise the site and all its tools and advice and we (your fellow recovering addicts) will be here to support you.
     
  9. Mitness

    Mitness Fapstronaut

    Hi, i'm am no one special. Just a guy who suffered from addiction for 21 years and helping others. I write this to a lot of people who are starting to work on their recovery, so i hope it will help..


    It's a long LONG post, i hope you'll read it.

    I've been addicted to booze, drugs, sugar, caffeine, pmo, pmo with a lot of amphetamine, instagram, facebook, compliments etc etc. When i stopped using one, i got involved in the other addiction.

    Well, i guess addiction is just a symptom of a deeper problem. It's common for addicts to get addicted to other things when they cut the primal addiction. I guess when you get deeper into why you're addicted it's getting easier to understand.

    So figure out the reasons you're getting addicted! And it’s not because you like it. There's more underneath the simple “I like it.”

    Just, as i wrote, take a deep look in why you are addicted. Because every short-term solution will cause in increase in dopamine and therefore we feel good. We need that shot because we cannot deal with the feeling that we have when we don't get that shot. We cannot deal with negative emotions.. So, you need to know why you are seeking for the artificial stimulation. I see it as an onion.

    The sour onion is nicely stored in the outer skin.

    For the sake of convenience, we call the skin around the onion addiction.

    When you remove the outer skin around the onion, you spontaneously start to cry. It is acidic. It hurts your eyes. So our natural reaction is to do something about that. Because we as humans are, evolutionarily, programmed to find quick solutions, our first reaction is to put that sheet back in place. We masquerade the acid. So we either fall back into our old addiction, or we find, unconsciously, a new addiction.

    So, as I said, When you open the outer layer of the onion, it’s sour, and you will get tears.. Therefore you need to unpeel the onion.

    You have to peel all the onion until you get to the core. Work on that core. Unpack the core. And when you have found the core, unravel the core as well. I've noticed that whenever you get to the core, there's still a core. I have had 6 times that I thought I was at the core, but that there was still an underlying problem. And eventually, when you finally got to the core, you stop crying because there is no onion left anymore!

    It’s also very handy to watch this video 10 times!!



    And it helped me a lot to make a plan. So when i began to stop being addicted i just wanted to stop.. And that's good, but it's freaking hard to maintain focus with only one reason. So i made a plan. Why do i get addicted? What is it in my life that gives me so little joy that i always need to find other ways to get happy. .. So start with the gigantic question... WHY AM I ADDICTED? Do you fully understand why you happen to use all the time? As i wrote i was a full-time addict. Porn, drugs, booze, sugar, caffeine, social media, compliments of other people.. Every short-term solution i used to cope with my problems.. Really, after thinking for so so so long about my addiction i came to the conclusion that my addiction is in every fiber of my life!! And i finally got to a point where i really understand why i'm addicted. Since i fully understand what addiction is and what the mechanisms are behind (my) addiction, it's easier to not give in! For me it started when i was 9 years old. I had many problems in my life.. I was bullied a lot at school. Long story short; me and two friends found some porn magazines and one told me what to do as a boy. In the afternoon i did and BAZINGA, i didn't care about the bullying anymore. At the age of 13 I experienced great youth trauma. And from there it escalated quickly. Years of fapping, drug and alcohol abuse followed till they needed to take me into mental hospital 3 years ago. My main problem was that i have never loved myself. I started to believe it was my own fault that i suffered that trauma, and when i started using drugs i was ashamed etc. At then end i could find only one reason, i used everything just to have a good feeling, find some rest in my head etc. And it was not only substance abuse.. As i wrote, it was in every fiber of my life. Everything was about getting compliments, people telling me i'm a good boy, likes on instagram etc etc...

    So, figure out all the things you need to know about addiction in general and about addiction in relation to you. The Internet is pretty useful for that. And, maybe not the most fun thing to do, get bored a lot! In this modern time, we are always busy with something. From the moment you realize you get bored, you will find a way to deal with that boredom. We have internet, books, SMARTPHONES, people to hang out with. See where i'm going.. Our brain get's stuffed with imput, imput, imput.... We are never empty anymore. Yeah, i know, boredom is not fun, but it's essential for healing the mind and for finding answers on such big questions as for why am i addicted, why do i relapse all the time. So, go on the internet, read stories about other people's experiences and get bored and think.. THINK A LOT. I happened to find it most relaxing to go out for a walk in the forest, do a lot of cardio, read, or just meditated. There are a lot of meditation forms. I like the one i count my breath. And, i like the one where i just think about everything that pops up. Most of the time its about my addiction.

    So you need to make sure that when you want to fully recover from addiction it has to be at the very top of your list... It has to be the most important thing besides food, water, air, and sleep. So when you fully understand what the mechanisms are behind your addiction, then you make a solid plan.. Just getting in to reboot without a plan is the same as beginning an iron man triathlon with no training at all.

    And with a plan i mean a real plan.. So i made a mind map of all the reasons why i don't want to fap and why the hell i want to quit my addiction. I would suggest you make a written paper with 40 reasons why you don't want to fap anymore. I say 40 because 2 to 5 reasons are to short. 40 reasons is a moderately long list so it takes a little time to read. It might take your mind of the urges. I guess we addicts are really good at finding reasons why we should do it.. And therefore we are so damn good at convincing us to give in.. And, not to forget, one of the most important things is healthy food. My recovery would have been absolutely unsuccessful if I had continued to eat unhealthily. In the end, I even had to give up caffeine and sugar and masturbating to porn. We, addicts, are always seeking for the dopamine shot. So in order to recover and re-wire your brain, it's good to quit all short-term solutions. I would suggest joining the dopamine challenge. I've added a link to the dopamine challenge.. haha..
    https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/5crla0/the_dopamine_challenge_are_you_tough_enough/

    Making a plan is so important. Not having a plan is the same as wanting to run the marathon without wanting to train…

    So we really need to change that mindset and make us only see the reasons why we don't want to use anymore..

    It helped and still helps me a lot, when i really have strong urges, to make a mantra of all the reasons why I don’t want to do it. And, as a craving for drugs, alcohol or a porn related thought or image comes up to my mind I count from 1 to 6 and backward and visualizing the numbers. I just count and visualize as long as I need to get rid of the porn images or thoughts. This does two things.. Namely, it get's your mind of the urge when you do it consistently and... it helps your brain make need pathways not related to substance abuse (rewiring). I really noticed that after 3 weeks of consistently doing this, the cravings began to weaken... And afterward, when the cravings are gone, i do full the mantra 6 times.. And if that not helps, and i'm at home, i jump under the ice cold shower. It's such a shock to the body and mind that in 90 percent of the time i cant even think about it haha.. And if even that dont help me, i will go run as long as i need. Last time i needed to run i kept on going for 25 kilometer hahaha.

    So the other things i do to deal with the urges are..

    Hard Solutions, Easy Life - Easy Solutions - Hard Life

    I guess it will be a long, difficult and arduous journey, but it is more than worth it.

    When i started working on my addiction(s) i had absolutely no idea what i was doing. I didn't think it was necessary either. I guess when you read my story you will see it was more than necessary. I'm working on my recovery now for 3,5 years and i still am not where i want to be. I even stopped working now for 4 months to work more on my recovery.

    In the end, I stopped everything. Instagram, facebook, sugar, caffeine, drugs and alcohol. I also try to work on my obsessive urge to get compliments.

    At first, I felt I had to give up everything. I thought it was terrible because I needed it. Now I gradually come to the conclusion that everything I didn't want to give up in order to live just, took my life. Live moderately, be satisfied just in time and happiness comes when you don't expect it because you were not busy with becoming happy but with life.

    Based on my own experience of the past 21 years, I really believe it is a long journey. I did not get addicted just like that. It did not happen in one go. It is a long way from becoming addicted. That is why i cannot expect to be ready just like that, all of a sudden.

    Every time i thought I was there, there's something new to come. (onion: underlying problem) And that's not a bad thing, that's good. Because i want to recover completely. I solemnly believe that recovery must be as important as the oxygen you breathe, the food you eat and the water you drink. You will not be addicted in 1 year. That is something that goes on for years. And probable you will reach this point a couple of times.. The point where everything seems to go fine and then you forget all the agreements that you have made with yourself…

    I have experienced so many times that things were going well again (at least, I thought so) and that I forgot about my own agreements. I forgot about the agreements because it went well again... So I relapsed about 100+ times. Be careful of those moments.

    Now I realize that it is the other way around. Things are going well because of those agreements!

    Do you know what the problem is with mankind as a whole? We, humans, are hunters and collectors based on our past. The part of our brain that is responsible for the feeling of pleasure and of "ah, this is important so I need to have it more often" was about the first part of our brain. That is also logical. Without a sense of pleasure, we would never have been able to evolve. Food is important to live so that's why we feel good after eating. Sex is extremely important for the reproduction of our genes, so this is one of the most intense, natural, dopamine rush. As I said, it is a mechanism that has ensured that we are living at the moment. So by nature we are always busy with feeling good. Only in the past was it a question of a primary good feeling. It wasn't so much about long-term planning. Eating, sleeping, connecting with your group, fleeing danger. These were mainly things for the short term. One of the few things that were planned in the long run was the reproduction of our genes. I'm sure you understand what I mean.

    So, the disadvantage of humanity is that we always go for short-term solutions. Look, for example, at our eating pattern. It is completely illogical to eat 3.4.5.6 times a day. Our body hardly gets time to process it. I eat about 2200 calories once a day. Mainly fat, a little protein and very little carbohydrate. I feel so much better than when I ate 4 times a day

    But, there is good news young man. We can train our brains.

    It took a very long time for me to get through the mechanisms behind addiction. Each time I stopped doing something and then started doing something different. That works for a while until you derail again.

    Each time you fall back into old habits, the paths of the old customs become stronger (look it up: DELTAFOSB). And every time you fall for short-term solutions, the prefrontal cortex becomes weaker. The prefrontal cortex is involved in cognitive and emotional functions such as decision making, planning, social behavior and impulse control. So, as you can see, one thing lifts up the other.

    I can't give you an answer about how you should do it. I can only tell you why things always went wrong with me.

    I didnt put my recovery on top of my list. And, I recovered mainly for others. To get compliments, to hear that they were proud of me. Not because I have no willpower. Or no discipline.

    And, because I always opted for short-term solutions, I found it extremely difficult to make long-term goals.

    Sorry for the long post, but I hope I inspired you to work on your recovery. Ow, and i would suggest with starting with a full hard-mode reboot. That’s the best way for dopamine receptor recovery and for getting it out of your system..

    And do remember to please:

    We don’t give up things in order to recover. We gave up life, in order to be addicted.

    PS. Especially during the time i used amphetamine and pmo I was looking for such perverted things that in the end I believed I was a terrible man. After i quit using drugs it was still extreme and therefore i still believed i was terrible.

    Now, after my first reboot, i am finally starting to get a normal taste again. I don't feel much for the extreme porn anymore.

    I, for instance, watched a lot porn which you can consider far beyond normal for me. Also gay porn. Gay hardcore porn. I even had a lot of sex with guys.. A lot.

    I never considered myself as a gay, but for a long time, i have thought i was bi-sexual. Now, after quitting my addiction, i have a more vanilla tast and i realized i'm straight actually haha.

    So do the complete reboot, get sober and then, after that, you can define what's normal for you!

    If you have any questions, just ask.

    My journal:

    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/21-years-of-addiction-my-fight-my-story.164500/


    PSS.

    The absolute basis for a good life is to think about yourself first. When you learn to really think about yourself, then naturally there will be a lot of room to think about others. We can say that we did not think well of ourselves, which is probably why we have become addicted.

    Now, look around you, how many people live on the autopilot. And how many of those people are really capable of standing up for others. The autopilot of today's world is that we are constantly devoting ourselves to fast, short-term solutions.

    So, be proud of yourself that you stand up for yourself, that you think of yourself and do what is best for you!
     
  10. Well, addiction means we get these pathways in our brain, so all we have to do is starve those pathways which means never doing PMO again.

    How that process goes, there's many routes to take but all of them contain the fact that you shouldn't use P or P-substitutes.
     
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